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Castanea  - | 75  
14 Apr 2009 /  #721
There r bare racist ppl on this thread!
Ouch! Big ouch!

Then who is in power then according to you? Obama? Black people?

Are you just another naive sheep who actually believes Obama has your best interests at heart?
Seanus  15 | 19666  
14 Apr 2009 /  #722
Obama is even dissed by NWO folks like Alex Jones. Maybe there is a NWO but I don't see it visibly and have no proof of their influence on global affairs.
Foreigner4  12 | 1768  
14 Apr 2009 /  #723
Exactly my point Foreigner, it's overly subjective and one man's meritworthy deed is another's hell.

whoops, i forgot to respond. Y'know i was just about to agree with you but then it dawned on me that the merits are for a society to agree on. If a system which fairly assessed immigrantion based on the needs of a given society were to be implemented then it would be fair for that society.

Surely the merits test would be easy to prove? As people, we all have merits of some description or another. It just depends who is doing the judging and how strict they wish to judge this 'merit'.

Again although i agree with you on how the system would probably end up being corrupted, that in itself is more of a criticism of those who might implement a system, not the system.

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Seanus  15 | 19666  
14 Apr 2009 /  #724
I agree with you in the sense of things like awarding MBE's and OBE's. However, society is just too wide and varied to put a meritocracy in place. There are just too many competing interests and value judgements to be clear on the modus operandi of it. You'd amplify the problem in this way, For4.

What's a system without people? Why make the implementers different from the runners of the system? You are right, though, just look at communism. Even I can say that some of the logic had some appeal but what a woeful system in practice.
PurpleLeo  2 | 47  
14 Apr 2009 /  #725
Then who is in power then according to you? Obama? Black people?

Are you just another naive sheep who actually believes Obama has your best interests at heart?

If you didn't understand what I typed ask me before typing something like you just did.
I wasn't talking about Obama. This has nothing to do with Obama and I'm definately
not one of those that look to Obama as their savior. Don't really care to be honest!

I was just saying that I think people are being racist on here are making it out as if all black people are into crime and as if we can't do anything for ourselves...example the guy that said that Africa fell apart when the colonialists left.

Lots of other "races" are involved in crime too no?
Cenowski  - | 63  
14 Apr 2009 /  #726
Lots of other "races" are involved in crime too no?

i watched a programme even on the jew run BBC the other day and it supprised me when even the Police of the programme even said infront of camera, that its mainly the black people committing the crime in the areas of london, makes most of the percentage....ive also met Police people who told me exactly same so i dont think its myth....but sure other people commit crime to
PurpleLeo  2 | 47  
14 Apr 2009 /  #727
OKAY, whatever you say mate.
grethomory  1 | 155  
14 Apr 2009 /  #728
but sure other people commit crime to

See there, that's you problem and what I've been saying all along...if you listen to the biased media they will make you think stupid things such as this...and you follow and believe. Helpless in your thought. No more than a drone controlled by media.

I have said before I am black...educated with a MBA. My parents as well as my grandparents went to college and graduated with degrees...albeit they had to attend Black Universities because of segregation here in America, but why is it the media never speaks about us? I grew up with people around me...neighbors who were just like me and Black with Black parents who went to college....but it's so strange the media doesn't report on us.

Think. Think of who is the easiest target and the generation of fear. Think for yourself...not what you were taught or biased...think.
z_darius  14 | 3960  
14 Apr 2009 /  #729
I also find it to be a problem and a disturbing trend. This is the so call "role model" situation where, instead of breaking up with stereotypes by doing the positive rather than shouting in the streets and in the media about the negative, the media concentrates on the bad, the primitive (most pro sports), the illegal etc.

A boss of mine was a black person from Jamaica. Probably the most knowledgeable and quick mind I ever worked with in IT. The problem is he wasn't a role model for anybody. Steroid users aka sports personalities are.

This seems to be a general trend in the last decades. Keeping people uneducated and stupid. It's much easier to rule fools than people who can think for themselves. Racial tensions can also be very useful to politicians, so I don't think there will ever be genuine effort to eliminate prejudices.
Castanea  - | 75  
14 Apr 2009 /  #730
Think. Think of who is the easiest target and the generation of fear. Think for yourself...not what you were taught or biased...think.

That's nice. However I don't believe the media doesn't make your people out to be scape goats. Many blacks do a fine job of doing that themselves.

Are you serious? We are taught to be tolerant, incredibly tolerant in the United States. Many times I have seen a successful white girl dating a degenerate black hood rat .

Black men are portrayed as exotic by the media. They are people that can dance, play sports, make music etc. Why are all our professional NBA players black? This is only a recent phenomenon. Yet, they often get beaten by European teams, during exhibition games, "majority white players".

