Nazism in Poland - A recipe for mass suicide?

re: That's why they are whining so much....

- No, we are not whining. In reality, we try to oppose the vicious german propaganda of twisting around history and portraying the germans as the victims in order to build up such a mass percepton when it will be possible for them to try to grab our territory eventually.

In realty, its the germans like you (and there are great many of them) who are whining indignantly - whining vitriolic historical lies and hoping they will get away wth that because they are strong.

What stupidity.

See who is the real troublemaker in Europe?

As always.

And when you say "like you" to whom are you referring? ;)

Shopgal, I'm referring to butty, of course. I'm replying to his scribbling.

Why would I reply like that to you, hon?

I also didnt mean its you who deem me an attention-seeker. I meant patrycja (she is a negative attention-seeker big time).

All the best. Ive gotta go now; my time limit for the internet today has been used. Now back to work.

See you soon.
:)

come back down a few notches..

some germans died saving people. I understand your strong feelings towards
those who truly are out to harm others..Sheer stupidity.. it exists in every country.

* some Gemans were victims *

the one thing I do say is they also fell Victim to the reich. listening to the lies
they are a strong nation.. no one can deny that.. but they arent the smartest
because they let one man take them into hell. something that they as a nation
will never live down.. every new generation will feel it too.

I think brat has pointed that out before,, I wish I could find that post..
something to the effects of hitler not coming into power.. if certain things played
into a different effect..


I dont ask you to read my threads and post to them..

and I didnt call you a attention seeker.. read back a few threads.. and put on your
glasses so you dont hurt yourself.

I declare today as a "Black Sunday", it was very stormy here.

re: some germans died saving people

- Really? How many? Give examples.

re: they also fell Victim to the reich

- Really? And what do you specfically mean by that? And so they all are victims after all? And who was that guy 'reich' they fell victim to?

Hm, according to patrycja's 'logic' there are only victims in the world. And the germans (who practically in 100 % backed hitler) are victims too. - It's very much what some neo-Nazis say, by the way.

re: I understand your strong feelings towards those who truly are out to harm others..

- Do you, indeed? And yet you flirt with and defend one of them on this very forum. That's because of the simlarity of your ideologies, isnt it?

re: Sheer stupidity

- I wish you pondered over whether these words have any application to yourself.

re: I dont ask you to read my threads and post to them

- Your posts are public phenomena. I have the right to react to them - to read them and reply to them, without your request to do or not to do that.

A few of them have been leveled at me. Including the one where you complain about my not replying to your posts and your being 'neglected' by moi.

Now isn't that a negative attention-seeking?
:)

Puzzler, in one sweeping statement you have completely nullified any valid point you were attempting to make here.
Your vehemently anti-deutche generalisations border on xenophobia. Are you trying to be ironic or are you just simply that stupid and unaware of your own bigoted views?

Of course many Germans died at the hands of the Nazis during WWII, homosexuals, liberals and the disabled are just a few examples. Simply being a German national was not a 'get out of jail free' card. Being German didn't automatically mean being "100 % behind Hitler" either.

Before you allude to be some snobbish pseudo-intellectual, perhaps you should learn some basic history and try to get over your own inferiority complex.

news.aol.com/story/ar/_a/israeli-neo-nazi-cell-broken-up/200709 09080309990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

I didnt want to believe that Brats statements were true , but he is right in saying
they exist all over,, Israel being the first to bring them into custody..

More countrys should be following suit and arresting those involved in such cells.

but its also good to be aware of such activities and educate so that we can prevent
future problems.

I had to read it twice Pat, it's almost impossible to believe. what the hell must their grandparents think of them?

well as they sit with their heads covered not wanting the whole world to know who
they are , what would be the point of being such a radical if you are afraid of what
the public might do? or of losing your job, losing your family?

hopefully they get punished to the fullest extent for this ( meaning some jail time)
so that they learn this type of lifestyle will not fly in this day and age.. especially
in the most Jewish country in the world Israel.

