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The Impact of Poland joining the EU


szarlotka 8 | 2,209  
19 Mar 2007 /  #1
It’s almost three years now since Poland entered the EU. Aside from the obvious impact on the relative freedom of Poles to work elsewhere in the EU, what do you consider to be the main impacts of accession, both positive and negative?
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
19 Mar 2007 /  #2
what do you consider to be the main impacts of accession, both positive and negative?

Hard to see as there generally aren't any serious impacts...
peterweg 37 | 2,321  
19 Mar 2007 /  #3
A large amount of long term investments. Growing economy.
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
19 Mar 2007 /  #4
there have been significant changes in the property market since EU entry - whether the impact of this is positive or negative we will have t wait to see and will no doubt remain a matter for debate for years to come

[price of beer seems to have risen slightly as well... which is obviously negative... ]
OP szarlotka 8 | 2,209  
19 Mar 2007 /  #5
there have been significant changes in the property market since EU entry

And my pension fund is very, very grateful :)
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
19 Mar 2007 /  #6
if things go according to plan ive already retired... :)
OP szarlotka 8 | 2,209  
19 Mar 2007 /  #7
Nice move:)

As long as my partners in Poland, Latvia, Estonia and Thailand don't do a runner so have I. Off on a whistlestop tour round the first three tomorrow for four days just to make sure they're not planning to do just that:)

In Thailand. Three villas on Koh Samui, part share in a hotel on Koh Samui. and two aprtments in BK
LoneStranger 3 | 382  
19 Mar 2007 /  #8
significant changes in the property market since EU entry

Prices gone high. Negative.
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
19 Mar 2007 /  #9
did you miss the boat LS...?
miranda  
19 Mar 2007 /  #10
BW,
a lot of Polish people missed the boat when it comes to real estate and now they are not too happy, especially the ones who were thinking of buying and didn't.
OP szarlotka 8 | 2,209  
19 Mar 2007 /  #11
Very true M. It won't be long before people are priced out of areas where they have grown up, just like here in the UK
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
19 Mar 2007 /  #12
a lot of Polish people missed the boat when it comes to real estate and now they are not too happy

yeah... im fully aware of that M, thanks... LS seems to take the opportunity to point it out whenever possible... obviously one of the unhappy ones...

dems da breaks
miranda  
19 Mar 2007 /  #13
BW,
I know that you are fully aware:)

so am I:) -but there is not need to rub it in, is there?

LS - am sorry if you missed the boat. I didn't because I didn't sell and that makes me a very happy woman:).

As for my buyer - she is a very miserable one.
Sz,
yes, you are absolutely righ and getting back to the topic - a lot of people in Poland have already suffered the consequences
hello 22 | 891  
19 Mar 2007 /  #14
While what Miranda says may make sense, I'm interested to know the opinions of Irish people (where market prices after joining the EU have dramatically risen). Have many Irish immigrants actually returned to Ireland after that?

Also, I noticed (on this forum too) there are more and more requests like "Looking for someone to sell my property in Poland, will pay high commission." So the speculators are trying to cash in, but it's not so easy to sell a Polish property for a good price anymore.
Maxxx Payne 1 | 196  
19 Mar 2007 /  #15
Do Poles want the euro ?

It was annoying that prices went up when Finland gave up it's markka and the bills look boring as s***
Maybe it is good in the long run, dunno...

If Poland joined the Euro, who or what would be in the coins ?
Polish Eagle or King Casimierz ?
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
19 Mar 2007 /  #16
Also, I noticed (on this forum too) there are more and more requests like "Looking for someone to sell my property in Poland, will pay high commission." So the speculators are trying to cash in, but it's not so easy to sell a Polish property for a good price anymore.

more and more property owners are realising that polish estate agents are not getting the results their extortionate commissions warrent...
hello 22 | 891  
19 Mar 2007 /  #17
more and more property owners are realising that polish estate agents are not getting the results

But how can they get results if the market is low as it's overpriced (and people realize it's nicer to live in nicer EU countries and higher salaries than in Poland).
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
19 Mar 2007 /  #18
But how can they get results if the market is low as it's overpriced

the current market state is fuelled by the greed of agents and vendors... if you take a dump in your bed, dont be suprised if you wake up smelling of poo...
hello 22 | 891  
19 Mar 2007 /  #19
the current market state is fuelled by the greed of agents and vendors...

That's my point too. Some of them took/take the money for a building construction in advance and don't finish the project just because according to them they should have made more than what the current market could offer. So greed is a good word.
LoneStranger 3 | 382  
19 Mar 2007 /  #20
BubbaWoo

Hmm.. :)... I guess I'll work harder.

miranda

Clever girl :) :)
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
19 Mar 2007 /  #21
Some of them took/take the money for a building construction in advance and don't finish the project just because according to them they should have made more than what the current market could offer

yup... standard practice... happened to me

Hmm.. ... I guess I'll work harder.

if you want to get on the ladder LS then perhaps we can talk :)
miranda  
19 Mar 2007 /  #22
Another benefit I have seen in Poland is a great improvement of road works.

Too many roundabouts for my taste but it definately eased up the traffic somewhat and improved a general safety.
Maxxx Payne 1 | 196  
19 Mar 2007 /  #23
But horsecarts are not allowed anymore ! :) Example of how EU and standards also make world duller place. Maybe that's price for progress.
miranda  
19 Mar 2007 /  #24
Maax,

good point. Poland is still interesting to me. It will take a long time to get those Polish people to change and that's a beauty of it:)
peterweg 37 | 2,321  
19 Mar 2007 /  #25
But horsecarts are not allowed anymore ! Example of how EU and standards also make world duller place. Maybe that's price for progress.

Thats a joke isn't it?

They aren't even banned in central London. Not very common anymore after the Young's Brewery stopped using them a couple of years back.
daffy 23 | 1,508  
12 Apr 2007 /  #26
Another benefit I have seen in Poland is a great improvement of road works.

id definitely agree with this statement. Each time i visit, there is some new road or road re-developed and each time it just gets better and better
witek 1 | 587  
12 Apr 2007 /  #27
Maxx Paynee said "But horsecarts are not allowed anymore ":(

horse drawn wagons are used everyday throughout Poland :)
Giles  
13 Apr 2007 /  #28
horse drawn wagons are used everyday throughout Poland

I've seen quite a few and those were on the motorway

Huge EU investment in Polands infastructure. Roads, airports. Huge movement of labour out of Polska. Unemployment has gone down. Very large recepient of direct foreign investment. Many large corporations moving buisness to Poland and creating jobs, e.g Intel near Gdansk.
Aniolek 2 | 22  
13 Apr 2007 /  #29
While what Miranda says may make sense, I'm interested to know the opinions of Irish people (where market prices after joining the EU have dramatically risen). Have many Irish immigrants actually returned to Ireland after that?

Also, I noticed (on this forum too) there are more and more requests like "Looking for someone to sell my property in Poland, will pay high commission." So the speculators are trying to cash in, but it's not so easy to sell a Polish property for a good price anymore.

Seeing as you asked for an Irish opinion......
Although prices are up & inflation is over 5% already for this year I would still rather be in the EU. It was 35 years ago that we joined and things were much worse then. High unemployment, high taxes, Industrial strikes and of course the violence up north.

Things are alot better now!
Giles  
13 Apr 2007 /  #30
THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER, CAN ONLY GET BETTER NOW THAT WERE, EU....

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