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celinski  31 | 1258  
23 Jul 2008 /  #1
Has anyone seen this yet or know where there may be a picture posted?

Poles honour 'Cold Warrior' Ronald Reagan

Polish authorities have erected a monument to US president Ronald Reagan, feted for his crusade against communism and seen by some as having hastened the collapse of the Soviet bloc, reports said Tuesday.

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osiol  55 | 3921  
23 Jul 2008 /  #2
No statue of Thatcher with her handbag then?
OP celinski  31 | 1258  
23 Jul 2008 /  #3
Thatcher with her handbag then?

lol not yet
Seanus  15 | 19666  
23 Jul 2008 /  #4
Another idiot who perpetuated a needless 'war' with Russia. The need to have an enemy was very strong. Making an enemy of a country who has more nuclear warheads was a bit foolish to say the least.

Scots and Slavs know about being warriors, that creep only knew how to hide behind big weapons. Were he to be at the helm of say, Macedonia, do u really think he'd be so cocksure? I think not somehow.
szkotja2007  27 | 1497  
23 Jul 2008 /  #5
Alzheimers ?
I m glad its not Alzheimers.
Wroclaw  44 | 5359  
23 Jul 2008 /  #7
Poles honour ‘Cold Warrior’ Ronald Reagan

He'd turn in his grave, if he could see what he is honoured with/by.
noimmigration  
23 Jul 2008 /  #8
the poles really are a bunch of arse kissers arent they.
ConstantineK  26 | 1298  
24 Jul 2008 /  #9
Has anyone seen this yet or know where there may be a picture posted?

The licking masters' boots always was an essential part of slaves' duties. And it is not important who is a master Russia, US or somebody else. Lick the boots and adore us!
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
24 Jul 2008 /  #10
Russians...

Poles honestly like Reagan :) All in all idea of Star Wars was amaizing.
ConstantineK  26 | 1298  
24 Jul 2008 /  #11
Ha-ha. No doubt, slaves always like their masters, it is their job! Moreover, they feel a need to adore somebody. Otherwise they will be punnished.
Borrka  37 | 592  
24 Jul 2008 /  #12
Well ... I have to be a native born Polish slave LOL.
I really respect Mr Reagan and enjoy results of his politics !

Just take a look at remains of the wannabe Soviet Empire.
With population (number of "rabs") cut by 50%, with economics downgraded to the third word's oil emirate and the sphere of influence reduced to Chukcha land ... it makes a perfect picture of how successful Reagan's strategy used to be !

The only memories of the good times are toothless babushkas crying "pobeda" (victory) every May.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
24 Jul 2008 /  #13
About Reagan...the eastern german gov and the western german lefties hated him so he get's some brownie points from me!

But on the other hand which countries would have suffered most if pushes had come to shove? Yup, Germany, Poland and others along the Iron curtain in central Europe...so no thanks for all that military macho posturing!
Borrka  37 | 592  
24 Jul 2008 /  #14
Würstel if it wasn't for Reagan your Zonnies would be kept behind the wall for the next 1000 years.
You are not rebels, are you ?
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
24 Jul 2008 /  #15
There are funny stats ...

In eastern Germany in every 10 Germans one was secret police denunciator.

in Poland in every 1000 Poles one was secret police denunciator ...

there is difference
Borrka  37 | 592  
24 Jul 2008 /  #16
And that's what I mean.
Amen.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
24 Jul 2008 /  #17
Würstel if it wasn't for Reagan your Zonnies would be kept behind the wall for the next 1000 years.
You are not rebels, are you ?

Not if it leads to a radioactive desert afterwards...only stoopid fanatics would go for mass killings for a "cause"!

There are funny stats ...

How would you know?
I never heard of a real deep research of the communist past in Poland (to the contrary in the ex-GDR).
It always sounds as if some foreign bad commies opressed the "poor, brave" Poles...
Borrka  37 | 592  
24 Jul 2008 /  #18
only stoopid fanatics

For sure I'm not one of them so I agree with your point.

However it may be funny .. two-headed mutant borrka with patriotic white-red eyes ...
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
24 Jul 2008 /  #19
PS: The soviet Empire was fading out already without Reagan's help. And if not the wish for a change had been strong inside the people no outside pressure would/could have changed something one yota.

Give the Russians their credits!

PPS: But you're right with one thing, Germans are not the rebels! :)
(To much fuss!)
Borrka  37 | 592  
24 Jul 2008 /  #20
You call it Gnadesnchuss lol.
I mean what Reagan has done.

