The Independent about Poles in the UK: "Poles are under attack."

you bang on about your theory of the english so much that you believe your own fairytale, you haven't even been to the UK or probably met many English people i think you should put your judgment back in the bag from where it came. You can throw words around like 'racist' and 'biggots' but really when you look at it you have the bigger problem than me, i have a problem with immigration, you have a problem with the English :) who is the racist biggot???

P.S. i don't need to understand what your saying, its absolute double dutch rubbish


my god i hope your not likening him to me!!!! Come on give me some credit!!!

so you don't understand what I have said :-)

But we have seen a lot of English intolerance. The Poles have merely introduced more competition into the job market and are willing to swallow their pride and do jobs not befitting of their education. I'm saying nothing new here but sometimes it needs to be restated. The booze/binge culture is costing England dearly

what am i meant to understand ow great one?? please enlighten me on your bull :)??


yes its all the fault of the English :) i thought we've already had the conversation about the government being in control :)

have you not been deported yet to your s.hit hole cfountry my little brazilian friend?


a faggot is alway just a faggot.


it seems that you tend to love everything that is english.i read a few of your sensless posts and have to agree with lukasz about you.it must have been the place that you came from that made you so tiny and submissive.you have no pride,nothing.once,i've checked your profile.there is a question"do you speak polish?"-your answer was;-"if i have to speak polish".wow.that says it all.

I'm talking about some English folk now tornado. It all depends on what press u read. There will always be those who let ur good country down. I think more Poles on this forum need to try and conceptualise this mass migration more. I said it today to my Polish friend and I've said it often b4 that people really need to try and make the best effort they can to understand the position of others. This is more poignant when we are talking about death, divorce or war etc etc.

I always try to be as objective as possible on this forum.

maybe we would all understand if he found a better way of putting his thoughts in writing. some english skills would be helpful as well. and if that fails, we gotta learn telepathy. it will be hard to read lukasz's thoughts though as you would have to get through that thick skull of his first haha.

what i can't understand is that people like Lukasz address me like i'm some sort of racist or that i have a series problem with Polish people, if i did, then i woudn't be here. The truth of the matter is i don't have a problem with any particular clreed or colour or even religion. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH 'IMMIGRATION' NOT IMMIGRANTS.

Ok so aside from my personal feeling, what you say is acceptable there are people who do let the country down, there are even a few on here who band about anti-polish statements. This is not the majority of people in the UK. The best thing to do is not even read the press and find out the feeling by talking to real people, your friends, people you meet in the pub even people you meet on forums. THe ress is largely inaccurate as i think you'll agree.


in a sense that is good as you get to have a fresh look at everythng, however its also a bit chicken, i don't mean it to be offensive to you because everybody has thei own style. I just feel that if you've got an opinion you should voice it :)


i was beggining to think i was the only one who didn't understand what he is going on about, it just seems to me he continually moans about how hard the Poles have it in the UK, damn it forget that, how hard Poles have it non-stop!!!

thnx

T

im here in england and i really like it. its not acceptable though by the looks of it as im supposed to hate everything british just like you shallow minded idiots do. im not submissive at all, im a very strong character and i dont break down easily. i am tiny though, only 9st haha. i have lots of pride, probably more than you, lukasz and zion alltogether, and im definitely more tollerant, flexible and open minded than you ever will be. i speak polish only if must as im in uk and the main langauage here is english, so as you see im respectful as well. my polish is probably better than yours, too. i am who i am and if people like you dont like me then its only cos you're jealous that you aint as successful and independent as i am. good luck cleaning toilets in poland, better than cleaning them in uk isnt it? ha ha.

again it wasn't about that :))))) you are so funny :)))

that is all I want to say in this topic :)

