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13,000 Polish births this year, in the UK


italia  
12 Jan 2008 /  #151
Poles are our european christian brothers and sisters and the more the better.
UKGUY  3 | 87  
13 Apr 2009 /  #152
Soon we will have a Polish "super race" in the UK ;) 100% Polish I hope
Mister H  11 | 761  
13 Apr 2009 /  #153
You bumped this thread to say that ?

I'm not sure you're on the right track with your thoughts anyway. The Polish that start families over here (assuming that they don't go back to Poland) will be giving birth to British citizens.

I'm not too sure on how the official side of it works when foreigners give birth in another country, but eventually those children will be citizens of that country. Therefore, all the little Polish/British rug-rats will be British citizens, speak English as a first language, speak Polish (assuming their parents teach them any) with a British accent and Poland will be a place they see on TV.

Stay here long enough and you become one of us eventually ;-)
Wroclaw Boy  
13 Apr 2009 /  #154
Soon we will have a Polish "super race" in the UK ;) 100% Polish I hope

The problem with Poland is that its full of Poles.
Mister H  11 | 761  
13 Apr 2009 /  #155
Is it ? Good to hear !

My vision of Poland is of a place that has all but been deserted, with just a few old men sitting all day in cafés reminiscing of the times before everyone moved to England to drive lorries and work in hotels.
leszek38  - | 31  
13 Apr 2009 /  #156
Dont worry, there is still plenty of us in Poland, and a siginificant percent is wondering if is ther still any point to go to look for a work in England at this date and age ;-)
Mister H  11 | 761  
13 Apr 2009 /  #157
I hope that the reasons for wanting to leave aren't so strong and more reasons to stay ?
southern  73 | 7059  
14 Apr 2009 /  #158
13,000 Polish births this year, in the UK

Slavicization of UK.Not bad actually.
Mister H  11 | 761  
14 Apr 2009 /  #159
If it helps to wipe out those awful British 'parents' featured in Channel 4's "The Hospital" this evening, I wouldn't object.

I'd support anything that helped erode the chavs.
Ironside  50 | 12383  
15 Apr 2009 /  #160
My vision of Poland is of a place that has all but been deserted, with just a few old men sitting all day in cafés reminiscing of the times before everyone moved to England to drive lorries and work in hotels.

Poland population is 38milions in uk there are about 600.000 -700.000
on the other hand 10% population from Lituhania is living in uk.
You should get your numbers right before focusing on Poles but if you are just looking for scapegoats thats ok.
wildrover  98 | 4430  
16 Apr 2009 /  #161
Poland population is 38milions in

Well thats good to hear...i was a bit worried i might end up here on my own...Mind you , my Polish friends assure me that only the rubbish has gone to the UK , all the really great people have stayed behind....
Krzysztof  2 | 971  
16 Apr 2009 /  #162
only the rubbish has gone to the UK

Just a genaralization as good (or rather as bad) as any other.
I can still see much of the rubbish left here in Poland :)
wildrover  98 | 4430  
16 Apr 2009 /  #163
I can still see much of the rubbish left here in Poland

Thankfully my friends are not such people , i guess they mean that those who have what it takes to make a good life in Poland see no need to go elsewhere...
Ironside  50 | 12383  
16 Apr 2009 /  #164
And whats that? family connections or they lick the ass of the right person - thank you
by the way what are you doing outside YOUR country!?
wildrover  98 | 4430  
16 Apr 2009 /  #165
And whats that?

Sometimes i guess its just good luck , or that they have skills that are really needed in Poland....My friend who is an auto electrician is having real problems to find a guy to work for him , as all the skilled auto electricians seem to have left his area of Polska....
Archer2009  - | 5  
12 Jul 2009 /  #166
The cost of a birth plus post natal care is tens of thousands of pounds, are you telling me one pole has paid tens of thousands of tax in one or two years.

NO we brits who have paid tax all our lives pay for these poles. we pay for them through the nhs, housing benefit, child benefit, education system etc etc.

not to mention poles get their tax rebated to them when they leave their country.

There are a lot of people from abroad coming into the UK to do the jobs the Brits themselves either can't do or won't do.

I went to hospital a while back and virtually every nurse in the hospital in which I was also born in was from the Philippines - nursing isn't very well paid - they're not undercutting UK nurses they're simply filling in positions that Brits don't want to fill and the government isn't encouraging Brits to go into those professions
Seanus  15 | 19666  
12 Jul 2009 /  #167
Nursing is the same in most countries, Poland is no different from Scotland. Equal pay for equal work and proportionality don't seem to apply here. They are cheated.

I know a bit about this as my Dad is a nurse teacher. I vividly remember him fuming over the pay cuts and the inception of General Management. He was a Labour man (old Labour but not quite a hardline unionist) so took issue with their privatisation and undercutting ways. Social care/care in the community were areas that he felt particularly strong about. They were left wing ideas and would always remain so for him.

Nurses are the pillar of our community in many ways, in health terms. More and more doctors just rubber stamp and get the patient out of there. This rings true in Britain anyway.
Jihozapad  
12 Jul 2009 /  #168
but working your butt off in Poland ain,t going to earn you enough money to buy a house...In the UK it will......

Really? Try telling that to the 18 million people in the UK who have to live in rented accommodation! And no, it's not just because they're "lazy" or "the chavs"!

All the Poles go home, all of them. And then what?

Close on a million low paid, low skills jobs will be available... yet no one doing them.

And this is the problem - this country doesn't need immigration, it just needs to force everyone to work. It wasn't like this before the war - either you worked, or you starved! But then the Left came along, and what was initially a good idea (the Welfare State) became the "Nanny State" insetead. Taxes for the rest of us, who are dumb enough to have wanted to always work for a living, could halve overnight. Why do so many people have a problem with forcing EVERYONE to contribute something to society?