I'm going to pretend for a minute that you are not a troll. If you have any fraction of intelligence and granted you do watch t.v., and have attended school, you will know for a fact that whites are indoctrinated to accept foreigners into their misguided hearts.
SRK85  - | 72  
14 Apr 2009 /  #731
^^You must be a idealist because thats not really true at all.
grethomory  1 | 155  
14 Apr 2009 /  #732
Are you serious? We are taught to be tolerant, incredibly tolerant in the United States. Many times I have seen a successful white girl dating a degenerate black hood rat .

Uh, and where I come from I have seen degenerate white hoods dating girls of color. The mirror has 2 faces.

That's nice. However I don't believe the media doesn't make your people out to be scape goats. Many blacks do a fine job of doing that themselves.

Thanks. I don't need your validation. Secondly, the media DOES focus on minorities to generate fear. When's the last time you heard about a person like me and my family...and get this...I'm from the South originally.

Black men are portrayed as exotic by the media

I don't know if exotic was the word you were seeking to use, but that's a totally negative remark to call someone exotic. You probably didn't know that.

They are people that can dance, play sports, make music etc. Why are all our professional NBA players black?

Again, another incorrect quote. All of us including myself...not good at sports...never have been. Can play piano because my parents made me learn an instrument...not because I loved it, but I sure wouldn't play for anyone. Once again, where do you hear the media publicizing people like me? Come again.

I'm going to pretend for a minute that you are not a troll. If you have any fraction of intelligence and granted you do watch t.v., and have attended school, you will know for a fact that whites are indoctrinated to accept foreigners into their misguided hearts.

I am going to pretend that you have a small amount of common sense left in your misguided mind and put it to something more useful. Whites are not indoctrinated to accept anything more than they want to...as in any other people or race.
Castanea  - | 75  
15 Apr 2009 /  #733
Yes, all those tyler perry movies focus on wealthy blacks. Family Matters, Fresh Prince of Bel Air. Stop complaining.

Yes whites are. If we were not indoctrinated by the education system and the media, there would be no reason for us to allow coloured people to immigrate here and the rest of Europe.

From a behavioral standpoint and sociological/cultural standpoint; there is nothing more natural than ethnocentrism and not associating with foreign people.

If there is anything unnatural in this world, it is placing people from all over to world to live in one country. This is like some sick reality show.

It's amazing how only whites are expected to embrace multiculturalism.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
15 Apr 2009 /  #734
Nothing more natural than not associating with foreign people, I disagree with that. Yeah, birds of a feather flock together n'all but still, there are more natural things. Placing people doesn't really happen. You know, some countries have benefitted from such selective placements. For example, Sweden back in the 1970's. They drafted blacks in on purpose and they served a useful function.
HatefulBunch397  - | 658  
15 Apr 2009 /  #735
Yes whites are. If we were not indoctrinated by the education system and the media, there would be no reason for us to allow coloured people to immigrate here and the rest of Europe.

You are forgetting why there are so many coloreds in the US. It's because idiots brought them here as slaves.

From a behavioral standpoint and sociological/cultural standpoint; there is nothing more natural than ethnocentrism and not associating with foreign people.

The best situation are places with mixes of people all living together. That way they get used to what each other are like, used to dealing with each other so they are better socialized.

Not associating with people from other places would result in inbreeding, wouldn't it? Populations that are cut off from the rest of the world are inbred, aren't they? How else are they going reproduce?

If there is anything unnatural in this world, it is placing people from all over to world to live in one country. This is like some sick reality show.

Most people who move to the US from other places have done really well. The ones who have done the worst are the blacks and Mexicans, sometimes.

Castanea, I betcha anything your ancestors emigrated to America from some place else.

It's amazing how only whites are expected to embrace multiculturalism.

Why is it you think caucasians from Britain, France, Spain, and Scandinavia have not shoved their culture down the throats of indigenous people all over the world. Whites always seem to forget that. In the US the official language is English. What language is it people learn when they come here? Is it Ebonics or is it English? You seem to forget that fact. Whites have done much of the past multiculturing when they colonized much of the world.

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Cenowski  - | 63  
15 Apr 2009 /  #736
OKAY, whatever you say mate.

What so the tv programme was wrong, i dont think so so you can go choke on your OKAY, whatever mateeee....

Tv dosnt usually show this becuase uk media and government is on liberalism sides and blacks sides, so i dont think you have any idea, its not south usa, blacks get all the attention as supposed victims
grethomory  1 | 155  
16 Apr 2009 /  #737
Why is it you think caucasians from Britain, France, Spain, and Scandinavia have not shoved their culture down the throats of indigenous people all over the world. Whites always seem to forget that. In the US the official language is English. What language is it people learn when they come here? Is it Ebonics or is it English? You seem to forget that fact. Whites have done much of the past multiculturing when they colonized much of the world.