And yep.
Respect to the Russian dissidents.
All 3 of them.
ConstantineK  26 | 1298  
24 Jul 2008 /  #21
two-headed mutant borrka with patriotic

I hope you will be a two-headed eagle-like Borrka!
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
24 Jul 2008 /  #22
I never heard of a real deep research of the communist past in Poland (to the contrary in the ex-GDR).

I have seen reportage in TV with some specialists. I will look for some documentation ... :) It is well known fact that Germans were the biggest denunciators in commie satelite countries.

It always sounds as if some foreign bad commies opressed the "poor, brave" Poles...

Without Russians we would never be commie ... look on war in 1920 (Germans blocked transports with weapons from France to Poland ) in Polish - Soviet war.

Why we haven't joned Soviet union in 1939 ?

because we had border with Soviets and we knew what does communism mean.

PPS: But you're right with one thing, Germans are not the rebels! :)
(To much fuss!)

So stop talking about bad Nazi regime (choosen in elections)

:)

PS: The soviet Empire was fading out already without Reagan's help. And if not the wish for a change had been strong inside the people no outside pressure would/could have changed something one yota.
Give the Russians their credits!

Military race was perfect idea. Reagan's star wars were awsome.

We would live in commie country a little bit longer. .. lets say to 2001. Without preassure on Russians
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
24 Jul 2008 /  #23
It is well known fact that Germans were the biggest denunciations in commie satellite countries.

As opposed to even the polish opposition leader himself a commie informer???

Not to mention of the church???

You better not open this special can of worms!
(Especially not accusing others of! No german would try to clear up the GDR past with pointing a finger to another country...)
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
24 Jul 2008 /  #24
Not to mention of the church???

Catholic priests were one of the biggest collaborators ... it is true.
In 1950's special trained secret police agents were going on theological seminary. Many priests were secret agents just form the begining. I agree horrible.

You better not open this can of worms!

we can agree that communism sucked.

Going back to Reagan. Germans have different view of him than Poles. When communism colapsed you decided to pay Russians to make their soldiers leave your country. We gave Jeltisn vodka and drunk Russian president agreed to move Russians soldiers from Poland (mentioned by you Walesa have done it).

I agree nuclear war would destroy both Germany and Poland.

(Especially not accusing others of! No german would try to clear up the GDR past with pointing a finger to another country...)

I wasn't my aim. Germans Poles Czechs Hungarians know how it was ... Communism in Poland was much different form German or Romanian ... not to mention Soviet Union.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
24 Jul 2008 /  #25
we can agree that communism sucked.

Absolutely!

Going back to Reagan. Germans have different view of him than Poles.

Germans too are not only a conform grey mass Lukasz.
When you watch the videos about Reagan in Berlin carefully you will see a huge crowd happy having him there, listening to him, applauding him.

It was mainly lefties who hated him....the same lefties who sucked up to the communist and symphatized with the eastern german gov (but then they hadn't had to live innit)!

How I hate them!!!

But you are right we have another a bit softer view on the Russians (Yeltsin and Gorbi) :)

PS: Admit! You wanna get me drunk here! :):):)
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
24 Jul 2008 /  #26
But you are right we have another a bit softer view on the Russians (Yeltsin and Gorbi) :)

Poles don't have bad view on Yeltsin and Gorbi. They weren't so bad. ;)

PS: Admit! You wanna get me drunk here! :):):)

Like Yeltsin :)

Going back to being rebel. Poles making strikes/riots/protests all the time. Military fighting against Russians and commies to 1950s. Had some achievements. Polish land haven't been fully confiscated by government. We had some western press, even Coca Cola lol. Opositionists form other commie countries were traveling to poland to get informations form all over the world.

Look what happend with confiscated by government land. Western Germans came to Eastern and bought it for small cash. In other countries it was very similar ... or first elites bought it for small money or foreigners. Rebel Poles owe it to this day or sold it for market price. We have seen what have happend with land confiscated by commies ... later it was robbed ...

so being rebel Pole wasn't that bad. :)

lol :)
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
24 Jul 2008 /  #27
I agree, the situations were different to the GDR.
For the eastern Germans the outlet was Western Germany. They had contact, all news through western german TV and Radio...most had family there, got holiday visits and their western consum stuff that way, the older, retired people could travel freely and so on.
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
24 Jul 2008 /  #28
Bratwurst ;) ...

anyway communism was sick system.

and in my opinion Reagan has made good job you should appreciate him more than Gorbi ...
masks98  27 | 289  
24 Jul 2008 /  #29
Ronald Reagan is probably our most overrated president -
Seanus  15 | 19666  
24 Jul 2008 /  #30
Was he rated so highly? He was open to being bought by powerful figures. The MOSSAD had him under their little finger.

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