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13,000 Polish births this year, in the UK


postie 7 | 112  
6 Dec 2007 /  #31
Hey. Noimmigration.

Just imagine for a moment, if you can get your lonely braincell to work for a moment.

All the Poles go home, all of them. And then what?

Close on a million low paid, low skills jobs will be available... yet no one doing them. No one paying tax or NI. No one renting flats or spending the money earned at those jobs in UK shops.

Imagine it. Is it going to be beneficial to the UK economy?

And once the Poles have gone, who is going to be the target of your hate then? The muslims? OK, send them home... who you going to rant at next? The blacks? OK.. send them home... who next...the Irish? Send 'em home... who next.... Hugenots! Send 'em back... The Jutes? Send 'em all back.... cos somewhere down the line we might get rid of fuckwits like yourself. :)
Puzzler 9 | 1,089  
6 Dec 2007 /  #32
cos somewhere down the line we might get rid of fuckwits like yourself. :)

- Right on, man.
:)
noimmigration  
6 Dec 2007 /  #33
Hey. Noimmigration.

Just imagine for a moment, if you can get your lonely braincell to work for a moment.

All the Poles go home, all of them. And then what?

one f the reasons there are over 1 million poles in britain is governemnt incompetance (which is being investigated). The governemtn forecasted that 40,000 poles would come to the uk not hundreds of hundred s of thousands.

we were doing fine before the poles came, now there is concern that poles are filling jobs and taking away employment from school leavers etc.

if all the poles left britain we would be fine just like before the poles were here (which was only a couple Of years ago.

Are so arrogant to think that these polish migrants are holding the british economy (which is ne of the worlds strongest) together. we were fine before we let poland in the eu and we would be fine if they left.
osiol 55 | 3,922  
6 Dec 2007 /  #34
The governemtn forecasted that 40,000 poles would come to the uk

You trust all projected figures from the government?

if all the poles left britain we would be fine just like before the poles were here (which was only a couple Of years ago

Suddenly a hell of a lot of job vacancies and no-one there to take them all.

Are so arrogant to think that these polish migrants are holding the british economy (which is ne of the worlds strongest) together

The economy is strong because of what is available to it due to its pragmatic approach.
espana 17 | 910  
6 Dec 2007 /  #35
noimmigration

what about if i said that i dont want any bloody scottish or english living in spain ?
i m not sick when i go to my place and look hundreds of british living in my land but i could be ,,,,no? do you think all these british are rich? i dont think so!!

so shut the fuc@ up!!
osiol 55 | 3,922  
6 Dec 2007 /  #36
what about if i said that i dont want any bloody scottish or english living in spain ?

I feel sorry for you. A lot of them are the ones I'd be glad not to see again.
Some people claim they don't cost the Spanish economy anything. I doubt this to be true.
Should I dare to ask for your thoughts on this?
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161  
6 Dec 2007 /  #37
Mugli, what's your problem ? If UK opened the labor market for citizens of your country, so many of them would come that the whole thing would probably sink.
rex - | 37  
6 Dec 2007 /  #38
i am not agaist poles going there what i am saying i wish that they not have to do that should not be a need for high qualify poles go there and sometimes get jobs that are not at the level of ther education . as we see many poles on this very same forum asking for any jobs in UK Eire holland etc you dont see this high numbers of other places in the EU going to look for work in the uk I can see the africans even latin americans doing the dirty jobs in the UK but I dont see why POland right in the heart of europe has not got his game togheter and high educated poles in those crazy numbers going there . 13000 parents think is better for ther kids be born in the UK dont have to be like that Poland is Europe you dont see this statics from any other EU country
Puzzler 9 | 1,089  
7 Dec 2007 /  #39
Suddenly a hell of a lot of job vacancies and no-one there to take them all.

- More folks from the Third World would have to be taken in. There are actually MILLIONS of them in UK already. They are great cheap workers, they are humble, they don't cry about 'human rights,' they don't go for the (well-paid) 'quota' jobs reserved for 'racial minorities,' they respect greatly the English, Scottish and Welsh, they can help maintain UK cultural, national, etc. values, they don't go for social assistance, and they're not staying in UK for good.

