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Irish Primary schools to teach Polish


OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
17 Jul 2009 /  #151
dtaylor5632

The average monthly wage in Ireland is nearly three grand(35,000 euro per annum). Do you earn 3 grand a month for teaching English? Why are you lying, yet again?

Did I say I support the IRA, no, but without their intervention in 1969/1970 there would be no Irish catholics alive today. Thats a historical fact. You are an ignoramus and a liar, the Polish PM earns 45,000 euro per annum, but of course a language school teacher like you earns more.

As for your comments about me being a loner, meh. Laughable really. I dont come onto web forums to make "friends". You do, evidently. Stop playing to the gallery, be yourself, eventually somebody might like you.

Polskadoll

Just how many paddies live in Poland so?

Oh and I do understand multiculturalism, it is not importing people to live in ghettos just to stick to their own kind and provide cheap labour. Unlike what the Irish and UK media will have you believe.
dtaylor5632  18 | 1998  
17 Jul 2009 /  #152
Do you earn 3 grand a month for teaching English? Why are you lying, yet again?

heh, im dont teach language as a first job ;) I do it as a hobby, cos i enjoy it. I see you like to make debates into comparing dicks ;) I wonder who is the biggest d!ck;)

45,000 euro per annum

crap again.

when did i say i taught english for a living? how much are u making in Spain?

People know what I do here, on forums, and friends. U see when U live in a different country it is important to make friends from all sections of society. Or how else will you become part of that country.

Anyway, im bored of the crap you come out with.
I think i echo all when i say troll...give ur mam some milk..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
17 Jul 2009 /  #153
heh, im dont teach language as a first job ;) I do it as a hobby, cos i enjoy it.

Sure you do. Listen, how much money I earn is none of your concern as I do not boast about it, you do. So how much do you take home each month, big man?

You are another cultureless moron, similar to SeanBM, there is more culture in an used condom. Those who talk about money generally do not have it.

dtaylor5632

Go to sleep, "business man", you have a lot of deals to make in the morning no doubt. What a man, you even earn more than the Polish PM! Waffler.
cjj  - | 281  
17 Jul 2009 /  #154
In the interest of integration etc etc I could understand lessons about Polish culture - about the country in general, some basics of communication and so on. But I still can't understand why it would be useful to introduce the Polish language at primary school in such a formal manner - especially for an education system that probably doesn't have a large budget to start with.

'Twould make a cushy job though - pop over from Poland for a couple of years and learn English while prodding some unwilling youngsters through the basics of Polish.

Atleast the women will get better looking than the normal inhabitants ;)

That deserves my Quote of the Day award :)
Seanus  15 | 19666  
17 Jul 2009 /  #155
Cost effectiveness is a major concern. Sth may be desirable but that doesn't make it the right thing to do. Net benefit is an important consideration. I believe in integration into the community but don't expect everyone to take part.
magdalenaG  2 | 67  
17 Jul 2009 /  #156
Lots of food for thought in this thread ....

I'm Irish , my wife is Irish , my kids are Irish, I live in Poland.

My children learn Polish in school .

As far as I'm concerned this is one of the major benefits of having spent time in Poland & when I return to Ireland I would be only too happy for them to continue their study of Polish as I have no doubt that it will be of great relevance & importance to them in the future.
Barney  17 | 1672  
17 Jul 2009 /  #157
Irish Primary schools to teach Polish

Let's get things into perspective; the 2008 schools census recorded 2,511 Polish children attending schools here out of a total school population of 136,804. Twenty five schools have signed up for this program estimated costs are £1.5 million the education budget is £1.9 billion.

Its proposed to teach Polish to local children by Polish Teachers
northernireland.gov.uk/news/news-de/news-de-april-2009/news-de-030409-ruane-updates-polish.htm

The Minister was interested in the potential use of schools to host Polish cultural events outside normal school hours and with Polish Week taking place in May this is an area to be investigated. We also discussed the feasibility of teachers from Poland gaining employment in schools in the North.

