POLES STILL NEED VISAS TO THE U.S.A!!

You are an over sensitive soul aren't you !!!
People have a prefect right to criticize the USA the same as any other country if they feel there is an injustice.
And to carpet it as racialism is kind of childish.
And by the way, don't you think you should change your profile if you are going to stay here ???

Criticize all you want. Just don't be a baby when you get it back.

And there is a clear difference between criticism and "f@#k the USA"

I didn't have a problem with anyone here until I started getting blamed for Poland's inadequacies and hypocrisies by people with nothing better to do than be arses.

No I think my profile is fine...it still applies to people like you. But thanks for asking.

Then build your own Missile Defense Shield and pay for it yourself. Or go back to be a Russkie Republic.

If it was up to me, the US taxpayers wouldn't have to pay for the European defense. I see no reason for me to have to pay for your defense out of my pocket. As it stands for now I pay for it out of my taxes. And then to make it even worse I have to hear from you winning about it.

In a way, we both agree on one point: the European Missile Defense Shield is a bad idea. You don't like it because it's American, I don't like it because I have to pay for it.

I sincerely hope that all this discussion will become irrelevant soon when the next administration will back off from these moronic plans and have other countries spend their own money on their own defense. We would not have to argue about it then :)

The thing is that no one in Poland wants it here and it was only pressure from the USA government that persuaded the Polish government to have it.

The original plan was to protect the USA from nuclear attack from rouge states but when they found that this was unpopular they quickly changed the wording to European defense shield. But everyone knows that this is a political act rather than any actual defense role, and just designed for America to flex it's muscles towards Russia.

In all the time that this has been going on I have never met one European who is in agreement with this plan.

That's another big misconception that the US media and government managed to put into some, even smart, heads.

Without the US lending or giving away money and creating DEBT the US would go bankrupt overnight. It is only creation of debt that still allows the US to breathe. Notice the US is looking for any occasion to lend money or even give it away for free to keep the US dollar the global currency. Recently they gave 1B to Georgia to "rebuild their infrastructure." Not to mention a dozen of billions to "rebuild Iraq." And, of course, the US tax payers are paying for that.

Now you ask your senator what about YOUR country's infrastructure? Do they care and worry they spend OUR (American) money from our taxes to keep this sick and fraudulent global banking system alive? Either way, this system is due to crash in this century as it is impossible to keep it any longer.

Just want to point out that Prime Minister Harper took down the visas for Poles travelling to Canada this year. Proportionally Canada has just as many Poles living here just as America does. The standard of living is better in Canada than in America and Poles do stay here illegally as well. Didn't stop Canada from abolishing visa requirements. Now Polish students can travel here for student exchange programs and Poles can travel here for business without a hassle.

But do they have as many ILLEGALS proportionately? I don't have figures but I bet no.

And the standard of living comment is subjective and yet another attempt to get your digs in at the USA. You have your mind made up and refuse to acknowledge the cause. It is much easier to blame the USA.

Not really tired. I do love America and Americans. My reasons of returning are strictly personal. And I am here, living and working in Los Angeles, legally since day one. I have never broken the law in my life.

But there are things that p!ss me off and I am tired of, that's true.

Far and away the dumbest crap ever said on these Forums.. Figures your ridiculous Limey american-bashing a,ss has said it. Yes of course, the US made the Poles accept the shield. the Poles had no say in it. WTF? You are a jerk off pure and simple.

You really are not that bright are you !!!
You agree with my post and fill the rest of it with racial insults... Who said I was bashing Americans, certainly not myself.
You seem to have a real problem with British people and I really do not know what your insecurity is... Still I guess the world needs people like you to make the others feel better about themselves.

Have a good day ;0)

Hypocrite...he insults you and you insult him. Just because you do it in a different way doesn't make you better.

Have a good day.

Don't even start me with you gtd, as you are one of the biggest hypocrites on this site and have no place as a moralistic judge.

hypocrite!!!

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Your opinion doesn't equal fact ukpolska....but keep trying for the high ground.

The difference between me and the majority of posters here is that when asked for information I don't make things up or post sarcastic responses because I am bored. It seems to be 'cool' to insult people and screw with them as a first contact.