I dont know what they were thinking, apparently they werent thinking..

:)

what is the point in having scum like that on the face of the earth, it will just cost the Israeli public money, why not give them the lethal injection or whatever they do in Israel now a days. Its obvious you are not going to be able to change these people in prison so why waste the time and resources on doing so.

I agree with you to some extent. these are young men in the teens and twenties..
someones children, boys so to speak.. easily influenced.. NO they need to find out
whos responsible for this influence. especially when its involving heavy artillery.

Where the heck does a young teen get heavy artillery? guns? whos the Leader?

MY impression of Neo-nazi before was just a group of young men making some
noise and no harm or weapons .. apparently its stepped up a bit.

then it needs to be stamped out because if it really gets of the ground now it will be harder to stop in the future when the Neo-nazi's groups world wide combine, you need to get them quick and early with no mercy.

Would it not be better to try and understand them...change their views... then get them on your side.

Israel has done this : see link above..

hopefully all countries will exhibit the same and re-educate.

that is just the kind of wet view that has let the children of the UK get out of hand, gun crimes, stabbings, drunken behaviour etc etc.

over here we are generally fed up of the 'lets understand them line' its about time something was done before it gets out of hand, i.e. the youth of my country.


is only possible in those who wish to be re-educated but i take your point

Charles manson still has influence .. who can ever understand the mind of a insane
criminal?

If you ask me, I think these groups are fairly un-organized at the moment
but, should they start to get more organized.. it can be ugly

Whom ever is the influence probably is testing the waters.. see what he can
accomplish with a select few..

But I agree with you tornado, it does have to be stopped now. or controlled and
those who are involved /full investigations and freeze all monies coming to them
so that they cannot buy/purchase any type of guns/Nothing!!

The children who are out of control in the UK, from what I've read, are younger than those in the article. It is the power of the law, or lack of it, plus bad parenting that is responsible for this excessive behaviour in the UK.

Those in the article are a different class of criminal. Prison and re-education would be the best option in their case. You don't give people a lethal injection just because they are bad or are being led by fools.

I find it interesting that those in the article never killed anyone. Probably more by luck than anything else. The same can't be said for what UK teenagers are doing.

i'm sorry i still don't agree its soft and weak and works in the eyes of those who take a soft view on life.


i agree with this to a degree, if not give them the injection they need some serious jail-time and a kind of rehabilitation that they will not want to go back to :)

love it,faschist style "lethal injections" and "clear em off the streets the scum" being touted as legitimate anti fascist measures ....irony alert anyone?

just because the faschists used them it does not make it a faschist act. States in America use the lethal injection, they are not faschist and its the same for other countries that have he death penalty :)

as for getting the scum of the streets etc i don't know who would disagree with that.

So i think you can wrap your irony comment up and put it back in the bag for another day :)

thats why I said style torny,keep yer keks on mate,ive still got scars on my hand from fights with skins and NF types when i was a kid.

As for sweeping generalisations like "scum on the street" that usualy is seen as rather a far right kind of view no matter how you dress it up. Removing criminals from the street and placing them in detention after trial is fine and dandy,

As for capitol punishment,even if some states in the US do still have the barbaric arogence to presume ultimate rights over citizens lives,so what,that hardly proves or disproves anything other than faschist states are predominent in having a thing for killing people they dont want or like., ,the USA may not be a faschist entity but it shares the disregard for human right to life of said states and will do untill the death penalty is abolished.

and before the come back of " but the murder didnt respect human right to life..." big deal,murders are psycho's, govt's an leaders are meant to be rational beings.....


sorry,are they your views or theadore eicke's........
A rigerous aproach to rooting out the scurge of faschism/neo nazism is needed but not to the extent of lowering our standards of human decency to theirs imho.

Faschist
Faschrist
Fastshit
Fatgit
Fukthis

Does anyone know how to spell fascist?

fookin spelling faschisti ;)

I believe that the correct spelling is fascheratti :-)

no thanks, I prefer a nice vin rouge :)