Germany seeks extadition of Sobibor death camp guard.

Joe, they might not want to live there. If I was a jew I would rather live in US than Russia.

They don't have to go...They could stay in Palestine, or anywhere else they wished...Only Israel would no longer be for Jews only...It would be a new state of Palestine, one man, one vote and no discrimination.

I don't think it would be the same because there's no connection to the land like in Israel.
They want to be there Because of Isaac, Abraham, the twelve tribes and because God said it's their place.

Besides, they would rather be in NYC than that place in Russia.


You think they want to live in Russia, Seanus? I would think NY considering the orthodox community existing there now.

I don't know, people often come up with surprises.

When did Jesus Christ say 'Khazars, this is your land forever...Kill everyone and build gambling casinos'?

Jesus was one messiah, Joe, and jews have many of them, as you know. They also had false messiahs. Why would Jesus need to say build gambling casinos?

Here's a good question, Joe, ask yourself this: was Jesus a false messiah

Well Harry i'd adress your post if it was not such biased crap:)

False messiah?...He wasn't a 'messiah'...He was the Son of God/Son of Man..Jesus never claimed to be a 'Jewish messiah' because He wasn't...Number one, there were no 'Jews' as you think of them...Number two, Jesus wasn't 'Jewish'...You have been brainwashed...And don't understand the Bible, if you have ever read it...And you confuse 'messiah' with 'mosiach'...This 'mosiach' is a construction of Chabad Lubavitch, the Khazar 'Jews'...And I could care less about the Jews 'mosiach', except for the fact that they occupy the Holy Land and have nuclear weapons to conjure this 'mosiach'.

All this time the claim has been Jesus is Jewish and yet he wasn't? The claim is Jews killed Jesus and yet he wasn't even Jewish? Joe, Jesus is the saviour. That is what a messiah is. His followers thought he would save the jews. He was jewish too. His mother, Mary, was a jew and according to Talmudic law, if the mother is jewish so are the children. In the bible it says Jesus was from the King David/Solomon line too, he was prophesied.

Plenty of people think he's a false messiah and is leading people to destruction. Is something to think about, Joe, my friend.

Jesus' lineage is completely unknown and based on allegations.


We 'know' Jews killed Jesus, we know he existed, we dont know if he was Jewish (though in all probability he was).


With an armed uprising.


In the same bible it says bushes talk, remember that its a book written by people with sympathies and views, it should not be taken at face value.


No they are not, Jesus is considered a prophet and a positive figure by virtually all religions save Judaism.

I think that you are trying to divert attention from Poland’s despicably hypocritical treatment of concentration camp commanders accused of mass murder by raising for discussion a topic in no way related to the prosecution or extradition of concentration/extermination camp guards.


You mean that the IPN are biased? All of my quotes are either from the IPN or from the letters sent by the Israeli government. No bias: just facts.

Here’s another fact: you got caught lying repeated yet again. You are pathetic.

Here’s one last fact for you: today is the 23rd day since you claim to have reported me to the police for the heinous crime of insulting the Polish nation by stating that Poland ran concentration camps. You claim that “last time we nailed someone it took them [the police] 23 days” so I should be expecting a knock on the door today, eh?

If he wasn't a jew then how did he end up being born in Israel to a jewish family? The same book that tells you that jews killed jesus tells you that he was descended from David and was the messiah promised by the jewish prophets, that he visited the jewish temple in jerusalem, that he celebrated Passover.

Not that I care, but you're making nonsense of your own religion. For my part it's possible he never lived at all and the whole story is a fabrication. But isn't it interesting that only part you believe is that the Jews killed him. What does that say about you?

Please don't post facts in reply to Sokrate's lies. Facts only confuse him.


That he's a bigoted lying racist. But is this something which we didn't know already?

Yehudi, we could even argue whether Jesus existed given that his crucifiction and the three day ressurrection is a clear sun cycle visible in Egyptian Horus thing, Celtic and Aztec religion, its basically a recycle of old pagan beliefs concerning the sun and the serpent, Jews recycled the old Sumer beliefs of the same category and gave the sun a name "Jesus".


