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Irish Primary schools to teach Polish


OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
16 Jul 2009 /  #31
cjj

Two tribes have been at war for generations, another tribe entering the fray will hardly help tensions.

Immigrants whine about their rights, they are treated better than citizens if truth be told. Yet we never hear them harp on about their responsibilities.

Shite like this might work in the multicult hellhole that is the UK, but in Ireland it will be a different tale. Ireland seems as liberal as any western nation on the surface, but in reality.......
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
16 Jul 2009 /  #32
but in reality.......

It's full of brave warriors like you, who are going to crush their enemies and qonqer the world ! Oy !!! Run for your life ! The pinks are coming ! Maybe If we learn some Austrian they will leave us alone !
cjj  - | 281  
16 Jul 2009 /  #33
Two tribes have been at war for generations,
I know. I grew up there. I'm one of those people who never sat in a classroom with a catholic until tertiary education. I'm from the side of the community that has zero culture because it all belongs to "the other side".

another tribe entering the fray will hardly help tensions.
The tensions will continue at a low, simmering level until something changes that -- I'm simply wondering if something like mass immigration would at least bring matters to a point where they had to be effectively dealt with. Of course the "dealing with" might be a lurch towards being ever more segregated and wierd. /sigh/

I'm still puzzled whether the "NI primary schools" is meant to mean state or RC.
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
16 Jul 2009 /  #34
Grzegorz_

What are you on about? The "pinks" are not coming for you. Us "pinks" would have never given you a second thaught where it not for your invasion of our land.
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
16 Jul 2009 /  #35
I oppose this.

Be thankful its not fooking urdu like in England!

Foreign exchange programmes should be introduced. If a child spent a month in France, doing schoolwork in French, I guarantee their skills in that language would improve ten fold.

They are in the UK, my friends daughter spent 2 weeks out in France and some French kid came to stay with her...
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
16 Jul 2009 /  #36
ShelleyS

Englands lost, Shelley. Its foooooked.
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
16 Jul 2009 /  #37
I may come to Ireland ;0)
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
16 Jul 2009 /  #38
ShelleyS

Why not, if you have Irish blood I have no problem with that. Once you are not in the BNP or a loyalist.
Jihozapad  
16 Jul 2009 /  #39
Shite like this might work in the multicult hellhole that is the UK, but in Ireland it will be a different tale. Ireland seems as liberal as any western nation on the surface, but in reality.......

With more than 3000 people losing their jobs every day in the UK, don't be so sure that this "liberalism" will last for much longer over here either. It's been a while (decades) since I've heard as many people openly discuss what is wrong in the UK, but it's definitely happening - more and more people are deciding that enough is enough; you can feel the anger. Some members of my family are strongly considering voting BNP, and they're all Polish!
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
16 Jul 2009 /  #40
Why not, if you have Irish blood I have no problem with that.

I look more Irish than ya average paddy ;0)

Once you are not in the BNP.

Not a BNP support, regardless of what Harry thinks.

or a loyalist.

Im Catholic.
Mister H  11 | 761  
16 Jul 2009 /  #41
I post here to get an oppossing view, so to speak. To be frank, the argument for mass immigration is **** poor at best.

The Poles are living in ghettos at present, at their own discretion I may add. There are Polish ghettos all over the country. There are apartment blocks consisting of 90% Polish nationals.

It is not something we can avoid, it is something we are living with at present.

They have no wish to integrate, if they did surely they would be learning Irish?

These situations don't drop out of a clear blue sky though. Those that can and do make these big decisions must have had a "worst case scenario" discussion.

You predicted a violent backlash the other night, Seanus. I laughed it off at the time, but you could well be proven right.

I wasn't the only one that predicted it, Mister H did just after me.

You're right I did. People will only take so much and sooner or later people react. Remember the race riots in Bradford ? That wasn't that long ago and that was in many ways British vs British accept some were white and some were asian.

Similar could happen just as easily with economic migrants (or whatever the PC term is) being the target. It could take something as small as Little Johnny coming home speaking a few Polish words to tip someone over the edge.

Be thankful its not fooking urdu like in England!

And you think that the reasons behind these Polish lessons are not similar to a school that has a lot of children speaking Urdu ?
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
16 Jul 2009 /  #42
And you think that the reasons behind these Polish lessons are not similar to a school that has a lot of children speaking Urdu ?

It might be because Brits are actually going to Poland to live, marrying Poles etc, how many English/Irish/Scots are going to live in india or pakistan? At least Polish might be useful to some kid in the future, which is more than can be said for urdu!
Jihozapad  
16 Jul 2009 /  #43
It could take something as small as Little Johnny coming home speaking a few Polish words to tip someone over the edge.

it's more likely to be Urdu though - which is exactly why my sister took her eldest out of one school, and put him in another - where he finally gets taught English songs, not Pakistani.
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
16 Jul 2009 /  #44
She isnt the first to do that either!
Mister H  11 | 761  
16 Jul 2009 /  #45
it's more likely to be Urdu though - which is exactly why my sister took her eldest out of one school, and put him in another - where he finally gets taught English songs, not Pakistani.

Fair comment. I wish though that in such situations the parents kicked up a stink to the school before taking them out and sending them somewhere else.

