Poland..wake up to a multicultural world

It's not the worry that makes anybody vulnerable. It's the reality.
And I am personally not worried. I will be dead. The worry is yours.
Btw. the "think positive" slogan is bullsshit. It won't help one bit. May as well spit against the wind or go into the matra of hail marys.


I see no need for any drastic changes in my living conditions. Those interested in changing theirs are free to do so. I've done my part for them. The roof of my house is being redone next week, and that's pretty much the extent of work I need to do. Oh, and my veggie garden needs some usual work, lkie every Spring.

Other changes that I would love to see are not allowed because we live in the so called multicultural societies - i.e. the suicidal ones, or self-exterminating, if you will. Your country and mine are included.

Some countries are already doomed as of today, others have a chance but... are you and most of your friends going have 3 or more kids?

Do you personally know the majority of americans that your calling moronic because i think you need too get your facts straight because i dont think we are moronic at all if you have issues with the goverment then fair enough but how can you call people you dont know moronic its pathetic

Well, reality is different.
An ordinary family has neither the time, nor the money nor the energy to play educator or babysitter or policeman for the newcomers...they just want a quiet, comfortable life in a safe, clean environment where their kids can grow up without being mugged, threatened, or killed and get a good education in a school.

That's all they want, so they leave!

But you still didn't answered the question: Why do you think this pattern (observable all across the western world) exist?

And...when there isn't another place to flee to for Whitey anymore, what then?

Your original point (quoted) made no reference to violence, only conversion. I merely posted an article about Christians trying to convert non-Christians in the UK. Why do you have a problem with Muslims doing this but not Christians? For a non-religious person like myself, a Christian trying to convert me would be just as annoying as a Muslim doing so.

If your point was purely about conversion through violence then I wholly agree with you; It should not be tolerated. I would also point out that if you are actually suggesting that forced conversion to Islam through violence is a common practice amongst the 2 million or so Muslims living in the UK, then you are a complete idiot with no knowledge of your subject matter. Surely you weren't suggesting that Sokrates?


What about a hard working Muslim who respects the law of Poland and contributes to society like any other decent person? What if he is a doctor who comes to Poland and works saving Polish lives? Is he welcome? If not, Why not? Because he doesn't celebrate Christmas?

I hate bigoted religious fundamentalists as much as the next person. I have no time for Sharia Law and oppose its introduction to British society. I do not agree with arranged marriages (although some perceptions of them are completely wrong), and I think the sort of people who picket soldiers homecoming parades are the scum of the earth. I also despise people who discriminate against homosexuals based on their backward religious beliefs (that one isn't just restricted to fundamentalist Islam). Despising the above is completely different to pigeon-holing an entire group of people based on the idea that they all conform to the above. Quite simply put: Not all Muslims are backward fundamentalists.

Come to East London Sokrates, I can introduce you to a number of decent Muslims who work hard, respect the law and integrate in to society. Granted they probably wouldn't want to spent so much as 5 minutes with a horrible little rascist such as yourself, but who could really blame them?


I think this hits the nail firmly on the head. It's got nothing to do with culture. I have clearly demonstrated that our cultures are completely different, yet you would accept me in Poland because I am white European (actually my great-grandfather was a Jew so I guess you probably wouldn't welcome me). It simply boils down to skin colour which simply makes you a racist. You try to justify your views by somehow suggesting that every Muslim has a ton of semtex under their bed, waiting to carry out Allah's commands, but once again, only an idiot would believe that.

There are people in the UK who believe the Polish are inferior based on misonceptions about their culture. These people are no worse than you.


You completely miss my point. The respective languages may have some similarities, but that does not act as a cultural bond. I could not hold a conversation with my girlfriend's parents when I went to Poland at Christmas. Aside from understanding the odd word/phrase, they might as well have been speaking Bengali to me.

Excellent Point z_darius.... Muslim Demographics. Take a few minutes to watch HatefulBunch.

Yeah but if enough people decided to do their part things could be so much better, couldn't they? There would be less run down areas. It would be easy to turn these things around if you get enough people convinced it's for the best. It will make everything more valuable.


Where I live most have three kids by the time they're twenty but that's changing which is a good thing.


They don't have to be best friends with you but they have to obey the law and stuff. We have neighborhood associations and code enforcers where I live and they keep the property values high. People want their neighborhood to look nice, be clean, grass mowed, house in good repair. If you let that stuff go the property values get lower and low lifes move in.