I dont see a problem teaching any language to children, it can only be beneficial, particularly if it helps children (who didnt ask to be here) integrate.

mafketis
Its much more complicated than a simple linguist choice. In Ireland it was keep the language and die as a culture or survive. Seven hundred years of repression failed to kill the language.

There were two events which effectively killed it for the majority of the population. Firstly the Repeal of the penal laws and the church's discouragement of Irish and secondly The Famine.

The language was lost in one generation to ensure the survival of the people. Ireland had no one to help it, no luxury of Parisian Salons, no Enemy of my Enemy, Nada, Zip, Sweet FA. The fact that Ireland survived as such a strong identifiable nation is down to no one but themselves.

Contrary to being absorbed by a foreign culture Ireland took a foreign language and made it her own, retained its culture and survived.

Since partial independence the country has tried to ensure survival. Language comes second to survival.
Torq  
17 Jul 2009 /  #158
benefits of having spent time in Poland & when I return to Ireland I would be only too happy for them to continue their study of Polish.

Fair play to you.

I'm sure your children will be grateful to you in the future for being given opportunity
to master the most widely spoken Slavic language in the EU (and it will also make
it much easier for them to learn Russian, Czech or any other Slavic language if they
should wish to do it).

As the economies of Central/Eastern European countries continue to grow in the
future it will also give them a lot of opportunities in their professional careers.

If only all kids had such intelligent and thoughtful parents as you are...

Many study for years and get nowhere but others immerse themselves in the language and come out trumps.

That is correct. I'm quite happy with my French even though I started learning it quite
late (when I was 22). Spot on about the immersion in the language. In addition to traditional
learning, it triggers the LAD (Language Acquisition Device) in your head and allows you
to master the language faster and more thoroughly.
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
17 Jul 2009 /  #159
I dont believe you, Magdalena.
magdalenaG  2 | 67  
17 Jul 2009 /  #160
Anonymity is very important in my line of work. Don't be fooled by my pokerstars pseudonym.
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
18 Jul 2009 /  #161
I will take your word for it. Are you teaching your children Irish?

Myself and many others have written to the Minister for Education to express our disgust at recent eveents in Northern Ireland. :)

Say no to Polish!
Wroclaw Boy  
18 Jul 2009 /  #162
Myself and many others have written to the Minister for Education to express our disgust at recent eveents in Northern Ireland. :)

Whats next bust out the balaclavas and AK 47's? Youre a minority get over it.

it triggers the LAD (Language Acquisition Device) in your head

How much do they cost? is it painfull to install? I could use that for Polish.
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
18 Jul 2009 /  #163
Wroclaw Boy

Eh, look up every opinion poll, pole. Every single last one showed the Irish people do not want you in our country. Capisce?

If there was a referendum on the issue tomorrow you would be home for a goulash supper on Monday. Dont kid yourself. The Irish people do not want you in their country.

You have previously been warned for taking threads off topic.
Del boy  20 | 254  
18 Jul 2009 /  #164
I think Noimmi and revokenice are just part of the same project. Could be BNP, Combat 18. They both were strange in terms of average Scottish or Irish person.
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
18 Jul 2009 /  #165
Eh, look up every opinion poll, pole.

He's not Polish, just like most people here. Get that into your tiny brain, pink ****.
SeanBM  34 | 5781  
18 Jul 2009 /  #166
They both were strange in terms of average Scottish or Irish person.

You know it, could be an internet thing, you know, brainless toothless lonely creep, never loved and shown no attention growing up, now trolls forums.

It is amazing how much attention they both need.
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
18 Jul 2009 /  #167
Grzegorz_

Big man, indeed.

Del boy

I am not a brit, I am an Irish nationalist who is is fed up of my country being used as a dumping ground for other countries undesireables. And now they want their language taught in our schools. Sheer madness.
Wroclaw Boy  
18 Jul 2009 /  #168
Eh, look up every opinion poll, pole.

