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"We buy out Poland, Hungary, and Romania!" - the President of Israel


yehudi  1 | 433  
12 Feb 2009 /  #31
Aha, so it's ok for the President of Israel to say such ridiculous and far-reaching things

What did he say?
Seanus  15 | 19666  
12 Feb 2009 /  #32
Well, like the above OR advocating a disproportionate response which flies in the face of international law and decency.
ela_lawyer  5 | 64  
12 Feb 2009 /  #33
What did he say?

The 'YouTube' link of the original posting seems to be dead. Here is one that works:



On the 10th of October, 2007, at Hotel Hilton in Tel-Aviv, Israeli President Shimon Peres stated the following:

"From such a small country like ours [Israel], this is almost amazing. I see that we [the Jewish people] are buying up Manhattan, Hungary, Romania, and Poland. And the way I see it, we have no problems. Thanks to our talent, our contacts and our dynamism, we get almost everywhere."

After viewing the video for my first time today, I'm left speechless at the arrogance and nerve of Shimon Peres to make such a statement. On another note, at least he's being honest on what the situation is and how he feels.
jonni  16 | 2475  
12 Feb 2009 /  #34
are buying up Manhattan, Hungary, Romania, and Poland.

Hmmmm...

If President Kaczynski made a speech saying that thanks to dynamism etc, Polish investors are buying up Manhattan, Hungary etc and that it's almost amazing, would you be "speechless at his arrogance" or proud?
ela_lawyer  5 | 64  
12 Feb 2009 /  #35
Yes, I would consider it to be an arrogant speech either way, by Peres or Kaczynski.

It should also be pointed out, that Israel has been receiving an average of over $2 billion in economic and miltary aid for the last countless years from the USA. This is where Shimon Peres's speech becomes arrogant. He attributes the success of Jewish investment in Manhattan, Hungary, Poland, etc to Jewish "talent" and "dynamism", but fails to mention that Israel's economy and wealth has been largely propped up, sustained, and created solely by US aid. Without such aid, Israel would never exist as it does today nor would Israelis have the standard of living they currently have.
JulietEcho  3 | 100  
12 Feb 2009 /  #36
- All true Ela, but now do you relate this to Poland...? No economy - everything was "privatized", pretty much the only items Poland still produces on a large scale are dill pickles, corrupted "democracy" that fits more in south America than Europe, corrupted law enforcement system - not too while ago I think an ex-minister was, by court ruling, apologizing to a doctor that proved to be corrupt, foreign owned mass media that are owned either by jews or Germans. Poland as it stands attracts all kinds malfeasance from all aver the world and since "the chosen nation" have always specialized in such, here goes your answer: We are the Nation of Goys...
joepilsudski  26 | 1387  
12 Feb 2009 /  #37
Kaczynski never made such a statement...Shamir did...And, almost overlooked on this Polish discussion thread the words '....and Manhattan.'...Of course...Many Americans are already aware of this, and the fact that in the whole 'financial bailout' scam, the main players ar all Jews...The board of directors of the FED, FED head Bernanke, the new US Treasury Secretary Geithner, the head of JPMorgan/Chase Jamie Dimon and on and on...I am sorry if Jews take offense; maybe they should open their eyes and understand what is happening here...facts are facts, and the truth has consequences.

Sure, let's live peacefully...What would Palestinians, especially those who reside in Gaza have to say about 'Jewish peace'?...And, young one, the Catholic Church did not start in Jerusalem...That was where Jesus was murdered by the Pharisees, who used their 'powers of persuasion' to badger Pilate into making the decision...Just as the Jewish neo-cons badgered Bush into slaughtering 1 million Iraqis and breaking up that country in the interest of 'Yisrael'...Christianity started before the foundation of the world, but was made manifest in the birth of Christ in Bethlehem...The Catholic Church as we know it began in Rome...This is why we say 'Roman Catholicism'...And, if we aim to get things right, the true 'Israel' the spiritual descendants of Abraham, Issac and Jacob are Christians...The political state of 'Israel' is a counterfeit.
ela_lawyer  5 | 64  
12 Feb 2009 /  #38
All true Ela, but now do you relate this to Poland...?

If you read 'jonni's question to me, "If President Kaczynski made a speech saying that thanks to dynamism etc, Polish investors are buying up Manhattan, Hungary etc and that it's almost amazing, would you be "speechless at his arrogance" or proud?"

Jonii brought in President Kaczynski into the argument, not me. So, I answered the question including Poland in it because Kaczynski is the president of Poland.
joepilsudski  26 | 1387  
12 Feb 2009 /  #39
And Juliet, who bought these 'privatized' industries?...Was it Poles, or Polish money?
HatefulBunch397  - | 658  
12 Feb 2009 /  #40
Joe, if you really want to get in touch with your Christian roots I suggest you book the next flight to Israel and take a tour and see the real Christianity like thousands of Christians have done. You will get a better appreciation. The Church of the Holy Sepulchre, known as the Church of the Resurrection (Anastasis) is a good place for you to start.
joepilsudski  26 | 1387  
12 Feb 2009 /  #41
Can you suggest a Jewish/Israeli organization that might help subsidize my trip?..There are many 'Christian/Zionist' groups in the US that run trips to Israel, but all they want is money, and they also bring millions in tourist dollars to Israel...But a trip for me could be good for Israeli PR...the story would go like 'Christian 'Anti-Semite' Is Guest of Israeli Government: A Journey to Discover True Christian Roots'...It would make the feature page in Ha'aretz.
HatefulBunch397  - | 658  
12 Feb 2009 /  #42
Hey, that's a good idea. I think I might look for one to subsidize mine while I'm at it ;)
joepilsudski  26 | 1387  
12 Feb 2009 /  #43
We will both go, and the television documentary will be titled 'A Polish Journey for Peace to the Holy Land'.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
12 Feb 2009 /  #44
Or maybe not... ;)
PolskaMan  2 | 147  
12 Feb 2009 /  #45
I dont think no one in Poland would even want that we need money for Euro 2012 not this.
ela_lawyer  5 | 64  
12 Feb 2009 /  #46
Can you suggest a Jewish/Israeli organization that might help subsidize my trip?

