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"EU Politicians Angered By Polish Chemical Castration Plan"


Bratwurst Boy 5 | 10,258  
25 Sep 2008 /  #1
Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk wants to pass a law that would impose "chemical castration" on pedophiles. Politicians at the European Parliament in Brussels have raised their objections to the proposal, but there is little the EU can do to stop it.

Well...I'm with you in this regard!
The little ones are the most vulnerables and rely on us to protect them.

It happens in Germany that generous laws rather protect the predators than the victims, even so that condemned offenders can do it again after just barely getting a slap on the wrist for their unspeakable crimes before!

84 Percent of Poles Support Tusk's Plan

spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,580284,00.html

I think you would get similiar numbers in Germany...
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
25 Sep 2008 /  #2
Well...I'm with you in this regard!

Me too!

don't know what their objections are all about, at the moment it is an "option" for a sex offender to have this in most countries in europe, Poland are taking a firm stance and saying - "you are having it" Hopefully more will follow.

The little ones are the most vulnerables and rely on us to protect them.

I think this kind of things should be across the board on ALL sex offenders - not just pedos
OP Bratwurst Boy 5 | 10,258  
25 Sep 2008 /  #3
I think this kind of things should be across the board on ALL sex offenders - not just pedos

Yup

Who can't control it is not worth to have it!
jonni 16 | 2,485  
25 Sep 2008 /  #4
Unfortunately, there's some evidence that it doesn't work - in fact it can make paedophiles worse. The type of paedophile who gets their kicks by hurting children are apparently made even worse by chemical or physical castration.

It would be a dangerous move and probably achieve the opposite effect to that intended.
OP Bratwurst Boy 5 | 10,258  
25 Sep 2008 /  #5
It would be a dangerous move and probably achieve the opposite effect to that intended.

Any links to support that?

Most instincts (in animals and humans alike) are generated and controlled by hormones, the difference being that humans have a mind to control them and not to act on them just like that.

Surgical operations can make sure to stop producing such hormones and therefore stopping the development of certain instincts in the first place, that is a medicinical fact!
mbiernat 3 | 107  
25 Sep 2008 /  #6
at first when I heard this law I thought it was crazy, but you know what, we have to protect the kids not the people who do these crimes, so maybe its not a bad idea. Kids are innocent and should remain that way. I think people who do these crimes have little chance to reform. Maybe I am wrong...but chemical castrastion would work.
outintheyard 27 | 517  
25 Sep 2008 /  #7
I wish the US would consider this. The only problem any where is there better be guilt beyond reasonable doubt or someone is not going to be very happy.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
25 Sep 2008 /  #8
The whole "chemical castration" is a total crap. I thought that Tusk was talking about normal castration and these are some pills... pervs must take them all the time and once you let them out of prison, there's no way to control If they really do that.
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
25 Sep 2008 /  #9
I wish the US would consider this.

It does! It's been in operation for quite some years.

pervs must take them all the time and once you let them out of prison, there's no way to control If they really do that.

These perverts would be on a sex offenders register and hopefully there would be some way of monitoring them, maybe a law would state it was a condition of them be released from prison but you're right there is no guarantee that they would take it, we could just kill all the perverts?
loco polaco 3 | 353  
25 Sep 2008 /  #10
this won't do **** just like the death penalty doesn't discourage anyone.
Patrycja19 63 | 2,700  
25 Sep 2008 /  #11
Me too!

I think it will greatly reduce the crime against children if they know that the
sentence is castoration.. if they dont they are definately in need of psycho
drs ... and locked away for life.
Daisy 3 | 1,227  
25 Sep 2008 /  #12
Castration and lock them up and throw away the key
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
25 Sep 2008 /  #13
death penalty doesn't discourage anyone.

Prove It.

I think it will greatly reduce the crime against children if they know that the
sentence is castoration..