Hes all about writing and not reading i already told you im English, pay attention.
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
18 Jul 2009 /  #169
Wroclaw Boy

I was talking to DelBoy. Hes a foreigner in Ireland.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
18 Jul 2009 /  #170
You addressed WB though.
SeanBM  34 | 5781  
18 Jul 2009 /  #171
And now they want their language taught in our schools.

It is very practical, Polish will be taught as a foreign language like German, French and Spanish.
Given the big population of Poles in Ireland, it makes complete sence.
And the kids can practice their Polish.
I would like to see the rest of Ireland do the same thing.

I was talking to

You are a liar, you have already been caught lying on this forum.
Wroclaw Boy  
18 Jul 2009 /  #172
I was talking to DelBoy. Hes a foreigner in Ireland.

Heres a tip mate learn to use the forum properly like we all do, arent you a little bit mistified as to how you quote and respond?

Im done with this idiot.. Like banging your head against a brick wall.
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
18 Jul 2009 /  #173
SeanBM

Why should Irish people be forced to,

1-Share a classroom with foreigners
2-Learn their language
3-Pay for educating foreign children. To teach them english costs hundreds of millions.

Polish children should be taught in Poland. They can learn Polish all they want there.

You want to turn Ireland into a mini Poland. You are a traitor to the nation.
Del boy  20 | 254  
18 Jul 2009 /  #174
RN, If you are Irish only one thought comes up to my mind about who you really are.
You must be an under working class guy.
Similar to the guys from Adam & Paul ( Irish movie ) with an access to internet and A LOT of spare time

youtube.com/watch?v=F0Ja6k12Zzc
SeanBM  34 | 5781  
18 Jul 2009 /  #175
Why should Irish people be forced to,

They are not being forced.

1-Share a classroom with foreigners

You are an idiot.

2-Learn their language

You claim to speak several foreign tongues yourself, you fool.

3-Pay for educating foreign children. To teach them english costs hundreds of millions.

Given your lack of logic, it would certainly not pay to have uneducated foreign kids, you are too stupid to discuss anything.

Polish children should be taught in Poland. They can learn Polish all they want there.

You are just a mindless xenophobe.
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
18 Jul 2009 /  #176
They are not being forced.

Are they given an option in the matter. No, they are not. Why do you think so many Irish kids are being sent to Gaeltacht schools these days? To get away from foreigners. Foreign children have poor english skills and because of this, standards are being driven down.

You claim to speak several foreign tongues yourself, you fool.

Yes, I do. My personal choice, I wasnt forced to learn any language.

Given your lack of logic, it would certainly not pay to have uneducated foreign kids, you are too stupid to discuss anything.

Why should the Irish taxpayer pay for english lessons for foreigners? We should bill the Polish government for teaching their citizens or bill the parents. Not our responsibility.

You are just a mindless xenophobe.

Well if you say it, it must be true. You hate your own nation so much you want to turn it into a mini Poland.
niejestemcapita  2 | 561  
18 Jul 2009 /  #177
Because Ireland is in the EU, you win some you lose some, toughshit.
Irish have been riding high on the Euro hog for long enough.
Our perfectly good friendly local pub in London was taken over by Saoirse thugs, boohoo....
You remind me of Plankton from Spongebob Squarepants, he suffers without enough hatred....
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
18 Jul 2009 /  #178
A pub has been taken over by freedom thugs? Sorry to hear that, my country is under an illegal occupation by jackbooted thugs. I feel your pain.

The EU has been riding high too, or should that be sailing high.

"An article by marine correspondent of The Irish Times in 1997 estimated the value of fish taken from Irish waters annually by non-Irish vessels at 2 billion Irish punts. Even halving these figures, one can state a reasonable case that we have pulled our weight within the EU right from the start. We have paid a price in the devastation of our embryonic fishing industry, in the introduction of milk quotas when our fellow member states were at a much higher level of production and development with some not even using the environmentally sound method of grassland production, and with the elimination of one of our few post-Independence success stories, the sugar production industry.
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
18 Jul 2009 /  #180
When they start annexing parts of the UK, as The Republic of Ireland I will sympathise with you.

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