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Anti-Polish sentiment of England


miranda  
6 Dec 2006 /  #31
that's very interesting. Could you provide as source of info regarding that, or perhaps a link - I would really appreciate it. Thnak you.
YANTA  
6 Dec 2006 /  #32
People need to stay put. Don't worry in 50 years when britain is no longer caucasian we will see who is fight about what. Most european countries have been subject to the lie of diversity and multicultralism. We need to have more children to replace ourselves. Look at places like germany and moreso SWEDEN with the islamic takover in at least 3 major cities. On the topic of islam , MUSLUMS have no PLACE in europe whatsoever. A muslum leader has recently said there will be 55 million muslums in europe in a shortwhile , soon it will come down to a takeover and europe with have to accept islam or declare war. Are you prepared to loose your culture? , loose your generations of traditions to a multicultural cess-pool? coem to think of it why did so many brave ones die fighting wars for europe? so it could all be flushed?.

On the britan side! GO NICK GRIFFIN!
Stupidwelsh  
6 Dec 2006 /  #33
A lot of brave died ‘fighting wars for Europe’ [sounds like we were all doing each other a favour for C sake, like we mowed the neighbours lawn while they were on holiday] fighting for their dieing Empires- which are now dead, but some times it seems somebody forgot to tell the Old Empires. A lot of others died because they ‘stayed put’.

As to ‘people staying put’- should the Irish stayed and died of starvation during the famine? Should the children of London stayed to be bombed to death in their homes, rather than escape to safer areas?
miranda  
6 Dec 2006 /  #34
We need to have more children to replace ourselves.

please don't
annamaria  
7 Dec 2006 /  #35
This is just one of articles related to this issue:

bbc.co.uk/london/content/articles/2006/11/01/emigration_deb ate_feature.shtml
Jasiu  
7 Dec 2006 /  #36
that's very interesting. Could you provide as source of info regarding that, or perhaps a link - I would really appreciate it. Thnak you.

ditto - thanks
annamaria  
7 Dec 2006 /  #37
The following are reports from the BBC and ITV Ceefax/Teletext services regarding newly released immigration statistics (which include details on the massive influx from eastern europe). I have shortened the ITV report (which follows that from BBC Ceefax) because it included information in it already covered by the report from the BBC:

1500 migrants arrived to live in the UK every day in 2005, official figures said. Government figures say that 185, 000 more people came to live in the UK in 2005 than did emigrate ? a population growth rate of 500 a day. The number coming to the UK is 17000 lower than the 2004 but immigration levels remain high. The number of eastern europeans arriving in the UK is up ? as is the number of people leaving the UK.

Source of above: BBC 1 Television Ceefax, analogue page 104, 2.11.2006 at 4.03 pm.

democracyforum.co.uk/about15459.html
Stupidwelsh  
7 Dec 2006 /  #38
This is just one of articles related to this issue

I can’t see anything in that article that relates to Polish living in the UK or anti- Slavic [I’ll use that term as there are plenty of Slovakians etc working in the UK also] sentiment.

London has been at breaking point for decades, back in the 1950’s the pollution there used to kill people. The guy is saying London is overcrowded, the housing is too expensive, and transport is a mess- it’s been like that for hundreds of years, we can’t blame the Polish workers for that- maybe blame the Central Government policies that successive governments supported that created a situation where London is the centre of the universe for the average UK politician.

Lots of UK citizens are leaving the UK, just as lots of Polish people are coming to the UK- and they are doing it for the same reasons, in the hope of a better quality of life.

The UK has lots of problems, and the least of them is the population of Polish nationals living here- most educated people know that. If we removed every person who couldn’t prove British citizenship back 3 generations then our economy would collapse, only the ignorant don’t know that- they are ‘grist to the mill’ for the BNP.

If you aren’t happy in the UK, the great thing about EU citizenship is you have plenty of other choices, learn a foreign language, learn a skill that‘s in demand, get a work ethic- I don’t think we need a politician to write a book explaining those for us?
ANIAH  - | 60  
7 Dec 2006 /  #39
YANTA, dear I think you are on the wrong forum. Poland is Catholic not Muslim.

If you want to spout your anti Muslim propaganda go visit a Muslim forum.

The BNP is a stupid party who will never get into power, they are using people's fear of the unknown and people's insecurities to propel themselves into power and fame.
Stupidwelsh  
7 Dec 2006 /  #40
No it would be like how some people interpret their religion’s guidance- it’s human nature to fear what we can’t or are unwilling to understand, God understands everything, he wants us to be like him, without fear.

That’s the same with all religions and moral codes- enlightenment and release from fear. Without fear the BNP is unable to justify itself, the same can be said for all extremists.
annamaria  
7 Dec 2006 /  #41
If you aren?t happy in the UK, the great thing about EU citizenship is you have plenty of other choices, learn a foreign language, learn a skill that?s in demand, get a work ethic- I don?t think we need a politician to write a book explaining those for us?