Thank you. And for Castanea to make such idiotic remarks truly shows how out of touch with reality they are...I for one can speak for Black History...Blacks contributed so much to this country with all types of inventions, etc...and were/have never been given the credit for it. Something as simple as the traffic light was invented by a Black man, but no credit was given.

Look at American history books...the only thing you learn about blacks is that they were slaves and George Washington Carver did amazing things with the peanut. We only learn that we took the land from the Indians. We learn we pushed Mexicans back to what is now called Mexico and renamed land which was really theirs and called it Texas. We only learn about the white culture and the gains which were made...not about the individual contributions of all individuals in this diverse country.

No one is forcing anything on whites. Hell, I live with a white man who happens to be Polish. As we start to move toward a country where there is enhanced equality those with closed minds will be in the minority because they will feel as though something is being taken away from them.
PurpleLeo  2 | 47  
16 Apr 2009 /  #738
What so the tv programme was wrong, i dont think so so you can go choke on your OKAY, whatever mateeee....

Tv dosnt usually show this becuase uk media and government is on liberalism sides and blacks sides, so i dont think you have any idea, its not south usa, blacks get all the attention as supposed victims

*chokes on OKAY*....no further comments
grethomory  1 | 155  
17 Apr 2009 /  #739
Yes, all those tyler perry movies focus on wealthy blacks. Family Matters, Fresh Prince of Bel Air. Stop complaining.

ha, the only black family in that list that is wealthy is Fresh Prince. Now, I have you idea of what you think of wealthy blacks. Family Matters as well as Tyler Perry movies are mainly middle class Blacks...believe it or not. Get out more and integrate, but you're too busy keeping ignorance and stupidity alive and well.
MrBubbles  10 | 613  
17 Apr 2009 /  #740
there is nothing more natural than ethnocentrism and not associating with foreign people.

True - especially if you're a peasant in a small village in the 15th century. These days the free market will wipe you out if you can't relate to people from other cultures.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
17 Apr 2009 /  #741
Yeah, village life sure does cloud the bigger picture.
Castanea  - | 75  
17 Apr 2009 /  #742
Hell, I live with a white man who happens to be Polish. As we start to move toward a country where there is enhanced equality those with closed minds will be in the minority because they will feel as though something is being taken away from them.

Awesome the traffic light. Listen I don't care about Black accomplishments. I really don't care about the peanut butter, the super soaker, or the traffic light. I'm sure there are more, but the fact remains that blacks in sub sahara never passed the stone age in terms of developement. They did not even have a written language.

Honestly, what I do know for a fact is that if slavery or colonization did not happen, you probably would still be in Africa and sold by your father to the wealthiest slack jawed bushman for the price of two cattle.

But thats a different issue. The fact is the rest of the world is infecting primarily western europe and the United States. It is a fact that parts of Paris are not safe because of African immigrants and Muslims. Anyone can tell you the turks are a problem in Germany.

It is a fact that whites are encouraged to race mix by the media. It is a fact that black culture is the most vile filth to ever grace the television screen. What was traditional European dance and music has largely been replaced by grinding and rap. It's gross to see little kids humping each other to little john.

As far as being from a village. Yes racism is natural. We did not need diversity then and we don't need it now.

Gee, I wonder what Leornardo Da Vinci would of accomplished if his neighbors were Patel, Akmed, Jamal, and Jun Wang?

The places with the highest crime rates are places with high diversity that is a fact.

And there is nothing wrong with dating someone of the same race. There is no inbreeding. Hateful you are a retard who has no understanding of biology or genetics if you think this. Whites have been seperate from Blacks and other races for 60,000-80,000 years. If we were inbred, we would of died out long before the last ice age.

Just another pathetic excuse to convince us to forfeit our blood.

Why is it that Moldova, one of the poorest countries in Europe, has lower crime rate than the U.S.? Maybe it's because of the low diversity.

Yea Europe did colonize some countries, rather founded nations. Rhodesia was a great nation ruined when it became Zimbabwe. So? your point? A brief period of colonization grants the right for immigration? If they are so opposed to us, why do they come live here?
HatefulBunch397  - | 658  
17 Apr 2009 /  #743
Why is it that Moldova, one of the poorest countries in Europe, has lower crime rate than the U.S.? Maybe it's because of the low diversity.

Well, Castanea, why were you not in Spain or Britain hundreds of years back to warn them of this phenomena? Maybe then the US would be nothing but fighting native american tribes like it was before whitey showed up? Oh yeah, sure, there was never any violence before whitey bought blackie to work the plantations of the new world.
Castanea  - | 75  
17 Apr 2009 /  #744
Whites have nothing to gain from diversity.