13,000 Polish births this year, in the UK

There's probably that many non-European births in the UK every week, but I don't see such a furore over that!
Mister H  11 | 761  
12 Jul 2009 /  #169
And this is the problem - this country doesn't need immigration, it just needs to force everyone to work. It wasn't like this before the war - either you worked, or you starved! But then the Left came along, and what was initially a good idea (the Welfare State) became the "Nanny State" insetead. Taxes for the rest of us, who are dumb enough to have wanted to always work for a living, could halve overnight. Why do so many people have a problem with forcing EVERYONE to contribute something to society?

Votes probably. If the welfare state is drastically changed in the way it needs to be, that party will probably loose votes from the people they're taking the money away from.

Too many rely on benefits now.

There's probably that many non-European births in the UK every week, but I don't see such a furore over that!

True, but in theory those people have been paying in tax and NI for longer, so it could be argued that they are more entitled.

The NHS is too easy to screw over and will eventually become the health service for the very poor and those fresh off the boat. The rest of us will have to find the money to go private.
snip  1 | 8  
15 Jul 2009 /  #170
I was born and bred in the uk and so were my 6 siblings. My father was a displaced Polish soldier, who fought very hard to keep Britain free. He was not able to return to Poland after the war and so he started a small business. All 7 of us grew up to gain professional qualifications and obtained highly respected work. We all worked hard and especially my dad. We have all married English people and have added our hard working and clever Polish/Dutch genes to the gene pool. Oh yes my dad married a Dutch lady.

We would often be in our terraced house listening to the lazy, drunken men from England and we lived in the centre of benefit land

Noimmigration, you really don`t know what you are talking about when it comes to uk immigration
RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
15 Jul 2009 /  #171
snip

Either do you.

A rise in the birthrate among foreign families is putting significant squeeze on primary school places, according to MPs.

Extra pressure on reception classes in September is a "direct result of mass immigration" into the United Kingdom, it was claimed.

In the last eight years, the number of births to foreign mothers has increased by 64 per cent, figures show.

But in the same period, birthrates among UK families rose by six per cent.

The Cross Party Group on Balanced Migration said ministers were "misleading" the public by failing to acknowledge the problem.

telegraph.co.uk/education...ol-crisis.html
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
15 Jul 2009 /  #172
My father was a displaced Polish soldier, who fought very hard to keep Britain free.

So he was here since the late 1940s, which makes you in your 50s, which means you must have lived in some right dog rough area when you were growing up to have been amongst such scum...Or you are a liar.

We have all married English people and have added our hard working and clever Polish/Dutch genes to the gene pool. Oh yes my dad married a Dutch lady.

That's very good, Im sure that the Dutch and Polish side the family were ecstatic to have such wondeful genes introduced in to their pool!

We would often be in our terraced house listening to the lazy, drunken men from England and we lived in the centre of benefit land

Is that where you met your wife?

drunken men from England and we lived in the centre of benefit land

You should have told your wife to tell her dad to get a job, no?

A rise in the birthrate among foreign families is putting significant squeeze on primary school places, according to MPs.

Poles aren't the major problem, those from 3rd world countries are, Polish kids are very bright, Ive had it on good authority from a teacher I know, she has a friend at a catholic school, unfortunately she works in a C&E school who have major problems.

But in the same period, birthrates among UK families rose by six per cent.

I like to think that our family are doing our bit ;0)
Jihozapad  
15 Jul 2009 /  #173
Poles aren't the major problem, those from 3rd world countries are, Polish kids are very bright, Ive had it on good authority from a teacher I know, she has a friend at a catholic school, unfortunately she works in a C&E school who have major problems.

It's something I've always noted that the media lie about: If race or ethnic group has nothing to do with how well children do at school, and if not speaking English as a first language may hold children back, then how come Poles do so well (despite the fact that Polish has virtually nothing in common with English), and Blacks do so badly - despite the fact that the first language for the majority of Blacks in the UK is English? Or, for that matter, why do the Chinese do so well, but not the Pakistanis? I'm NOT being racist - it's a perfectly reasonable observation. Maybe someone can explain, because speaking Polish first, and being from an immigrant family, didn't hold me back at all.
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
15 Jul 2009 /  #174
Well, from what Ive been told, Polish kids work hard and are eager to learn and even those with limited English lang. skills are pretty much fluent within a couple of months...Yet those that are born here (asians) don’t come to school with English and struggle massively, african immigrant children also struggle ,those who speak arabic are the worst, those that purport to speak English (nigerian) have real problems with grammar and pronunciation. Its not racist, its a fact, some nationalities hold education in high regard, thus put the time in with their children, others dont.
Mister H  11 | 761  
16 Jul 2009 /  #175
I'm sure what you're saying is correct in your experience, however, I do find it ironic that a post about the importance of grammar lacks so many apostrophes.
RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
16 Jul 2009 /  #176
Soon we will have a Polish "super race" in the UK ;) 100% Polish I hope

You are a traitor to your people. Self loathing is not an attractive trait.
dtaylor5632  18 | 1998  
16 Jul 2009 /  #177
hahahaha, pot calling what now?
RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
16 Jul 2009 /  #178
dtaylor5632

Are you drunk again?
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
16 Jul 2009 /  #179
I do find it ironic that a post about the importance of grammar lacks so many apostrophes.

This is a forum, I wasn't aware you were judging my writing skills!

Isn't your wife a 3rd world immigrant? How are her writing skills?
southern  73 | 7059  
16 Jul 2009 /  #180
13,000 Polish births this year, in the UK

Lots of swimming pools in UK.

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