The point I was making is that British people are emigrating in search of better life, which means that the ethnic make-up of the nation is changing: non-British people arrive, while Brits leave. Whether that's good or bad is a subject for another discussion.
Stupidwelsh  
7 Dec 2006 /  #42
The ‘ethnic make up’ has been changing since the Celts arrived in Britain, and possibly before that.
YANTA  
7 Dec 2006 /  #43
The BNP is a stupid party who will never get into power, they are using people's fear of the unknown and people's insecurities to propel themselves into power and fame.

Goes to show just how brainwashed some of you are. The BNP is the third largest party in the UK and has elected officials. Have you ever heard nick griffins speeches? he is a smart man who cares for britan YES the people who worked hard and built the country. There has also been a major rise in BNP popularity. Now why can't others do the same in there own countries?

Have a look at this article

guardian.co.uk/racism/Story/0,2763,363783,00.html

But thats ok when your all forced into islam you can cry later. BTW alote of you can't even comment on how great multicultralism is because YOU don't live it everyday. Don't sit here and blab about how great diversity is until you acutally live it for years rather then watching programs on TV and such.

lease move this to the IDIOT FAQ, it's my birthday

why dont you go through all my posts in this thread and explain , how and why I am wrong. That way you can justify your idiot response.
Stupidwelsh  
7 Dec 2006 /  #44
I don't mean to upset you, only for people to question themselves
uk_  8 | 85  
7 Dec 2006 /  #45
Poles i know rent property and dont rely on state handouts

In your dream... so far 40 million british pound ( tax payer money) given to polish peoples as benefit, 7,000 polish children born this year only in UK.
Huegel  1 | 296  
7 Dec 2006 /  #46
source?
Amathyst  19 | 2700  
7 Dec 2006 /  #48
7,000 polish children born this year only in UK.

And as long as the parents are working and contributing to the system whats the problem?? Howmany children are born in Spain to English parents?? how many in other European countries....please get me these figures
Huegel  1 | 296  
7 Dec 2006 /  #49
thanks for the link hello :)

Daily Mail...hmm Wasn't that the favoured read of Oswald Mosley? :)
Stupidwelsh  
7 Dec 2006 /  #50
UK quoted from the Daily Mail so it must be true, all leave the country now, because he is wot is correct
Jasiu  
8 Dec 2006 /  #51
7,000 polish children born this year only in UK.

that would make them british then...
ANIAH  - | 60  
8 Dec 2006 /  #52
But thats ok when your all forced into islam you can cry later. BTW alote of you can't even comment on how great multicultralism is because YOU don't live it everyday.

YANTA, it is you who is brainwashed.

As for not living in a multicultural society, I have lived in the UK for the past 30 years. ?????? What is your point? Do you not benefit from living in a multicultural society as well?? Do you not have Indian takeaways when out with your mates? Do you not appreciate the help you get from doctors and medical staff of Asian or otherwise origin?

Can you honestly say that you have never met any interesting, worthwhile people who happened not to be of British origin/white? Do you think people should be judged upon their nationality, colour etc. or rather on their personal values, intelligence, character?

The main problem I have with the BNP party is that it spreads hate and intolerance. It is basically like this: if you are white and your grandma and grandpa have been born British then you are one of us. If the answer to the above question is no then you are one of them.

BTW I also saw that article in the Daily Mail and it was 5,000 not 7,000 according to the paper. Secondly, being born in Britain does not make anyone automatically British. To have British citizenship one parent must be British and the parents must be married.

I think you will find that the overwhelming majority of these babies were born to parents whose both parents were Polish. I guess the reason they had them here rather than in Poland was because whilst living in Poland they could not afford to expand their families. Over here, they have work and they can perhaps see a future for themselves.
dulciana  - | 28  
8 Dec 2006 /  #53
It's so amusing (and perhaps a little sad) to see so much "prjudice" being expressed about so many things.

Tha fact is, we are all prejudiced in some way or other, and that is because no-one can ever have he total picture or possess infinite knowledge: fear of the unknown being the end result.

Since time began people have migrated, and it is hardly a new phenomenon. How many Poles are part German, part Russian, part Slavic or part anything?

How many British people are truly English.....none perhaps?

Even the UK Royal Family is of German origin, while England itself is the product of a French invasion.

Contrary to what Hitler and the BNP (is there a difference?) proposed or propose, there is simply no such thing as a pure bred human being. Even culture is multi-lingual and multi-ethnic, and always has been.

How many supporters of the BNP would support the idea of a "Christian" country, which derives from Roman/Greek/Judaic origins, with a lot of medieval RC and Reformation influence included?

