Nazism in Poland - A recipe for mass suicide?

ok, then stop trying to out do everyone.. offer critisizm when needed not because
you are out to start a fire.. I think you are too. and very intelligent. and you are
a member, we all came here to learn, not fight.. even though it happens..

tell us what you like about poland bratwurst boy :)

Buttworst alleges that I stated that the Nazis considered themselves superior to the Romans. In reality I wrote that it was the germans who considered themselves superior to the Romans. Buttworst's statement seems to be proof of his inability to comprehend texts, i.e. his dullness, or that he is a liar.

I suggested that present-day French, Italians and germans have little in common even with the peoples inhabiting the three parts of the split Charlemagne empire, not to mention the Romans. In reply, buttworst gave me a lecture on the alleged origin of the English, French, Italians and germans, i.e. he scribbled off the subject. I don't think he comprehended my point. Another proof of his intellectual inadequacy.

Now does buttworst deny that hitler's mother was of Jewish origin? Yes or no?

Buttwrst asks me what makes me say that his 'pride' about germany's past seems to be based on delusions rather than facts about the past.

- Your statements about germany's past seem to show that you hold extremely wrong convictions about germany's past. E.g. you seem to identify things Germanic with things german, e.g. you seem to believe that present-day germans have much to do with the Germanic leader Odoacer. Well, where's the proof of the close link between Odoacer and schroeder, merkel, or buttwrst?

Your and your ilk's convictions about germany's past are hopelessly delusional.
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But...but...but....but....LOOK AT THIS CRAP PUZZY IS PRODUCING!!!!

It's....really hard to stay calm....

I mean...come on....Hitler was jewish?

If Germanics don't have germanic roots and history what else do they have?
(Yes I know Crow means we are all slavic but he is just another nutter)

How should I react Pat???

Just for you Puzzy...straight from the Jews themselves:

"...Was Hitler Jewish?

One of the most frequently asked questions we receive is whether Adolf Hitler was Jewish or had ancestors who were. The idea seems to arise from the remote possibility that Hitler's grandfather was Jewish. Hitler's father, Alois, was registered as an illegitimate child with no father. Alois' mother worked in the home of a wealthy Jew and there is some chance a son in that household got the woman (i.e., Hitler's grandmother) pregnant. Adolf Hitler was not Jewish!"

jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/hitlerjew.html

Who is the liar here Puzzy?

Another source maybe?

"....One of Hitler's henchmen, Hans Frank, declared during the Nuremberg Trials in 1945-46, that Hitler's grandmother had worked in the town of Graz as a servant in the home of a Jewish family named Frankenberger. He further claimed that she was seduced by the head of the household and that Hitler's grandfather was the result of that liaison.

A subsequent analysis of Frank's statement by Simon Wiesenthal disclosed that there was no evidence of any Jewish family named Frankenberger ever living in Graz. What is more, Jews had been driven out of Graz in the 15th century and had not been allowed to return until 1856, nearly twenty years after Hitler's grandfather had been born.

Hitler's grandmother's maiden name was Schickelgruber. There is considerable evidence that this family produced abnormal progeny. Examples are: one of Hitler's relatives through his mother's side committed suicide in 1920, another, Aloisha had been placed in an insane asylum, another was "feeble-minded," and yet another was retarded..."


Erm...well....they are our ancestors!

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Don't you "identify" with you polish ancestors? Your polish roots? Your polish history?

re: Erm...well....they are our ancestors!

- In what way they are your ancestors, buttworst? Prove they are.
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Nope....I probably would find proof only through googling and in Wiki and we all know what you think of those sources...

Weird porn and t-shirts with David Hasselhoff.

*slinks shame faced into corner*

re: Just for you Puzzy...straight from the Jews themselves:

- Well, the apparently Jewish-Israli Jewish author suggests that the possibility that hitler was of Jewish origin is very remote, but John Toland does not seem to suggest that. The Jewish author must have a clear interest in proving that hitler had nothing to do with the Jews.

Have you read Toland, buttworst? :)

And would you deny that quite a few from hitler's entourage, such as Milch, were of Jewish origin?
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who cares about hitler,, he represented a Jerkish man, not jewish.

I wouldnt be proud of his accomplishments, he caused death even in germany
Be proud , but not of him.. he ruined germany.. even though you came out of it
just think if he didnt exist, how rich would germany be today.. much more then
it is now.. think of the losses because of him.. which is still being paid.

Sorry, buttworst, but Wiesenthal is no authority to me.
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now you two are funny!! ahhh made my night..

thanks.. :)

Ummm....what makes you think I care for Hitler???

Well, I identify with facts of Polish history, not with delusions about it.