As well as of your religion and of Islam, these three religions are based on symbolics of earlier pagan religions and fabricate facts at will, for example there was no Noah, ever.

The entire myth of Noah is taken from the Sumerian myths of deluge. Same goes for much of the Bible, Torah and Koran, we dont know if Jesus even existed or was he simply a personified symbol so making him a Jew is tricky.

If he existed he could for example be Greek or even Roman, we're not dealing with a practical source when we talk about the Bible.

Most believe he existed because of The Dead Sea scrolls. In Israel, you can take tours and a guide tells people about the history. A fascinating journey back in time for anyone who's interested. I'm sure scholars the world over have attended.

Another myth it seems...


haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1070797.html

This is very strange...Anyway, Israel is a fascinating journey of self discovery for any devout Christian. If I were a devout Christian or a scholar interested in learning more, I would visit the country. If I were interested in the history of the entire region, I would visit Egypt and Italy too.

Thats nice.


Of how the dead sea scrolls contain no reference to Jesus whatsoever?


Attended a rubbish lecture by tour guides? Maybe that explains why you thought the scrolls said anything about Jesus, they did not.

Actually, I was relying on what an Israeli said. I haven't made an indepth study. But it's interesting, isn't it?

I could go on how Judaism is basically an adaptation of much much older religions and myths, the deluge, the creation, forbidden fruit, tower of Babel, all of these are much older than Judaism and can be found worldwide in various forms, in Egypt for example the crucification of Jesus is presented as the death of Horus who gets back from the dead after three days under the cross shaped constellation.


Whether Jesus existed? Yes it is but i would not take anything Christianity or Judaism says at face value.

We all know never to take anything you say at face value.

I note that you have no comment to make about you being caught telling anti-semitic lies yet again. Perhaps one day you will have no anti-semitic lies to tell.

You're an anti-polish idiot, i take that at face value alliright:)

Care to discuss any of the facts I posted to refute your lies? I somehow doubt you can or will.

In other news, I'm now on my 24th day of freedom after you reporting me to the police for the serious crime of pointing out that Poland ran concentration camps. Maybe you should give them another ring?

Deportation stay revoked for Nazi war crimes suspect Demjanjuk

article.wn.com/view/2009/04/06/Deportation_stay_revoked_for_Nazi_war_crimes_suspect_Demjanj/

I think its absolutely dreadful that this monster has got away with such crimes for so long.
However what do others think? Should he be deported or do you think he is to old and let bigons be bigons?

The Israelis had him before, they judged him, they let him go...I don't see what the fuss is all about!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Demjanjuk#Trial_in_Israel


They should make a deal about an exchange with this guy:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salomon_Morel

In my opinion German press writes so much about this guy because he is Ukrainian, if he had German name ... situation would be much different.

(it is not German link but I am talking about this whole situation)

Secondly, German press referes to this camp in articles as about Polish concentration camp ... what is not mistake but rather Goebbels propaganda...

this article is right :


As to Morel. In my opinion, Isrealis should teach about him in schools to get rid off vicim complex.

There is not much stuff about it in the german press actually...just observing this game of ping pong...most are just puzzled!

spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,618966,00.html


For Germans it doesn't matter if it was "real" Germans or native helpers...

(Only that - of course - after the war was lost ALL baddies were only the Germans, and all others just poor victims..of course)

exactly. I mean he did terrible things and he should have been punished but now he is barely alive anyway so leave him alone. He ain't got much left.

To Salomon
No you're wrong man, even if he was German, they would nail his butt down. They did it many times before too.

I've noticed that when German press writte about camps which were build do kill POLES and Jews ... they often use term Polish concentration camp. Later they excuse ... (small information on last page) and then use this term again on first page ... and excuse (small information on last page) ...

Well...so did the british press and most others.
Nobody (besides Poles) cared if they were called polish or german camps as for most of the time everybody knew what was talked about.
(Till Poland protested that is)

But I agree, it's a bit of a curious situation...the camps are in Poland and people often see only the connection "camp - Poland", jewish groups have to wander around Poland to get to experience a bit of the Holocaust etc...not easy...