I would have not had a problem at all had I not been given a bunch of nonsensical info that made things more difficult and then had to endure being blamed for the problems rather than the real cause. Just like the visa waiver thing...it is so much easier to blame others than those responsible for the problem.

That is the hypocrisy.

gtd, no one was making up information, they were just relaying information that they heard from other people in trying to help you, and you jumped out of your pram and became offended when no one could give you the answer you required.

But what can you expect from a forum for christs sake, it is a mixture of different people with different opinions and experiences.

I don't like making enemies, life is too short for that, however I will react to a post like Wahldo's where it didn't warrant the response he made.

Time to bury the hatchet, don't you think??

Stop saying nonsensical things and consider it buried. I didn't jump out of my pan because nobody could help me. I jumped out of my pan because people were making things up(yes people do that often rather than say they don't know), relaying things they heard from a guy from a guy, and rather than admitting the system is a mess they blamed me.

If you aren't positive about things like this you shouldn't say anything as you can cause people real problems if they rely on it. These myths about what you can and can't do are perpetuated because of rumor shilling gobbymouths (is that a word?) that spew this junk. That may seem rude of me to you but I get incredibly sick of not being able to get valid information on important things because of this. It's not just in this forum...hell even people in official office here do this. They don't know the rules and they tell you what they "heard" or they make something up.

Case in point...I was told repeatedly (different people different visits) in the labor office I could not set up a one man business here without 50,000pln in capital and a various other stupid requirements depending on who I was talking to. They INSISTED I was lying or wrong when I mentioned loads of other foreigners have done it so there must be a way. Nope...I was wrong they said and would not help me on their end. So...I go to the Gmina where you register a company and they said "sure no problem" and it took all of 5 minutes to apply...not saying I will get approved but despite what they work office insisted it IS possible and you do NOT need to meet those requirements. But no matter who I spoke with in that office they insisted otherwise despite reality being the opposite...but if someone didn't KNOW they were wrong they would be at a dead end.

None of that is my issue...it is theirs...but it does cause me a problem. Once people stop messing about and making things more difficult by spreading false information I will stop flying out of my pan. It chaps my arse when people blame me for their or their country's shortcomings as if I am the one doing something wrong...and you get plenty of that here. I would NEVER blame a Pole for being irritated by the US immigration paperwork debacle...it's not their fault and it is not always straightforward. Now the visa free things caused by illegals is a different issue.

And I will say the only reason I knew to go to the Gmina was due to Harry (British expat) from this board who explained what I should do. He was spot on and to the T correct in what to do.

Criticizing an aspect of a country or a culture is not the same as saying that country or culture is evil or sucks. There are lots of things about the USA that aren't great and I will nod in agreement. But Poles seem to be often unwilling to do the same and rather make excuses or blame you.

Well if you had contacted Harry in the first place as I suggested then none of this would have happened would it.
Try reading the posts a bit better in future, and that's friendly advice not sarcastic.

P.S. How do you know Harry is British ??

everybody knows harry is british

Jesus...you just have to come out on top don't you. "if you had just done as I said".

Separate me finding the info from people giving it poorly if you can...it's like blaming the girl in the short skirt for her own rape.

In the future I will take note that Harry is the only one here that knows what the hell he is talking about. That ok with you?

Nothing about coming out on top, that's just plain childish!!!
All I am doing is stating facts.


Perfectly ;O)

Your "facts" are incredibly subjective. And yeah it is very childish.

I don't think the policy really has to do with people staying beyond their visas. I think the government wants to limit the amount of skilled/professional workers in order to prevent competiton among highly paid positions. Those in power with money and influence want to keep it. The gap between the rich and poor has grown profoundly over the years. The United States does not do much to curb illegal immigration from the south of our border because it is cheap labort that does not threaten to drive exorbitant salaries down. But that's just my opinion.

I'm not sure I'd agree. If what you write were to be true then whence all these H1B (or H-something) visas for knowledge and skilled workers? How come the American computer science departments are practically decimated because there is really no point in studying for something that a guy in India or China will do, instead of you. How is it possible that the job protectionism (for the lack of a better word), doesn't prevent Americans from allowing Canadian nurses, teachers, doctors, and even IT professionals from coming to work in the US?

You know one of my friends told me the same thing. I wasn't even aware of a free visa program the United States had, but he essentially said Poland wasn't included because the people would never go back. I'm just finding out about this issue.