Should Poland send volunteers to Georgia ?

Sure. Bad, bad me...

I anybody intervenes,Russia will simply cut gas and oil supply to his country and economy will lose big time.Noone is ready to suffer consequences for the sake of Georgia.

They have .. they hate us. ; (

But Wally, aren't you tired of everyone calling for the US to help when it is convenient for them, and then watch spend the rest of their time throwing mud at us?

Let them sort out their own messes...

And if they kill each other in a blood bath and blame us for it, it's not as if we would be surprised!

Not everyone.One part calls,the other does not.


They will not blame US as long as it does not intervene.They accuse US of direct actions like bombing etc,not of indirect actions like inspiring insurgents.

As always, wise beyond your years.

They will blame the US, even if it is agreed upon by NATO.

Just ask Crow!

..uhh no don't do that.. I don't have time to read a phone book size post..

Crow sees only slavic interest.

People of a country/ethnic group always see the world through the lens of their own interests. That's human nature. No one is objective about the US. Sometimes the US does the wrong thing for the right reason, and sometimes we get it all wrong. No govt is perfect, and you sure as hell can't make everyone happy or predict all the twists and turns that develop in a situation.

Georgia heleped you when you asked them and now when they are invaded... ? Well, just shows that any alliance with USA is useless.

Who asked who? When? Why?

Sorry to go into Puzzler mode, but prove it!

Why the hell do you think they sent 2000 soldiers to Iraq ?

Poland has sent soldiers there too, and Afgannieland.
So? Do you think a country does that without some self interest?

Of course not and in that case self interest of Georgia was to have good relations with America, so they could get some help If nessesery. Obviously they miscalculated.

PROVE IT little doggie! :)

Greg.. Yes they did and we're grateful.. They aren't completely abandoned.

Do you want us to start a full fledged war with the Russians something that will surely snare Poland / EU with it? Over what? Some break away principality? Even if we were victorious it would probably be a Phyrric victory.

Georgia supplied a small contingent of troops as part of the UN.

The UN is not run by the US, nor should it be!

Of course not. Bush is going to say "bad, bad Puti" and that will show him.


Because of exactly the same logic, half of Europe was under Russian domination. And would be again If they decided to do that.

BTW I didn't say to start any war (actually someone has already done that) just reated to posts of some randome Yanks.

Where is the support for people fighting for their independence???
I thought that is inbuilt into every Pole?

WTF.. why bother? Now I see why you get so pis.sed off all the time.

Greggie just wants the US to liberate them for him!

Its what the world expects of the Americans, to liberate the down trodden peoples from their oppressors.

But the thanks is very short lived......

Yes, but the condemnation won't be, will it? I can here it now: The stupid f***ing Yank screwed this up again. Pictures all over BBC, CBC of bombed preschools , on and on and on...

Well.. THE HELL WITH THAT!!

Na ja...here the EU is equally to blame!

We all propped up Georgia, only oogling the oil, the gas, the pipelines.
Todays war is what happens when we ignore the people and their problems....
It's all selfmade!

The UN needs to address this.....the message needs to come from everyone, not just the US!

Why doesn't the UN recognize South Ossetia as independent from Georgia? Wouldn't that solve a lot of the problem?

Butty, read something else than Gazprom sponsored articles. Ossetians had been shelling Georgian villages for days before Georgians finally moved in. And you saw columns of Russian armoured vehicles moving in just few hours later ? They were waiting just next to the border.


Well...

You think Spiegel or Deutsche Welle are Gazprom sponsored?

What do you think should happen with people who can't/won't live together anymore, who want to fight for their independence?
That's an objective question....

Yeah exactly.. right? There it is.

Well what? If California suddenly decides it's Canadian all of a sudden you gonna fly over and help us out? Huh Greg old buddy? Maybe there's a reason you're still not under the Soviet's boot, ever thought about that??

Call me naive...but I think if people don't want to live together they shouldn't be forced to! *shrugs*

This has been building up for years. The area is peppered with towns full of Gerogians mixed in with Ossetians. It's the capital Tskhinvali that is mainly Ossetian. They have two separate governments trying to run things.

They would have to split the land down the middle and move everyone over to one side of the border to separate the ethnic groups (which I understand have a lot of intermarriages). People aren't going to want to do that unless someone else forces them to draw up a pact. That is a job for the UN.

Russia might roll in with some tanks and insist on a ceasefire, but how long will that hold when the underlying problem remains unchanged?