There's nothing to worry about. Life will go on like it always has

:)

A few trivia from various source, pre-Internet times, so no links will be provided:

A set of lectures by one fella, a university prof. working as a consultant to The UN:

He, and his research team, reached the following conclusions after years in Africa:

- the better the job someone gets the sooner the person quits the job. The goal is often short term (a walk-man, a car, a gun). Once the goal is reached there is no need to work until another goal shows up on the horizon

- family values as understood (at the time) in the West are non-existent. The male's job is to screw as much as possible, with as many women as possible. These shortcomings in the nuclear family concept and implementation reflect of wider social phenomena.

- During apartheid times in South Africa and Rohodesia, South African and Rhodesian Blacks were in the best material condition in all of Black Africans on the continent. These were official UN conclusions in late 1970's. (my note: that changed once "freedom" came to SA and Rhodesia, check the news)

Well, yeah, my posts are geared more toward others here in North America. Things are somewhat different where you are but over here people are encouraged to make areas better places to live by buying them up and fixing them. They can make pretty good profits while doing so. It's worthwhile because it would make some of these neighborhoods more valuable and attractive.

This is my home improvement series of posts :)
They were in response to another poster who wrote about black ghettos in the US.

Until they have it changed because it offends their sensibilities.


Good, it is better to have four or more.

We can follow the fruits of their freedom daily at the news...

You can't let them change it. That's where I draw the line. If you are gonna move to another country you can't go changing the laws.

It's clear there's assimilation issues. Ghetto people aren't assimilating. They should have to assimilate and be part of mainstream America and they aren't doing it in run down ghetto 'hoods.

Darius, You are wasting your time with HB. Everything that you said in another post is exactly how it is. She is a part of the younger generation that never saw how hard our Grandparents and Fathers had to work so they can live the lifestyle that she has now . When I go back to my old neighborhood, I want to cry. At one time it was a wonderful place to live. The animals destroyed everything. The Government built them brand new apartment buildings. After ten years, the had to be demolished. They tore the copper pipes and plumbing out to sell for drugs.

I think the younger generations should preserve the older neighborhoods. We should be working hard to add value. We take too much for granted and that will cause problems. Things will get run down, people won't care and people from other places will come in and buy them up, or they will get so run down they won't sell and will attract low lifes who bring down property values.

Nunczka, your old neighborhood is a prime example of urban decay. We should not allow it to happen. It's irresponsible.

Urban decay is secondary. It's the social decay caused by those who are moved from straw huts to modern houses. You can't fight back because you will be labeled a racist. That's what happened to once prosperous, nice and well to do City of Yonkers. They tried to stop the onslaught of the so called "affordable housing" (we all know what that really means) and refused to issue building permits. The city was penalized with $1,000,000 fine per day (early 1990's) until they allowed those housing projects. Now the City is crap.

So much for your "we can't allow". Well, we do.

Let me finish that sentence:

....until you become the majority.


Their aim is to become mainstream America.

What I'm talking about isn't so much racial. It's about lowlifes, people without a lot of money and no steady income who move into a neighborhood with low property values, ie: houses that are delapidated, vacant, in bad repair adding to urban decay. These are the types of areas that turn into ghettos because blacks are the ones with the least money and the most social problems in the US. Which is why there are so many blacks in these areas. That, and the whites abandoning them because they don't want to pay to fix these places up.


I'm not sure what "affordable housing" is. Where I live, once prosperous neighborhoods like Capitol Hill are run down now because of urban decay. Whatever is there that hasn't been renovated needs to be or it's going to drag the property values down (which it's already done but some are trying to revitalize such areas now) and vacant houses always attracts lowlifes.

*nods*

What is a country or a continent if not a big neighbourhood? And look how the lefty multikulti mainstream treats those who want to preserve this neighbourhood...


Guess what is it? Hint: Not the Whiteys who for so long too good care of it...
It isn't as you said that the devaluing comes first and THEN the lowlifes move in. The Whites don't wake up one morning and decide to stay in bed and to let their environment decay what they and their ancestors worked so hard for...it starts when people move in who prefer to live like locusts!

HB, Do you practice what you preach? I would be willing to bet that you live in a white working class neighborhood. Enjoy it while you can. It is only a matter of time before you will be displaced. Thanks to your Government ran by liberals , they will Allow Acorn and other radical organizations to destroy your neighborhood.. While they.. The filthy rich liberals that hide behind their walled communities and leave the older working white class to be displaced.

Darius said it all. We the older generation may not see it but you kids will pay the price. These animals propagate like rats, so it wont take more than another generation or two at the most.

We know all about that here and we know how to keep it from happening. However, this isn't one of those classical hoods with the beautiful old four story houses form the 1920's. If this neighbor went down it's not as bad because these houses are newer and not as elegant and lovely. Why do people let beautiful old neighborhoods get run down? There's a neighborhood in particular that is one of the nicest here and it looks really good because people take care of their properties. The houses are like, around a million dollars each, some less, some more. It would be easy for that neighborhood to go downhill because of it's location in the city but they keep it looking great and it's worth a lot of money when you combine all the houses. There are a few that are run down but people are renovating them so they can sell them for more money. If this same thing happened everywhere, think of how much better off we all would be? Think of how much value we would all be adding to our country.