So what if I were to have strong opinions on various issues? Would it secure me a 45,000 salary as a politician in the UK? I think not!! I do have opinions and they don't preclude objectivity

thats all you can say, your ok when it comes to complaining but when your asked to explain yourself you wrap up warm in that cover of yours :) come out and enlighten me, i've already offered it to you once :) be a big man and show me the error of my ways, come on (Racist biggot)


why on earth would you want to be a politician anyway, i wouldn't hide behind lies and follow the party line whether or not i would recieve a £45,000 a year wage. I'm a bit more of a man than that :) My morals mean a lot more to me than dirty money, well actually the tax payers money :)


well Justyna i think its a case of that because you enjoy it here in England, your not welcome, there looking for people who hate this country you see so they can all join the 'kiss each others backsides' group, so they can talk about how bad the english are :) You and other Polish people are more than welcome here and i hope you all enjoy it, if they don't like it then they know they can hop on the next plane back to Warsaw :)

yes, thats why im a submissive trator, and you are a racist bigot, cos we dont fit in the group ha ha. oh well, what a shame. if i went to italy or germany or wherever else, i would be just as respectful towards the people and the country as i am here in UK. maybe thats why i've never been a target to any British people i came across, cos i have respect and i am grateful for what i've achieved and learnt here. i'm not "one of the Polish", im "one of the dudes" lol.

Ty zdracja, ty!! LOL It's a learning curve as u acknowledge.

your boyish provocation is funny :)
I will leave you in unconsciousness. :)
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wybacz mi! ;) what sort of a learning curve?


yeah the usual again, you have no arguements to back up your claims, or maybe your english skills are not good enough for a genuine, mature debate, anyway you just back away because you aint brave or intelligent enough to face someone who is challenging you. how pathetic.

Cultural differences my friend. Some would say that reserving sunbeds with towels is not good etiquette but i'm not about to view Germans in a bad light because of it.

If groups are Brits are breaking the law in Krakow then the police should by all means take action. If they are just being loud and having too much fun for your liking then get over yourself and deal with it.


How about Polish men groping girls in clubs in London??

You say only British groups behave like this? Could it be that it is mainly young Brits who visit Krakow for a party weekend? Trust me, there are plenty who go there and don't. For what it's worth, I got sh*t from Polish men in nearly every club I went in to when i talked to 'their' women! I'm not about to judge all Polish men based on my personal experience.


Maybe that was harsh but you seem particularly intolrant of the British in Krakow when their are Polish behaving just as badly in London albeit in a different manner. The way you made your initial point also suggested that certain behaviour was a British trait.

so am i.i've lived here for seven years.


i didn't say that you should hate everything what is british.i said that you love and support everything that is british.i have quite a few british friends and never said that i hate this country but this country and its people aren't flawless.your arse licking attitude towards the brits is just disgusting.you support the views of bubba the fag.got who said "polish women are ok just for a fuk"wow that must have made you proud of being a polish woman huh?


is it what you write on a sheet of paper 100 times a day then stick it to the wall?


if you put me lukasz and zion(the most anti polish brazilian i.diot on this forum) that you are either blind or or just your level of education doesn't allow you to understand simple texts).


i'm in the uk too and do speak both polish and english depends on the circumstances.i'don't pretend that i can't speak polish as probably you do.


and carlsberg is probably......
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i don't even want to comment on that


damn.do you play for chelsea?do you have your own tv show?


the problem is that you are so grateful and blind that you don't see the way you are treated.you will always be a second category citizen here but because you can't achive nothing more than you have achived so far you still would be ...greatful


i don't know but it sounds like you know the subject.
just last thing.myself and my wife have earned almost 60.000£ in the tax year 2007/2008.just look at your p60 and then say how succesfull and independent you are without your hubby-to-be or maybe not-to-be

