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Happy Birthday Mr. Fascist (ie. Roman Giertych)


espana 17 | 950  
29 Feb 2008 /  #31
You have made some anti-socialist statements in the past so you cannot be a fascist. [/quote
[quote=lesser] Every fascist is a socialist from definition

i m not sure about this. explain that please

Being fascist is pretty pathetic

not a lot
In October 1933 José Antonio Primo de Rivera established the Falange Española (Spanish Falange). In its manifesto published later that year the Falange condemned socialism, Marxism, republicanism and capitalism and proposed that Spain should become a Fascist state
lesser 4 | 1,311  
29 Feb 2008 /  #32
[i]fascism
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralizedautocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economicand social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

Fascism is founded on socialism like communism. If you replace in this definition nationalism/racism by internationalism then you have basically definition of communism. The point is that fascists and communists hate each other so much because they consist two radical parts of the same socialist camp. They are worth each other, they would ruin every country in which they would gain the power. (and this is pathetic)
espana 17 | 950  
29 Feb 2008 /  #33
the Falange condemned socialism, Marxism, republicanism and capitalism and proposed that Spain should become a Fascist state

so what do you think about this?
southern 74 | 7,074  
29 Feb 2008 /  #34
Fascism is founded on socialism like communism

Very wrong.Fascism has nothing to do with communism.There is only one similarity.They use the same methods to gain power,what was described in the '30s as gangster methods.Basically the Bolsheviks invented them and Mussolini imitated them giving inspiration to Hitler.Both had seriously studied the methods used by communists.
lesser 4 | 1,311  
29 Feb 2008 /  #35
From what I have read about Primo de Riviera, I would take him over Mussolini but still this is unacceptable. Old Falange consisted important but for the sake of Spain just a part of the Francist camp in the civil war. Indeed Spain is good example to to proof my point. After the civil war old Falange (good at battlefield) was the most influential part in coalition. However for the sake of Spain they could not do whether they wanted, other groups prevented them from taking total control. In effect although Spanish economy struggled, the country was not completely devastated. With time Franco noticed that this model simply don't work and Falange lost its importance, while people from Opus Dei liberalized economy and brought prosperity. Thus Falange was great to help take the power from the reds but very bad when running the country. This is because fascism is like communism, economic model is almost the same. If communism don't work then neither fascism.
espana 17 | 950  
29 Feb 2008 /  #36
is true , i agree with that.
but all the spanish falangistas are from the opus dei in spain........so is difficult





lesser 4 | 1,311  
2 Mar 2008 /  #37
Fascist Falange of Jose Antonio Primo de Riveria before the civil war was a different party from united francist Falange after the civil war.

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