Yes, that would definately help but in this case we're not talking about real castration but "chemical castration", which is just taking pills to reduce sexual needs.
Daisy 3 | 1,227  
25 Sep 2008 /  #14
My uncle uses rubber bands on his billy goat kids, works for them
Patrycja19 63 | 2,700  
25 Sep 2008 /  #15
Yes, that would definately help but in this case we're not talking about real castration but "chemical castration", which is just taking pills to reduce sexual needs.

wow, well that isnt going to do any good. I say burn it off with a torch!! that will take care of any sexual need for a long time!!
outintheyard 27 | 517  
25 Sep 2008 /  #16
I say burn it off with a torch

I say put you in charge of the torch! I did not realize until Shelley posted something that the curreent pill thing is not long term. Diasy has a cheap and effective method wich would save on torch gas No matter the method , The crime needs to be stopped with all severity.
loco polaco 3 | 353  
25 Sep 2008 /  #17
I think it will greatly reduce the crime against children if they know that the
sentence is castoration.. if they dont they are definately in need of psycho
drs ... and locked away for life.

read my post above.. since when was the electric chair a deturrant? it's not neither will be castration.

Prove It.

prove it? just look at the crime statistics in the USA. You can look at TX if you want to narrow your search. they kill more prisoners there then the rest of USA put together and their crime is very, very high. death penalty has 0 influence on crime numbers.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paedophilia is a psychological issue thus cutting of anything will not do a damn thing against it.
Patrycja19 63 | 2,700  
25 Sep 2008 /  #18
msnbc.msn.com/id/4038249/

I will gladly hold the torch as will a great deal of others..

grown adults have no business touching babies.. I think we shouldn't stop
at the torch..
dnz 17 | 710  
25 Sep 2008 /  #19
Great idea but introducing the death penalty for these sick bastards would most definitely stop them re offending.
OP Bratwurst Boy 5 | 10,258  
25 Sep 2008 /  #20
Chemical first, torch later! :)
noimmigration  
25 Sep 2008 /  #21
You CANNOT reform or rehabilitate peadophiles. Sexual perversion is something that is psychologically imprinted into someone. Usually from an early age. It is not something that can be treated or cured.

I dont know if this is a valid example, But I am hetrosexual, That is my orientation, can my hetrosexuality be removed from treatment or rehabilitation. ?
lesser 4 | 1,311  
25 Sep 2008 /  #22
this won't do **** just like the death penalty doesn't discourage anyone.

Both are punishments for crimes and whether this discourage people or not, this is issue of second importance.
Daisy 3 | 1,227  
25 Sep 2008 /  #23
is a psychological issue thus cutting of anything will not do a damn thing against it.

So chop thier arms and legs off as well, just to be on the safe side
Franek 8 | 271  
25 Sep 2008 /  #24
read my post above.. since when was the electric chair a deturrant? i

When his a** is burned. He will no longer be around to repeat his perversion. BURN BABY BURN
Filios1 8 | 1,336  
25 Sep 2008 /  #25
Heres an idea...
Put them in the gas chamber if they re-offend, after being castrated...
jonni 16 | 2,485  
25 Sep 2008 /  #26
Any links to support that?

usatoday.com/news/opinion/columnists/wickham/2001-09-04-wickham.htm
springerlink.com/content/1k2075t17003v275/
celinski 31 | 1,258  
26 Sep 2008 /  #28
In the USA we do have ways of tracking the offenders. Do you have this in Poland yet? I can search any area and see where they reside after released.

They also cannot live near schools, work that puts them in contact with children and many cannot have contact with children under 18 years of age.
outintheyard 27 | 517  
26 Sep 2008 /  #29
This is such a sad thread to even think of this kind of thing going on Is it a problem in Poland? I know it is huge in farm country in the US
celinski 31 | 1,258  
26 Sep 2008 /  #30
I know it is huge in farm country in the US

This is not true as far as where the problem in US is. In fact it is not an isolated problem and it hits all income levels. Treatment that has been most effective is medication along with mandatory therpy. I still feel laws should be stricter, today the max time for this offense is 10 years served, mandatory reporting (see megan's law).

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