Bratwurst Boi, are you saying we should let all those houses go downhill? These are heirlooms and your excuse is, because you don't like a few blacks, these beautiful old houses (which they don't make anymore, in the US, anyway) can just go you-know-where? That's not really an excuse to give up on these houses, is it? Why should you let it happen? Think of how valuable these houses are?

Again, let me finish that statement for you;

...if we were to preserve our way of life by being more selective in our immigration policies.

I'm actually for doing something but then you will call me probably a racist again..
But be it as it may, more and more people stop caring about what they are called, we will see what will happen!

That's another topic entirely. In the US there's no excuse for letting an old neighborhood that was once a thriving place turn into a run down drug den. If people are going to complain about it they should be doing something to fix it or not let it happen in the first place.


It depends on what you suggest...if you agree with me, I won't call you a racist, lol.

HB, You would make a great representative for Acorn. You actually believe in what you preach. It is all of the CHANGE in our new leadership. The USA will become a UTOPIA.

Besides the MINORITIES deserve special treatment because they were oppressed for so long. In time, we all will be able to afford.

$540 tennis shoes
Wagyu steaks, at $100.00 a lb
Treating our Wives to a dinner in Chicago, $237,000.00 AIR FORCE 1 at tax payers expense
Sendind our kids to private school, but depriving vouchers for poor kids.

It's just going to get better

You're still missing the point.
Fvck the buildings. It's not about roof repairs. Don't even think about buildings. Mosques are actually impressive and well maintained structures, better than many hockey arenas where I live. But it's not about that. Please, please, forget the civil engineering and sanitation issues altogether.

It's about the entire civilization that is going back to the 7th century, and it is likely to happen during your lifetime, in the US perhaps half a generation later. Can you even grasp the concept? Ever heard of the Fall of Rome? That's what is happening. It may be hundreds of years before thing such as democracy and women's right are "rediscovered".

It starts easy. Like in Canada. With federal police allowed to wear turbans, with muslim women suing local authorities when they are not allowed to wear full facial cover for the driver's license photo (religious rights, you know), with a Sikh suing one of Canadian provinces for requiring him to wear a helmet while riding a motorbike which conflicts with his turban. Examples are multiplying daily.

Of course life will go one. Rats are life too, so are viri and amoeba. And the lowlife I linked to (the youtube flickabove ) are life too, regrettably. Yours will be dictated by them.

I dunno what ACORN is. I think there's too much dragging us down. If you lived in an area with a lot of old houses you would agree with me. I think you live in a newer area so maybe what I am proposing wouldn't matter there. But where ever there's old houses, there's value because it's like a tourist attraction, you know? But no one can go visit because it's so run down. We do ourselves a great disservice.

HB I have to disagree. It is all the same topic. I think that America may be able to solve most of it's racial issues with time and some good policy initiative on behalf of all levels of government. But the people you are letting in your front door are an entirely different, and more threatening issue, than the current race issues.


True. Selective immigration policy. People that kind of believe in the same branch of religion as what your forefathers believed (or agnostic / atheistic), regardless of skin color, are the kind people that should be allowed to immigrate to America. It is the only way to potentially preserve what you have.

It is selective because of Homeland Security. Most of what you are talking about are illegals from Mexico and those are much harder to keep out. They don't enter the country legally and when they get deported they come right back. They find work here because they are willing to work for nearly nothing and people will hire them.

Jesus Christ what are you on about? The crux of the problem which everyone here is trying to avoid is that minorities mess up our society for both racial and primarily cultural and religious reasons regardless of opportunities they were given.

Africa was left with awesome opportunities, blacks in US have been given huge possibilites, muslims and blacks in UK got a paradise made true there and they still manage to generate ghettos, slums, they still occupy the lowest step of socio-economic ladder.

Why arent Poles stealing, beating up and making a mess of things? Why could we become productive members of the society? Why could Germans, Dutch, Poles and British and other Europeans create such an awesome state as US and blacks cant in any place in the world create a succesfull nation, country or even a local society?

HB, You are living in a dream world. So who am I to try to tell you things that you dont understand. As you grow older, try to think back at what we are all discussing in here. It is not only you, we are split in our assessments on this issue. Time will tell which of us had it right.

You have every right to your take on this subject. But I am backing off. No disrepect to you.

PSSST! What happened to Randall?

Yeah but we got minorities over here and some day we (whites) are going to be the minority in the US. Even if we stopped immigration we would still end up being a minority because there's so many non whites here already.