Perhaps Madoff's wife can subsidize your trip? :-)
HatefulBunch397  - | 658  
13 Feb 2009 /  #47
We will both go, and the television documentary will be titled 'A Polish Journey for Peace to the Holy Land'.

It's a great idea, Joe!
But first I want to mention something about one of your posts. You mentioned jewish bankers and how they benefited from the bailout. But you did not mention all the others who also benefited. Yes, it's a mess but you have to look at the entire picture. One thing you have to keep in mind, 9/11. It dealt a tremendous blow to the US. Right after it happened, naive person that I am, even I knew that it was going to fuck things up tremendously sooner or later. Right after it happened people were flocking to the gas stations filling their tanks up because they thought there would be huge gas shortages. Anyone with half a brain knew that gas prices would go up. Question was, how much? President Bush assured people it wouldn't happen but he lied. It happened, just not overnight. There are many factors here. It's not just the fault of "them jewish bankers". They are merely a few of the actors in this play.

Why didn't you mention the rapid rise in the cost of barrels of crude? This kind of thing is what really annoys me and gets me so angry. You blame jews when it's so obvious it's OPEC that has the world by the freakin' balls!!!!

It is incorrect to single jews out and blame them for the entire mess that is, at times, the human race. You have to look at everyone's role, not just ONE ethnic group.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
13 Feb 2009 /  #48
Will you "document the event", HB?
Sokrates  8 | 3335  
13 Feb 2009 /  #49
Jews, what would the world be without them ? Lets find out :)
Seanus  15 | 19666  
13 Feb 2009 /  #50
Ouch, that was a bit too hard hitting, Sokrates
HatefulBunch397  - | 658  
13 Feb 2009 /  #51
Madoff's

I think his last name had a lot to do with the path he went down. His last name sounds like "Made Off". It was a self fulfilling prophecy, IMO.

I think it would be much more productive to find out what it would be like if NO ONE had to depend on crude oil ever again :)

Let's fund projects that will lower the demand for crude oil, shall we? So we will never have to buy another barrel of it again:D
Sokrates  8 | 3335  
13 Feb 2009 /  #52
Ouch, that was a bit too hard hitting, Sokrates

Almost as hard hitting as buying up Poland ?
HatefulBunch397  - | 658  
13 Feb 2009 /  #53
youtube.com/watch?v=2rnrlT45pzI

The video has been removed by Youtube because TOS violation but I checked the link. It's a nice tower and, actually, a good opportunity to get a decent building. Man, if they were building it here no one would complain! That is a moneymaker. Anytime someone wants to build something that is going to mean millions for the local economy it's worth it around here.

The chinese were going to build something here and had to back out because of the economy. It was unfortunate for us.
If Warsaw doesn't want that building, TELL THEM TO COME HERE!! We'll take it. Without hesitation.
dtaylor  9 | 823  
13 Feb 2009 /  #54
I really don't get this thread. Seems odd to me. Countries go out of their way to get foreign investment, it's part of building a stable economy. Look at the Irish investment in Krakow, it's a huge market, but now because Jews are involved, it seems to be a "problem".
Sokrates  8 | 3335  
13 Feb 2009 /  #55
it seems to be a "problem".

There's business and there's "lets buy 'em out".
dtaylor  9 | 823  
13 Feb 2009 /  #56
Buy who out, Poland will always belong to the Polish people. Like Seanus said, it will create jobs for local workers, boost economy, and bring in more investment into the area.

So what's the problem, are you telling me i can't buy land in this country and do what the hell i like with it?
Seanus  15 | 19666  
13 Feb 2009 /  #57
The regulation of land, as we know, comes from title deeds. After that, subject to very limited exceptions, you are free to exercise it as you wish.

International buyovers/buyouts, how often do you hear of that?
dtaylor  9 | 823  
13 Feb 2009 /  #58
Quite often really, but why is this info needed, when we live in free world?
HatefulBunch397  - | 658  
13 Feb 2009 /  #59
There's business and there's "lets buy 'em out".

No no no, lol, they are not going to buy you out they are going to invest and believe me, you guys will be the winners the more investors you can find. It will help your economy.

Don't listen to the paranoia of Seanus up there.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
13 Feb 2009 /  #60
What paranoia? I was talking about the merits of investment and dtaylor backed me up on this. HB, must you always take me wrong? If that is indeed a quote then a buy out is pretty clear to any native speaker. You take over the business concern in question.

You have just bolstered what I and my main man dtaylor were saying, that investment is a good thing.

So, your point please!!

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