The government of the PRL has absolutely nothing to do with the modern day government - although you might want to see it that way, I think it's well established that the Mazowiecki government was a clean break from the governments of the past. You simply cannot compare a government in a puppet regime to a democratically elected government!
The fact that you want 'today's rate' for the property says it all - you're simply interested in the money. A fair rate would be to pay you the value of the land in the day that it was seized. Anyone who was interested in seeing a wrong righted would accept that quite happily - but unfortunately, it seems to be a huge problem among the 'Polonia' that they want to come back and take what they believe to be theirs without a damn for the social consequences - of which they don't care because they don't live in Poland anyway.
As for 'now they have to give it back' - with an attitude like that, you'll struggle to get far in modern day Poland. I can't imagine many people resident in Poland will have much sympathy for someone who lives in a much wealthier country trying to force the Polish government into giving them even more money - especially when the Polish government can't even afford to deal with the problem of child poverty in Poland!
My family worked hard to get that farm. It is my duty as the last living heir to claim that land. I can't let bygones be bygones. If that is how the world worked, then all the governments could just take land from people and that was that.
Again, what has the current government got to do with the puppet government of the PRL? Absolutely nothing. Perhaps there might be some social responsibility to compensate people with the amount of money that the land was worth when it was seized - but beyond that?
The fact that you're talking about it being 'your duty' is betraying the fact that you simply want to get even more money. I could understand the sentimental reasons for wanting the land back - but the fact that you're just attempting to grasp money means you're getting no sympathy from me.
In not doing that you risk our future...
Referring back to the Polonia - it's quite clearly obvious that many of them don't give a damn about Poland today and that they're just interested in the money. This is just yet another example - and it's sad that they have absolutely no social responsibility towards the Polish state, yet they expect the State to have social responsibility towards them.
Because I don't have to if it's already mine. My family owns land.
Obviously, you don't understand the issues whatsoever. It certainly isn't yours at the moment, although you can launch a possible claim. There's no guarantee of success - and personally, I find it sickening that you're happy to take money from a poor Polish state struggling massively with the budget just to fund your undoubtably-luxurious lifestyle in a very wealthy country.
Besides, do you know how much a 100 hectars of land costs nowadays? Especially now that Poland are in the EU and all the european companies are investing in land. Why would I want to buy another piece of land? Where would I get all that money from? What if the new government in the future takes THAT land away from me. And my grandson wants it back one day....or should he ALSO buy NEW land...wow, I'm getting dizzy...
Have you considered the fact that perhaps your late father attempted to claim the land and was unsuccessful?
My family still lived in Poland after the war, but I have found no paper that they claimed it back.
Doesn't mean they didn't. Perhaps instead of seeing Zloty everywhere, you might want to spend more time investigating what's actually happened on the ground.
I agree - but for all nationalities. Touching the status quo after so many years doesn't make sense.
I think giving back property in the first place was a massively bad move to make - sure, it appeased the already-wealthy Polonia - but at what cost? Of course, you end up with already wealthy individuals simply getting richer at the expense of many people who did absolutely nothing wrong.
Sometimes I have the feeling that the Polish and Czech governments are a little bit to eager to prevent Germans and others from reclaiming property lost after WW2. Is it because they fear (but do not admit) that those claims are legitimate?
The problem isn't so much the claims being legitimate, but rather the instability caused by valid claims. Can you imagine the bill for the Sudetenland alone? It would bankrupt the Czech state - and likewise, I can't imagine Poland has the money to pay for all the potential claims that Germans might have at the moment.
This thread just goes to show what the Polonia in particular are doing - does anyone actually believe that the individual will spend any of the money (if he gets it) in Poland? I doubt it.
As I understand it, many Poles would like their property back in and around Lwów too. But they have no chance - so they're doing the logical thing and simply buying up Lwów. The same thing happened with Wroclaw and Germans - and I think this is the best solution.
Anyway - does the Polish state really want to pay money to a thinly-disgused God-hating racist?https://polishforums.com/news/poland-mass-immigration-article-response-38990/