Maybe your sister did complain, obviously I don't know what happened, but nothing changes if parents simply take their child to another school.
Jihozapad  
16 Jul 2009 /  #46
Maybe your sister did complain, obviously I don't know what happened, but nothing changes if parents simply take their child to another school.

Nothing changes in a school which is 90% Asian.
Mister H  11 | 761  
16 Jul 2009 /  #47
There must have been a time when it wasn't though.

As I've said before, these situations don't happen overnight, it's a slow drip-drip-drip and if no one takes any action, you do get swamped.

That's what has happened in schools like the one your niece/nephew went too. When it was 9% rather than 90% Asian, parents should have duge their heels in when it came to there being too much stuff in Urdu or whatever and said "I'm not putting up with this!". Easier said than done maybe, but it's no surprise that we are where we are.

Your sentence could just as easily be saying "Nothing changes in a school which is 90% Polish." in a decade or so if some common sense isn't applied now when there is a still a chance too.
Matowy  - | 293  
16 Jul 2009 /  #48
Where on earth do you live that teaches Urdu in schools, and is 90% Asian? Are we living in the same UK?
Jihozapad  
16 Jul 2009 /  #49
You must live in a small town or in the countryside, then.

There must have been a time when it wasn't though.

True, some good points there.

But remember... we've been here as long as the Pakistanis. There are still far fewer of us than there are of them, yet I have never met a Polish person who was born in the UK who has a Polish accent, or who speaks bad English. Unlike many Pakistanis, some of whom have never been to Pakistan (well, they hardly need to, do they? lol). We don't have large families, either. Also, a lot of Poles are going back, or will probably do so soon... whereas few of Britain's Pakistanis have any intention of going back.

Now tell me what the chances of "90% Polish schools" are ;)
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
16 Jul 2009 /  #50
But remember... we've been here as long as the Pakistanis.

Actually longer, if you go on the fact that they thought that Jack the Ripper was a Pole ;0)

Your sentence could just as easily be saying "Nothing changes in a school which is 90% Polish." in a decade or so if some common sense isn't applied now when there is a still a chance too.

I went to a Catholic school, plenty of Italian names and Hungarian and Spanish and Greek and Ukranian and Irish of course, we all learnt what was on the curriculum there were no "special" cases for any of the kids who were probably either 1st or 2nd generation. The only reason you knew they had a foreign connection was because of their name, they were fully assimliated into English society and were not look upon as "foreign". This worked well, it's only now with asians and africans that can't speak English we have problems, as I have already stated, Catholic schools are still doing well and they have a large intake of Poles.
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
16 Jul 2009 /  #51
This is a thread about the Polish plantation of Ireland, stay on topic. ;)
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
16 Jul 2009 /  #52
Yerrr, watcha gonna do about it if I don't? ;0)
Seanus  15 | 19666  
16 Jul 2009 /  #53
Would there be a choice for Irish kids as to doing Polish lessons?
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
16 Jul 2009 /  #54
Seanus

I dont know, it is unclear in the article. If some Pole forced my little brother to learn Polish, it would not be good for his health. This will be in tomorrows papers(RevokeNice with the latest scopes) I will let you know of any update.
PlasticPole  7 | 2641  
16 Jul 2009 /  #55
RevokeNice, I am sure the Poles are paying their taxes and contributing too. So what's the big deal about Polish language option in the schools?
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
16 Jul 2009 /  #56
PlasticPole

More Poles on welfare here than the woolie woolies. 50,000 on 204 euro a week and rent allowance, medical cards, child benefit, council housing etc etc

They are a drain on our economy. They pay fook all tax as anyone on less than 35,000 euro pays no income tax only PRSI. They shop in their own shops and drink in their own pubs. They smoke imported smokes from Poland. They contribute nada, zilch, fook all.

Whats the problem, I will tell you what the bleeding problem is pole, the sheer volume of you lot in my country. The sheer number of you lot bleeding the economy dry, you view Ireland as an ATM. It is not, it is a sovereign nation and is better off without you poles.
SeanBM  34 | 5781  
16 Jul 2009 /  #57
This thread is about having the option of learning Polish as a foreign language, great!.

RevokeNice is a xenophobe.
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
16 Jul 2009 /  #58
SeanBM

Scared of foreigners, moi, vous êtes idiots. J'aime d'autres cultures, je méprise l'immigration de masse.

Go away you cultureless cretin. What foreign languages can you speak? You seeem to struggle with simple English. Your spelling and grammar is atrocious.

I find those who throw around the race card and the most ardent supporters of the multicult and mass immigration to be monoglot fools who wouldnt know culture if it bit them in the hole.
Matowy  - | 293  
16 Jul 2009 /  #59
You must live in a small town or in the countryside, then.

I live in a large town, which I think would be representative of what the rest of England or the UK is like. It has a 94% white population, reminiscent of the overall 93% for the whole of the UK, so it confuses me when you state a 90% ethnic population in a school. I can't help but think that most of you are overreacting or hyperboling somewhat... ?
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
16 Jul 2009 /  #60
Matowy

West Dublin. 99% White Irish to a foreign majority all in the space of 8 years.

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