I am, of course, appalled by the idea of 7,000 baby Poles being born in the UK this year. How would I identify them, so that they can be "sent home" in due course? Do they have Eagle birth-marks, or are they the only ones who are actually delivered by migrating Storks? Perhaps they all have blond hair and blue eyes and little almond shape faces? (Sounds fun to me!) Will they automatically speak only Polish, and steal the cribs in the hospitals from British babies? Will their parents receive more or less in the way of child support? Will they go to English schools, and grow up as English teenagers, or will they live in a ghetto and steal pretty English girls (or boys). When they go to work, will they pay taxes to support only a Polish community, or will they be supporting the NHS, the economy, the elderly and British business? Will they have English friends, fall in love and be good citizens? God forbid, would any of them join the military and become a fifth column?

The simple fact is, the supporters of the BNP are almost always stupid, almost always uneducated, almost always bullies and almost unversally losers.
ANIAH  - | 60  
8 Dec 2006 /  #54
no, no, no, it's 5,000 not 7,000

And yes most Polish babies are blond with blue eyes and little almond faces. But babies are just gorgeous whatever their origin.:)
Hobbitual  
8 Dec 2006 /  #55
And yes most Polish babies are blond with blue eyes and little almond faces. But babies are just gorgeous whatever their origin.

Babies are not programmed whatever their origin.
Their guardians (and with it their values) are what poison the these "cute babies".
In Palestine in particular, hate (not intellect or dialog by example) is top of the agenda.
Before you (or anyone else) bleats on about Israel's oppression, at least let your child be just that, before giving them a gun fresh out of nursery.

Don't worry ANIAH, your naivity/denial prevents you from understanding the stark depths regarding the mind of men.
annamaria  
8 Dec 2006 /  #56
that would make them british then...

If both parents have Polish citizenship and they don't have "indefinite leave to remain", then a baby born in the UK is actually a Polish, not British subject. So no, not British, as Britain doesn't have the same law as the US, where if you are born there, you have the right to citizenship. In the UK, it is parentage that's important.

[quote=Stupidwelsh, Post #54 ]The ?ethnic make up? has been changing since the Celts arrived in Britain, and possibly before that.

Yes, of course, however, the difference in recent years is that it is changing due to emigration as well as immigration. It used to be mainly immigration. The British are currently not very happy- they are on 42nd place in happiness stakes, according to an international study, well behind Germans, Americans, or the French. But I digress, sorry.
dulciana  - | 28  
8 Dec 2006 /  #57
If both parents have Polish citizenship and they don't have "indefinite leave to remain", then a baby born in the UK is actually a Polish, not British subject.

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This is true, but if Europe means anything, it doesn't really matter does it?

Europe is a great place to be on the whole, and is proving economically very strong. With more or less open borders, actual nationality is becoming less important as time goes by.
YANTA  
8 Dec 2006 /  #58
Multicultralism is a failure.. think what you want. I don't benefit by haveing third worlders come here and ram their religions and cultre down my throat. I rarely see a doctor (who happens to be german) because I never get sick. I eat euro foods nothing else. Pay ATTENTION TO RUSSIAS ways. They are the future of europe. I'm glad you loving your cess-pool of britan you clearly have no pride or respect for your own culture and would rather see it changed and spat on by third world asylum seekers. In 50 years arabic will be your national language and there wont be a fish and chip restaraunt in sight. Keep on living the liberal dream it all adds up to nothing when you're social services and welfare colapse.

The main problem I have with the BNP party is that it spreads hate and intolerance. It is basically like this: if you are white and your grandma and grandpa have been born British then you are one of us. If the answer to the above question is no then you are one of them.

Oh shut up "hate and intolerance" my butt. People like you argue for things that make no sense. Even when facts are shoved in your face you choose to sheild it with the liberal sunglasses and call it "racism or fascism". "I posted facts!" , dosent matter your now a nazi!!! , "but my facts are correct" , " sorry those facts are racist"

give me a break.
truebrit  3 | 196  
9 Dec 2006 /  #59
Goes to show just how brainwashed some of you are. The BNP is the third largest party in the UK and has elected officials

You seem very confused...the 3 largest parties in the UK are:Labour,Conservative and Liberal Democrat.You really need to educate yourself.
YANTA  
9 Dec 2006 /  #60
politics.guardian.co.uk/elections/story/0,,948032,00.html (old)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party

On May 5, 2006, the results of the 2006 local elections were reported by the BBC and showed what some described as a dramatic increase for the BNP. The party presented about 350 candidates, of which 33 were initially declared to be winners: the second highest gain of any party in the elections. This more than doubled the number of seats held by the BNP (before the elections, the BNP was estimated to have held about 20 local political seats). Also noteworthy is the fact that the constituency of Barking and Dagenham became, according to many newspapers, the first council in the United Kingdom to have the BNP as the second-biggest party [21]. However, the BNP were briefly the second largest party on Burnley Council in 2003.

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