Way to go, UK, and EU indeed.
:)
PS. Osiol, I think this delusional racist (and cowardly) creep you're replying to seems to be lying about ONE million Poles having come to UK after 2004 (it's the figure the Daily Mail psychopaths have been giving frequently). Even if as many Poles have entered UK, in many cases it must have been seasonal workers, e.g. students, who returned to Poland after a short period (to come again for seasonal work next year). The one million figure may contain many persons each one of whom has been counted several times.
OP Zeze 9 | 79  
7 Dec 2007 /  #40
bealive is more then 10000 what is really sad

nobody is racist here just telling facts that some of you poles dotn want face it
Foreigner4 12 | 1,768  
7 Dec 2007 /  #41
i wonder how many births there were in poland this year, that figure could help us determine (as an estimate) how many poles really are in the uk.

I'm also curious as to how many births there were in poland for non poles and how many births there were in the uk from other immigrant populations.

I think any objective observer couldn't come to any other conclusion than, as a whole, the disparity in wages within the EU and greater european job market is the leading cause of this migration.

One thing people seem to forget is that this could have a domino effect where "cheaper" workers keep moving westward. The effect of that is an increase in difference between the rich and the poor and a shrinking middle class.

This is an actual phenomenon that has been developing for the past 20 years. From what i've seen the majority of slavic immigrants in London were most certainly living at a much lower standard (and i along with them) than most indigineous brits. In fact the whole area i was in, was almost exclusively immigrants or recent immigrants and it was rather dodgey. Is that a coincidence or was that my experience of a strong undercurrent that is on the rise?
jareck8  
7 Dec 2007 /  #42
this is an excellent news feed, we should celebrate the fact that the east and west are getting closer, this is the only hope for humanity to live in peace together - dont look at colour or nationality jsut look at the love respect and care you can give each other.. i think we need more doctors, nurses and other service perosnnel who can speak polish.
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
7 Dec 2007 /  #43
What is the difference between... Poles who work in Britain and send money home.... and Brits who have been working in Saudi Arabia and the rest of the Gulf, since the 70's.

The Brits don't or at least didn't pay tax and they worked with the express reason of sending money home to build their future.

I can't see any real difference between the two.

And don't forget the days of "Auf Wiedersehen Pet". Ten to a room and sending money home.

The way I see it you don't have a valid arguement

Im not meaning to nit pick here but there is a substantial difference

1) They were there on contracts and their companies provided private health care - so there was no cost to the tax paying Saudi - accommodation was generally apartments on ex pat complexes

2) if they did take their families with them, the kids go to private schools with English teachers.

3) Brits didnt go there in their millions and they were highly skilled engineers / pipe fitters etc.

4) re builders going to Germany - they went on contracts and didnt take the family, and they would have paid tax when they got back home - and they didnt go to germany in the 100,000's or take kids with them.

4) Im sure that the Brits that went to Germany spent plenty of their hard earned cash in the boozers whilst they were there :)
wildrover 98 | 4,451  
7 Dec 2007 /  #44
nurses and other service perosnnel who can speak polish.

I am sure there will be lots of jobs in UK for Polish doctors and nurses , but what worries me , is that i live in Poland , i would like to think that if i fall off my motorcycle there might be one or two Polish doctors left here to fix me up again......
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
7 Dec 2007 /  #45
I am sure there will be lots of jobs in UK for Polish doctors and nurses

Let me educate you here - last year only 1 in 5 newly qualified nurses got jobs because of the shortages of places in hospitals - for midwifes its even less its about 1 - 30 .....so I would completely disagree, we have enough already that cant get jobs..
wildrover 98 | 4,451  
7 Dec 2007 /  #46
Yes i was wrong.....there will be no jobs for Polish doctors and nurses...
jareck8  
7 Dec 2007 /  #47
Let me educate you here - last year only 1 in 5 newly qualified nurses got jobs because of the shortages of places in hospitals - for midwifes its even less its about 1 - 30 .....so I would completely disagree, we have enough already that cant get jobs..

i am not sure where you got your statistics form, i know a ward nurse in barts london, they are always in need of hiring competent people..

remember one hting the cultrue in the UK is no longer what it was to build the nation.. they are extremel distracted form work, i have worked in various fields, they love tea breaks, leavign early, going to pub lunches..? work people
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
7 Dec 2007 /  #48
remember one hting the cultrue in the UK is no longer what it was to build the nation.. they are extremel distracted form work, i have worked in various fields, they love tea breaks, leavign early, going to pub lunches..? work people

Generalisation if ever I heard one...

btw, all my family are in the health service one way or another...so I think I know better than you and as for lunch breaks what the hell are they, Im lucky if I get time to pop out for a sandwich let alone a pub lunch!

Almost three quarters of newly qualified nurses are still searching for a permanent job months after graduating, a survey shows.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6063870.stm

this is from last year - I dont expect that 1000's of new places have been magiced out of a hat do you?????

