Should rape carry a life sentence in Poland?

u have a brain hemorage.. do u realize some of these rapes are not just
forced sex, they use objects on the victims.. do you consent to that?


I can see where both are coming from, but if put in this situation, I think
that most would want to make their own punishment.. that girl in the W/c
has no choice now and surely he would have left her for dead, society cant
change him back.. and I dont see where he has one shred of human in him for
his actions..will he do it again if hes let go into society after so many years?

yes.

And no woman wants to be raped you thick twat

Another candidate for rusty plier therapy :(

Rapists as far as I understand usually get about 5 years, Jacub brutally attacked and sexually assaulted this woman and left her for dead. Had she not been found he would most certainly have faced a murder charge, which would have carried a life sentense.

But do I think rapist should be behind bars for life - yes I do, they are animals who in most cases re-offend. Ask any woman who has been raped what her quality of life is like after the event, some may exist and get on with it! most struggle and continue to struggle to the day they die. Why should a man just suffer for 5 years?


And a fcuking hot poker up his arse, see how he likes sexual abuse!

and then after the rape jail sentence , he should get life w/o parole
for his intent to do great bodily harm and leaving the victim for dead..

Why should the taxpayer pay for three hots and a cot for some rapist, for the rest of his life? If death is not an option, at least make them do forced labor to pay for their own incarceration.

Mask, anyone who thinks that rape is "not that bad" is sick.

exactly.... hard labor 24/7...

masks, your opinion is not controversial, but plain stupid...you have no idea man..

Rapists are not the only prisoners in jail.child Molesters, thiefs, murderer's etc..

but I agree with your thoughts of the supporting them,, some prisoners get
better treatment on the inside then they do on the outside.

what are polands jails like? anyone know?

This thread is highlighting the problem. I applaud all the female posters who have piped up. Many men just cannot grasp the emotional and psychological torment that women go through. They think that a tick on a document and the following visits to a quack are enough. But that's a cop out, a fob off for the victim. The psychologist may be able to offer more insight into her condition but that's debatable. It depends on their competence. The fact is, words can run and run but the scarring remains.

And for those of u who think I'm just spewing out nonsense, I've known a rape victim who still bears the scars after SOOO many years. I also knew a terrified young woman where I worked in Japan be threatened with rape. She was stalked. I escorted her home to give her relative safety.

Although life sentences are too draconian, penalties should be stiff. I acknowledge too that the rapist may have had a brutal life and partially understand his motives. However, that cannot condone the blatant invasion of another's privacy.

Nice Post Seanus. I can only assume that Mask does not know of anybody who has been through this horrendous experience. If he did he would not have come up with his remarks.

i do not know of anybody who has been raped neither...
not an excuse here...

Thanks matey!! I'm not gonna lay into Masks tho, he just could've been more tactful in what he wanted to say but he's a smart commentator on so many things. I prefer to look at the good side of people.

As for psychologists, I believe that they can serve a useful purpose but they prey on people's weaknesses. Too many people just pop off to the doctor too nonchalantly. A quick fix solution if u will. Please don't think me insincere, I'm just of the belief that the combination of 2 things would really help. Firstly, the knowledge that I did nothing to provoke the butt rape (assuming I was raped by a group of strong homosexuals). Secondly, the support of my family. Their encouragement and 'being there' will always mean more to me than a quack who is, after all, just doing a job.

This is the topic for another thread tho, societal attitudes to doctors.

PS I said butt rape as, in Scotland, rape is the forcible insertion of the penis into the vagina without the woman's consent, or sth closely related to that. Sorry, my legal background crept to the fore.

I don't need to go into much detail here, the crime of rape should be punishable by death. SIMPLE

Yeh. I've noticed and quite right too. You make some interesting points concerning reliance upon 'third party' support to deal with recovery. Why not widen the debate to cover abdication of personal responsibilities in many situations? And, no, I'm not advocating do it yourself recovery from physical assault. It's just that more and more I see people unwilling to take responsibility for their actions and relying upon others all the time. The rise of the blame culture is to me very worrying.

Yeah, such attitutes brought rise to a plethora of vicarious liability cases. I can imagine them being a ballache in litigation circles. I wonder how it would work in Poland. Many say that Poles don't like accepting the blame for anything.

Inextricably linked to blame culture is compensation culture. I had a lesson with a student on this back in summer. The topic for a new thread maybe? I don't wanna hijack threads. The UK would get a bad rap, it's actually worse than America according to some commentators.

It'd certainly open a few eyes, the stuff I was reading.

(sigh) i guess we'll never know unless it's tried though, will we? But yeah i can see how things could end up consuming the victim and well, that's not a good thing, is it?

Rape should carry a life sentance where ever it is committed, not just in Poland

i have a few "associates" that can attest to Polish prisons being absolutely shite, men lose lots of weight in Polish prisons unless someone from the outside keeps them very well fed.

But don't worry generally only blue collar criminals go there, white collar criminals (businessmen and politicians) stay free so it's all fair, isn't it?

any other questions?

while the topic of capital punishment is being thrown around i have to say i'm more than a little appauled at the sick fantasies people are throwing around here. Unless you've been raped you probably ought not to try and pretend you've suffered such a thing.

Now I fully support capital punishment but here's how it should be done simpletons (yes i mean you guys with the sick fetishes).
You don't waste bullets, or gas, heat, or resources of any kind on them, if someone has been such a bane on society that the best we as a people can do is kill them then there's no sense in wasting resources on one unfit to live.

So what do we do then? You have them march up a closed of section of cliff aaaaalllll the way to the top, then they either jump or are made to jump and let gravity do its' work. No muss, no fuss, then get back to workin on society.

I know, i know, i even frighten myself sometimes.

On a more light-hearted note, the words rape and murder found there way into the Rolling Stones classic song, Gimme Shelter. Maybe my favourite song of theirs and that's saying sth.

youtube.com/watch?v=LJMnES7WoT4, here it is

Perhaps you're being intentionally facetious and it has escaped me.

My oh my Somerled, that was a stunning commentary. U got me off my seat with that. I eagerly anticipate what is to follow ;)

Come again?

DEATH BY CLIFF

Summer Holiday
Living Doll
Mistletoe and Wine
Millennium Prayer

aaarrrrgghhh! I can't take any more!

oh, sarcasm. That escaped me as well, lol.

That's because you are now a mad Mullah. I read it here so it must be true

Humour is against the teachings of the prophet Mohammed, peace be unto him.

I was gonna throw in a come/cum joke but I'll refrain.

U like Mel Smith?

And unto all his followers, except them that he must smite for showing teeth whilst playing fizz buzz down the bar

Must be a UK thing?

yes. UK drinking game which relies upon numerical dexterity. I won't bore you with the detailed rules of play

It helps to sit near a pot plant, so you can lose some of your drink