you are some paranoid monkey arent you. i dont get treated like a 2nd class citizen, i know my rights and they are respected over here, i dont get paid less than my english mates do, i dont get my ass kicked by my boss just because im polish, i dont get the last place in the queue to the dentist just because im polish. understand? just because you and your wife live the way you do and get treated the way you do doesnt mean it happens to everyone. i do like the british people because so far they have been the nicest and most helpful people i have ever came across, and they never wanted anything in return. maybe im just lucky, but if i am to generalise i would say that on average british people are so much nicer and laid back than the poles, who are so often greedy and ungrateful. call it ass licking, call it blindness or whatever, that is not what it is, id be talking just as nice about my english friends if they were polish, russian, american or spanish. i have put up with polish sonofabitchez like yourself both in Poland and over here and you always sing the same tune. just because im nice to and about brits doesnt mean i have some gain in it or expect people to love me for it. i support bubba and others not because they are british, but because they are talking sense. im supposed to support your stories, no matter how pathetic they are and how much i dont agree with them just because youre polish like me and thats the only right thing for me to do? who are you to expect me to think and talk the way you do, are you having a laugh? get over yourself. take your money to Poland and carry on moaning, see who gives a f*ck about it. i dont hide my Polish roots or my Polish accent at all, i know people who do and i find them a big joke. i do speak polish to my family over the phone or to my polish mates at work, but if our english mates are around we make the effort of speaking in english just so everyone knows whats going on. is that ass licking too? or should i isolate myself and make it clear that im only here for the money not to be friendly and i shall bugger off as soon as i earned what i wanted to earn? keep you BS to yourself and really dont bother trying to come up with some more witty comments about my post cos they aint funny and they definitely aint true. have a good life and kiss my ass!

Very well put.

Excuse me, have you ever been to Brazil?? I agree Zion is a big joke and probably a very sad person too who won`t be happy in Poland or anywhere in the whole world, but Brazil has nothing to do with it. Brazil is a wonderful country full of happy and nice people.

Britain should deport the ~2 million poles who migrated to the UK after Poland's entry into the EU. Then, since your government has decided that the UK needs immigrants, they should immediately replace the poles with 2 million pakis.

I wonder who the Brits would prefer...

At least we'd have a competitive cricket team ;)

oh yeah one more thing, i live by myself and my fiance doesnt support me. i work full time and i pay for my bills and everything else with my own money. he earns much more than i do but he often spends most of his wages in about 2 weeks after he gets paid (which really p*sses me off by the way) so i often end up helping him out at the end of the month. if anything, i am certainly not dependant on anybody but myself.


you all preach that Polish people in UK are 2nd class citizens and have no rights. that is the link i meant.

In the traditional class-system, second class is pretty good going.

oh maaa gawd. go and learn some English first kid, maybe they will like you more lmao

Wasn't that learn 'the' English? Hehehe

you didn't understand too much did you?
i write in simple english.try to understand not just read
first i'd like you to read the post written by bubba the faggot and try to understand why i reacted at his post.there you go:::::

BubbaWoo
Apr 20, 08, 07:26 Report #84

you see lukasz youre a pole which is why people dont give you the respect you so desperately want.

your country is a joke, your country's language is ridicularse and your country's food is fit for peasents, youre country's women arent bad, worth a fuk, but thats about it.

youre country is getting fukt over by foreign investors who realise that most poles havent got a clue when it comes to doing business in the real world. we,ve bought your houses for peanuts and then watched as your peoples' greed has priced the average pole out of the market.

youre a pole, you must surely know all about steroetypes... and that they didnt come from knowhere

youre a pole - which is why you are laughed at and treated with contempt.

you will always be a pole

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if you can't see anything wrong with that.well.that's your problem.


maybe not you maybe not there but people are treated bad just cuz they are poles and unfortunately some of them don't speak good english.

don't talk people down just because they want to highlite the problem you know fcuk about.
i know it first hand. some people are underpaid,some are fooled about taxes some have to put up with antipolish/racist remarks.i wouldn't say i word if i couldn't back it up.


neither did i say nor lukasz that it happens to everyone.so far you are the only one who paint the picture of britain in rosy colours and any attempts of dismantling of this happy image trigger some angry responses from you.


damn.read his post above and dont make me quote a few of his other posts.


find me the line where i said that?i didn't want you to support me in my conversation with bubba the faggot but obviously you had to say somethin to please him.

as i said.try to read and understand.i said exactly the opposite.don't lick one's arse just because he/she is english.

and last thing
read bubbas post again before another good natured conversation with him

True...

true.i've been to south america and know the situation there.i didn't mean to offend the whole nation just this idiot who moan about poland all the time.if you don't know him i'll tell you.he married a polish girl for the passport(he admitted that) and has to(against his will)spend 5 years in PL.he is a 2 faced dickead.i'm sorry if you felt offended.