Here is a nice little link about black inventions.
www33.brinkster.com/iiiii/inventions
grethomory  1 | 155  
18 Apr 2009 /  #745
Honestly, what I do know for a fact is that if slavery or colonization did not happen, you probably would still be in Africa and sold by your father to the wealthiest slack jawed bushman for the price of two cattle.

Probably is a big word...especially spewed in a ignorant sentence as aforementioned. So, slavery was the best thing that could have happened to a people, hunh? Ok

It is a fact that whites are encouraged to race mix by the media. It is a fact that black culture is the most vile filth to ever grace the television screen. What was traditional European dance and music has largely been replaced by grinding and rap. It's gross to see little kids humping each other to little john.

No one's encouraging anything. Kids and young people generally get along until they are poisoned by evil such as the statements you're making. You sound like those idiots who thought Elvis Presley was vile filth because of the way he dance...and I think they ended up calling him "The King" Save your ignorance for someone somewhere else. No one is listening.

Why is it that Moldova, one of the poorest countries in Europe, has lower crime rate than the U.S.? Maybe it's because of the low diversity.

Is that where you live? Hmmm....or could it be because no one really wants to move there if it is so poor?

And there is nothing wrong with dating someone of the same race. There is no inbreeding. Hateful you are a retard who has no understanding of biology or genetics if you think this. Whites have been seperate from Blacks and other races for 60,000-80,000 years. If we were inbred, we would of died out long before the last ice age.

This is another ignorant rant which I am not going to step down to dignify, LOLOL
blacksoul  - | 17  
18 Apr 2009 /  #746
Castanea

You need to see a psychiatrist, you must be academically insane. What does a racist know? nothing...all he knows is hate...What has your father accomplished? All he loves is to wield gun and stick to a bible he does not know what letters are in it?

You have found solace here on PF..and i don't blame you....80% Poles are accommodating-racists....though not all of them are racists. I am sure you were rejected from white supremacy group until you found PF. Go ahead and build your foundation here, raise a family of haters here...You will gain nothing, but death at a young age.

No peace to you
osiol  55 | 3921  
18 Apr 2009 /  #747
Moldova is ethnically very mixed (Romanian, Bulgarian, Gagauz, Russian, Ukrainian). There very low crime rate idea falls down in part due to the high levels of corruption, the riots that occur when the communists get elected again, and the breakaway Transdniestria region, over which the central government has no control. Try reading "Beating the Moldovans at Tennis" by Tony Hawks for a first hand account of Moldova.
southern  73 | 7059  
18 Apr 2009 /  #748
Multicultural means that you accept foreigners to boost the economy.On the other hand you accept increase in crime rates and lower civilizations entry and partial dominance with the according consequences.The point is the balance.

In my opinion an example of how immigration works are the countries of Denmark and Sweden.In Denmark there is probably very low immigration while in Sweden immigrants live in high numbers.So if you go to Copenhagen you notice the lack of infrastructure,the relative lack of services(no open shops during night,low motorized traffic,no availability of services,high prices for ordinary products etc).

If you travel to Malmoe,45 minutes from Copenhagen the picture changes and there is huge availability of goods and services and motorized traffic and a lot of commodities.The reason:The immigrants in Malmoe make the difference.

On the other hand in Denmark you always see pretty white faces,not this black scum,or dark skinned harassing and moving in hordes with hungry eyes which is rampant in Sweden.So the Swedish accepted the immigration labor force to gain economic advantages and try to deal with the cultural differences.

The mindset of western european nations seems to be ''if you want to be a boss,then you have to find immigrants to work for you,otherwise you turn your own people into slaves'',so if you want to rule you have to import the ruled persons.

The decisions about immigration depend on businessmen's desire and are taken inside EU by calculating some numbers and indexes which I don't know.

The result are the sh1tty faces.
fred_chopin  
18 Apr 2009 /  #749
The result are the sh1tty faces.

And less slavic girls for southern.
southern  73 | 7059  
18 Apr 2009 /  #750
Not exactly.Basically it depends on how much profit you can make out of the wealth provided by immigrant labor force in your country comparatively to the situation in slavic countries.There is a big struggle how high portion will each category gain from this wealth and it drops down to every social class.

So the presence of immigrants in my country increases my success with slavic women indirectly.The ex-flow of polish women to foreign countries to work as immigrants decreases my success.

However the whole issue is rather complicated and there are several factors to be taken into account.

Every EU country has different approach to immigration.For example in UK immigrants by some laws are employed in public sector,which is not the case in other countries.For example in Germany I never saw a turkish public servant.So the profile of a Turk in Germany is probably different from the profile of a Turk in the UK because in the latter the Turk is a wannabe public servant or successfull whatever,while in Germany he is destined to be unemployed,gang member,or working in kebab shop and living in ghettos.

This does not mean that Germany for example has to change its immigration policy,it simply has different approach to immigration.(not bad if you are not an immigrant).

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