The un-acceptable side of new entrant countries coming to the UK

OK well you are entitled to your views.. and I dont profess to know those kind of people.. however, Britains investment in overseas affairs is one thing and stating that the only way forward is for everyone to become a British citizen as everyone will ultimately be answering to us is quite another. You are sounding a bit like Hitler.

Im just telling you what i beleive is the truth, it's the way myself and others see the future. The real hitlers are the people at the top who have the most money, they are the ones making the big decisions, not me.

What you do with your life is entirely upto you but it's naive to think Poland isn't affected by foreign investment. I can already see changes in the Polish market.

Thanks for the link to the Stock exchange site. I know it quite well already!

Try globalbritain.org/BNN/BN46.doc

Also answers another point from someone that the Uk is the biggest trading nation.

The words sea change come to mind if your prediction is going to come true. But hey, you may have insider information:)

what kind of changes Lee?

im sure it is... think you should move to the 'foreigners buying polish land' thread

I'm not talking about the property market, I'm talking about outsourcing.


szarlotka, I never said the UK was the biggest trading nation. The UK economy was almost obliterated after the war. But the UK's economic growth combined with it's political worldwide ties means we are at a much bigger advantage when compared to Germany. We are intervowen into America and the Commonwealth countries, Eastern Europe is the next peice to the puzzle.

For me this whole debate is centered around the point i am trying to re-iterate and that is that nothing in this world is free.

When it comes to Eastern / Western Europe it's all about give and take and long as the giving part doesn't involve germans I'm happy.

If you read it again you would note that I said that someone else had said it Lee. And all you say above I concur with. I was disputing your 20 year claim that's all because I don't believe it. Look at the IMF/World bank inward and ouward FDI figures. Even if British companies do remarkably well and you are right and I am wrong, a casual look at the share ownership registers of our major companies would show where the profits will go to.

What bizarre ideas Lee has.

England uber alles - surely not! Chyba ze mnie kpisz.

It's a wind-up ... that is unless he has some strange notions about international capitalism being an "Anglo-Saxon" plot. Sure, the US rules supreme economically (unless you view it as literally bankrupt) and they have business links worldwide linked by the profit motive ... but so what?

I need clarification,
Confused, of Tunbridge Wells.

Is that Tunbridge Wells next to Praga?:)

I think Lee has bypassed the facts, establish the conclusions steps and gone straight to the recommendations step. If he is in Financial Services he should get out now and move in to politics:)

The problem is the name - "Lee".

Britain, being the class-ridden country it is, has a number of class-based habits. One of these is the tendency of low-class people to choose certain names.

Worse still, there is a very strong correlation between low-class English people especially and educational under-achievement.

Hence, when I see the name "Lee" I know what I'm in for ...

rogerdarlington.co.uk/useofnames.html#FIN


[He should have included "Lee" too.]

Great Varsovian you should title it "How to make friends and influence people."

Noone choose what class they are born into and I hate snobs.

Thats a great attitude! what are you basing this on? would love to know what your real name is?

Give me a little bit of time and I could dig out loads of educational research into this. It is the biggest educational problem in the UK.

dont bother, Im not interested in a load of statistics about school performance. Its clear to me that you dont adhere to the rule.

sociology.org.uk/tece1ed.htm

Here's an intelligent quick insight into working-class under-achievement in UK education.

It's actually an enormous subject and, of course, highly political. Recently, universities have started to introduce a points system (very much like the Communists had in Poland) based on your social background, so that middle-class applicants could be discriminated against.

Yes there is a problem with under achievement in UK education. The state schools and particulalry those in deprived inner city areas have the worst problems and in general it is children from lower income families who attend those schools.

Also your list of names earlier and the URL you referenced are a broad indication of naming that occurs in the UK.

Your mistake was in joining these two together to leap to conclusion that "I have a lower class name therefore I must be poorly educated" The most intelligent person I have ever known was called Wayne. I myself was born in the poorest area of Liverpool but I have just about the most unusual Christian name of all time and have mutiple degrees.

Non sequiturs?

Nah! Tendencies are simply that, nothing more.
Lee fits the rule this time, though.

Not sure he does. All I can say is that he made an extravgant claim that he cannot or could not substantiate. I'm a strickler for reasoned argument and wild fanciful "I heard it from the guy down the pub" claims leave me cold. Anyway maybe he will come back with some more.

Varsovian,

Thank you for the name link. I can see my family name breeding its way across the country over the last century but frighteningly, they branch out into the Hebrides and Wales; some very wild oats being sown there obviously.

My first name is also very short, and was chosen for no greater reason than my older brother became an instant diminutive, so I was restricted to three letters to prevent a similar occurence.

What happens to Lee in Poland where nicknames get longer - Leeovitchowka?

Lee in Poland ...

I've never met a Lee here, strangely.

Names are interesting, but in the final analysis it's all about dead people you have little in common with - it's better trying to get on with your living family before we all become mere names ourselves on crumbling tombstones somewhere.

That is, not crumbling tombstones in Poland. Here, they generally uproot old tombs and recycle the plot. God only knows what they do with the skeletons. Does anybody out there know anything about this, or do I have to get buried under an oak tree somewhere to stop my body from being disinterred by latter-day Burkes and Hares in cassocks?

go for cremation it's much more environment-friendly

Hmmm, the popular names these days "amongst the lower classes" are Harry and Charlie, not sure the Royal family would agree with your comments!

Prince Harry...lol How does everyone in the UK feel about this bloke? Seems like he's always in the tabloids grabbing boobs or something.

I think he's okay, but not really acting like a royal should at the end of the day they are not normal people and will never have normal lives - its strange the way the two boys are going to marry (or looks that way) commoners!

i dont think you will find they (the girlfriends) are that 'common'.. they may not be titled, but both were born into affluent upper class families.. the same as Princess Diana was. C'mon they are hardly going to marry a working class girl are they?

You've got to be loaded to be in the "right crowd".

The British Conservative Party at the moment is an extreme case in point - 11 of Dave Cameron's cronies are from Eton.

(Great school, by the way)