So you see, we have enough of our own, we dont need anymore
lennyd  
9 Dec 2007 /  #49
the brits who dont work are our problem,

maybe there wouldn't be so many brits out of work if poles didn't steal their jobs since poland joined the eu and flooded into our small island the average brit has become worse off that's for sure
El Gato 4 | 351  
9 Dec 2007 /  #50
If is Poland sucha nice place

WTF are u saying???
lennyd  
9 Dec 2007 /  #51
the brits who dont work are our problem,

maybe there wouldn't be so many brits out of work if poles didn't steal their jobs since poland joined the eu and flooded into our small island the average brit has become worse off that's for sure
El Gato 4 | 351  
9 Dec 2007 /  #52
maybe there wouldn't be so many brits out of work if poles didn't steal their jobs

Or you could work harder? Maybe you could have went to Uni and had a better job, so that no dirty stinky Pole could ever steal it?

Racist bastard
irishdeano 5 | 304  
10 Dec 2007 /  #53
we were doing fine before the poles came, now there is concern that poles are filling jobs and taking away employment from school leavers etc.

if all the poles left britain we would be fine just like before the poles were here (which was only a couple Of years ago.

Are so arrogant to think that these polish migrants are holding the british economy (which is ne of the worlds strongest) together. we were fine before we let poland in the eu and we would be fine if they left.

that is a load of sh*t.. i live in northern ireland and in my studys we have had people come and talk about the work and if there was not the amount of other nationals the work would not be done... the amount of money by polish workers was 1.6 billion to the british government already and the year is not even over.....
Wroclaw Boy  
10 Dec 2007 /  #54
Hi All, ive just arrived back in Poland from my snowboarding holiday in the Czech Republic and I have to say i was impressed with the resort of Spinderluv Mlyn and the Czechs in general. I wish the Poles could take a note from their neighours and step up to the plate, I instantly noticed the change from Czech to Poland as soon as i crossed the border i.e miserable people staring, virtualy no one speaking English, poor towns, bad roads. I havent been out of Poland for 6 months and the last time was to Vegas so i didn't really think of making a comparison but having just come from a neighbouring country I am really beginning to wonder what the hell am I doing here!!

On the baby issue my Polish wife has made it clear she will never give birth in Poland and Im beginning to understand.

Dont know how much more of this shite I can take.
Filios1 8 | 1,336  
10 Dec 2007 /  #55
miserable people staring, virtualy no one speaking English?

May I please suggest you getting out of that country then? Poland doesn't need to change to that Nazi Czech Republic, and if you would know anything about Poland, then you would know Czechs are not well liked for how they treated the Germans during the war. And, it sure as hell doesn't need people like you.
Wroclaw 44 | 5,384  
10 Dec 2007 /  #56
I wish the Poles could take a note from their neighours and step up to the plate,

When it comes to skiing/snowboarding most Polish folks would probably agree.

then you would know Czechs are not well liked for how they treated the Germans during the war.

I think you'll find that young Polish skiers couldn't give a toss about the war. Especially in the evening when they are drinking Czech beer.
Wroclaw Boy  
10 Dec 2007 /  #57
May I please suggest you getting out of that country then?

Dont mention the war! I see you are a Pole Filios and I respect your patriotism. However Czech Republic is in my opion a better country than Poland for everything you see on the surface. I dont know about legal proceedings and other qualities of life my statement was merely an observation.

I wish the Poles could take a note from their neighbours and step up to the plate,

Hi Wroclaw. Have you been to any resorts in the Czech and my apologies if I ridiculed you a bit the other night, I was a little under the influence.

Hve to say though, Czech beer sucks - Polish is much more kindly to the pallet
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
10 Dec 2007 /  #58
Czech beer sucks

but the god of beer is czech... ;-)
Wroclaw 44 | 5,384  
10 Dec 2007 /  #59
Have you been to any resorts in the Czech

I don't ski or snowboard. But I know plenty people who go to the Czech Republic rather than the Polish mountains. It's no problem for people from Wroclaw. They often bring back a lot of beer too.

my apologies if I ridiculed you a bit the other night

It's forgotten
Wroclaw Boy  
10 Dec 2007 /  #60
god of beer is czech

Ahh Bubba I see your suspension has expired.

Yes, maybe it reminds me of LCL "Low Cost Lager" we used to buy it for £1.00 a pint 24/7 in the student bar around 1998. Get used to it after a while although the first couple slice through the palet like a razor blade.

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