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"EU Politicians Angered By Polish Chemical Castration Plan"


outintheyard  27 | 517  
26 Sep 2008 /  #31
I still feel laws should be stricter

O much in so many places. I wish you this was not true but obviously it is and the laws should be tougher that is for sure No use for this in society. I bet the internet doesn't help either with all the porn available getting these freaks turned on to actually do it. Get rid of any of this junk on the net the Wold has no use for this.
lesser  4 | 1311  
26 Sep 2008 /  #32
This is such a sad thread to even think of this kind of thing going on Is it a problem in Poland?

Simply people in mass media know that many people listen such idiotic stories, thus they provide them these stories. If number of deviants raising, this is only because media coverage.

While Tusk apparently have new PR tactic. Think, how many people thought that he demands real castration for pedophiles. One should write that he mentioned aside that 'death penalty is not far from his views' and only international obligations force them to abandon this idea. On some issues people in Poland have some common sense, thus these comments could increase his popularity.
outintheyard  27 | 517  
26 Sep 2008 /  #33
international obligations

I would like to seefar less of these words in Poland and more do what is right without the rest
celinski  31 | 1258  
26 Sep 2008 /  #34
I bet the internet doesn't help either with all the porn available getting these freaks turned on to actually do it.

Alot of this have to do with the almighty buck, sex sells. Setting standards in society has never been easy.

[quote=lesser}If number of deviants raising, this is only because media coverage. [/quote]

Chances are the numbers are the same, it's the people are feeling safer to report.
lesser  4 | 1311  
26 Sep 2008 /  #35
I would like to seefar less of these words in Poland and more do what is right without the rest

Unfortunately there is permanent lack of free minds in power in Poland. Once imposed slave's mentality is very hard to remove.
outintheyard  27 | 517  
26 Sep 2008 /  #36
Once imposed slave's mentality is very hard to remove

That is the root of the problem. maybe the young educated will stay and try fixing this. Someone will come along There is hope.
southern  73 | 7059  
26 Sep 2008 /  #37
So the pedo party will be renamed to castrated party,or the pary of lost heaven?
jonni  16 | 2475  
26 Sep 2008 /  #38
In the USA we do have ways of tracking the offenders. Do you have this in Poland yet? I can search any area and see where they reside after released.

They also cannot live near schools, work that puts them in contact with children and many cannot have contact with children under 18 years of age.

Unfortunately the tracking idea would need a big change of law in Poland, due to very strong privacy laws. Newspapers can't even print the surnames of people convicted - they can only say, for example Jan K, or ks Piotr Z.

Also the rules about who can work with children are extremely primitive. In UK when the system of checks was introduced there were massive delays and a few sad mistakes. In Poland all that is needed is a Certyficat Niekaralnosci (and not always that!!), which can unfortunately be obtained in small towns by bribery.

It would be a good idea to have a Europe-wide (if not worldwide) system though, due to increased mobility of workers, perhaps based on the American system, perhaps a combination of that and the UK system. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. In the UK, they can say that a paedophile lives in your area, but they very rarely name them. This has led to people being attacked by lowlife, just for being a bit weird, while the real paedophile goes unnoticed. Some say the US system forces them to go underground. There must be a system that's foolproof.
loco polaco  3 | 352  
26 Sep 2008 /  #39
In the USA we do have ways of tracking the offenders. Do you have this in Poland yet? I can search any area and see where they reside after released.

They also cannot live near schools, work that puts them in contact with children and many cannot have contact with children under 18 years of age.

yes, that's fine and dandy but it's basically an honor system and it only works when these offenders are honest.. many are not. in my state, vesides their name and addy you can actually see their picture. it's all on the web too.

Get rid of any of this junk on the net the Wold has no use for this.

obviously millions do have use for it.

So the pedo party will be renamed to castrated party,or the pary of lost heaven?

nambla.. look it up.

It would be a good idea to have a Europe-wide (if not worldwide) system though, due to increased mobility of workers, perhaps based on the American system,

it's not really a system and i feel it's kind of hardly worth it.
jonni  16 | 2475  
26 Sep 2008 /  #40
I think you're largely right. But there has to be some kind of system. There was that awful story (findable on the internet I suppose) about the guy from Poland who came to work in the UK. For his job he needed a police check and they accepted a Certyfikat NiekaralnosciÄ… from his local police station in Poland. He raped 2 (or maybe 3 - I forget) women. It turned out he'd been in prison in Poland for rape, and got the Certyfikat by bribing somebody here.

There must be a way to stop this. Reminds me of that paedophile from Canada who was arrested in Thailand working as a teacher.

No method can ever be foolproof, but with computerised records we have a chance to make a good one.
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
26 Sep 2008 /  #41
Newspapers can't even print the surnames of people convicted - they can only say, for example Jan K,

Wrong.
jonni  16 | 2475  
26 Sep 2008 /  #42
Today, 18:55 Report #41

jonni:
Newspapers can't even print the surnames of people convicted - they can only say, for example Jan K,

Wrong.

Interesting! Rather than a one word gainsaying, perhaps you can show a link about this. Other than the infamous Tomczak and Rywin of course. All I ever see is Marek W or Slawomir Z. Even the notorious cases about the paedophile choirmaster in Poznan, the 'renowned' child psychologist in Warsaw and the predatory priest in Dworzec Centralny only seemed to publicise their initials.
z_darius  14 | 3960  
26 Sep 2008 /  #43
Unfortunately the tracking idea would need a big change of law in Poland, due to very strong privacy laws.

Change would not have to be big. We're talking only about pedophiles here.

Newspapers can't even print the surnames of people convicted - they can only say, for example Jan K, or ks Piotr Z.

Really? So who is Andrzej Samson or Wojciech Krollop?
jonni  16 | 2475  
27 Sep 2008 /  #44
Really?

So who is Andrzej Samson?
or Wojciech Krollop?

The Krollop case is so well known that it became publicised. Who is Dariusz P, convicted in a shocking case in my city this year. Try and get his surname. And the Krollop and Samson cases had all but finished before their full names got to the internet!
Wroclaw Boy  
3 Nov 2008 /  #45
You cant knock the Germans for attention to detail..... This pic was taken at a German filling station some where near Munchen. Dog bikkies anyone? Yes please, says sherlock!


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