That's why I am a smart guy, whereas you are a hopeless antithesis of me.
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Yes....Milch was jewish!

No...Hitler was not jewish!


God...I so hope I'm an anti-thesis to you Puzzy!

PS: Mods! Where did you put the smilies? Every good board has them....I miss them :(


What delusions?

Well. either way, if he was jewish or not, what would be the point in arguing
with puzzy then if you didnt feel some type of defense for him?

I have an inbred genetic failure if you must know....if someone tells crap I can't let it stand like that! Fact stays fact....

My fault...I know...:(

PS: That was actually also the reason for writing here....somehow I stumbled about one of Crows insanely writings (you know about Germans being Slavs and devilish Germany being guilty for every serbian wart)....maybe that's why my appeareance here was a bit....erm....*cough*....stormy...

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...andnowyouareallhappythatyouhavemeright? :)

Well, I am glad your opening up a bit more, least now people who claim that i am
indulging in troll territory will know now that your reasons are same as anyone
elses to defend, but, of course, you have to know in a Polish forum, your off your
turf :)

Crow.. he does have a certain way about him lol...


ahhhhhhhhh yes!!!! lol

I wont lie, its a genetic thing that I cant help.. lies are for non-genetic people lol.

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Where do you live Pat? If I may ask....I'm from Berlin!

Michigan,, good Ole US Of A :)))

Lets head over to the random chat thread..

What about "let's head to bed" ????

Nice talking to you!

'Night, till tomorrow

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dobranoc !! till tomorrow!!

Some issues are not so simple as they look like at first.
The "Nazi philosophy" as you call it, was being dynamically adjusted to the fast-changing political circumstances. The initial idea - which had appeared in Hitler's mind quite early - was antisemitism. And it was the one of the cores that lasted untouched. Hitler and his propaganda-bloodhounds "added" Slavs to the list, as they calculated, that it had been better to break the agreement with Poland, and to make an alliance with Stalin (Slavs? SLAVS!). Eastern Slavs "became" non-aryan eventually with the beginning of "Barbarossa".

That and lots of other issues make a room for neo-nazis in Poland.

re: The "Nazi philosophy" as you call it, was being dynamically adjusted to the fast-changing political circumstances

- That's right. :))))))))))))

Only does that 'dynamically adjusted' 'Nazi philosophy' is 'Nazi philosophy' any more? And who adjusts it so?

Commiefascist (called also leftist or politically correct) media psychos perhaps?
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re: That and lots of other issues make a room for neo-nazis in Poland

- Oh yes, any one whose opinions differ from those of the commiefascist marxist media hacks can be branded by the latter as 'neo-Nazi.' :))))))))

Including patriots and nationalists who in any country are the healthy part of the population.
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As fascism & national-socialism inherits a cult of expressive leader from a feudalism their ideological contents are "sound" as long as they are approved by an unfallible duce/Fuehrer/...

When a chief goes mad or too old, problems begin and the paradigm needs solid change... and the story goes on.
And now - is the marginal but perceptive movement in Poland a nazism? It depends on the definition of nazism you prefer to take. "Nazism" and "fascism" ARE fuzzy notions (vide: Walter Laqueur for instance - he struggles with them lovely) - so... the answer for such questions is tricky and blurred.

And of course you are right saying about "correctness priests" that they manipulate with these definitions. Calling somebody "a fascist" clearly relates to witchhunting and burning strange, old women for spoiling a milk and attractive girls for bewitching others' husbands. Sometimes those accusations are likely to be right, sometimes they are amusing, but they always attract crowds attention - and this is the name of the game.

Not only was Hitler rumoured to have only one testicle, but there is some documentation
that he was also a corprophiliac.

This makes me laugh ... I would re-assess this statement if I were you.

Why talking about nazism in Germany is forbidden here?

While thread about nazism in Poland is allowed... Is it really POLISH forum?

I was also wondered your topic suddenly dissappeared.
Despite I opposed to your idea nazism is a real danger in Germany, I'm unable to understand why such discission is non grata.
Maybe some ideas that Germany state reburth was a mistake were not totally politically correct but it is better to allow some free discussion in order to avoid secret rumors. It is better when Euripeans know the ideas of each other and can persuade opponents on opened discussion

I totall agree with you. I suspect, that the reason was badly understood politicall correctness (funny, that the same rule does not work when it comes to Poland, but works when it comes to Germany). I saw short explanation given by admin (or moderator) that my topic was removed by him in spite of that I did not brake any rule (his own words).

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"

G.Orwell, "Animal farm"

I'm the board-Nazi here and I get talked about all the time...just listen to the girls! :)