Polish-German Relations in the Present

true

well noticed

Is there any echo in Polish public about especial `German interests` in situation on Balkan. What are chances that Polish and Serbian elites combine interests like (for example) in time of Polish Chartorsky during Koscusko Uprising?

Bozidar Djelic for ‘Blic’ from Berlin

Germany deciding about Kosovo’s fate

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Author: Katarina Preradović | 26.10.2007 - 06:01

What do Germans have to do with Kosovo ?...


Enough of the Kaczynskis in Poland (against Germany), except that they are not elites, just ducks :D LoL

Polson

its Germany all the time, trying to re-establish control over Balkan and divide region on two zones of influence- German and Turkish (Islamic). But, they miscalculates and pushed things too hard

As respond on German pressure and interferance in internal affairs, Serbia started to point on German internal organization. Few hours ago I heard statement on TV that `Germany should worry about Eastern Germany more then about Kosovo` [news is fresh, when i found it on the Net I`ll post it]

One article in case with events

Belgrade rejects Ischinger Kosovo idea

30 October 2007 | 13:41 -> 16:58 | Source: Tanjug

b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2007&mm=10&dd=30&nav_id=44978

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Poles, brothers, don`t be German puppet if they tries to use Poland (thru NATO) for their plans. Resist to them Poles and help us, as we- Racowie were with you in time of your need!

I can't react about this, as i don't know enough...

sure, for 15 years Serbia and Serbs were isolated and encircled with wall of anti-Serbian propaganda

Let`s say, things are `a little bit` different then was previously presented to Slavic, European and World public.

join us leave Russia ...

Ah, you didn`t understand Luk

its about Russia and all other Slavs joining (arround) Serbia, its about spiritual potential and fact that Serbia and Serbs represent last active center/population of ancient united Slavic civilization. That center and that people refusing to die, to forget and all the time screaming for re-union despite all ods

its not matter of size of country/population, just Serbs has potential to change things, to awake and that`s why we are target

Democracy, nature, tolerance, dignity, progress!

german ppl are fine,just fine but they hate polish nation..and that's not that fine.

Anyway, i would support dissolution of German state and liberation of Slavs which are under German occupation

Those who are hostile on Slavs should think twice (at least) before they harm our children.

i would also suggest dissolution of false Turkish state which are always in some deal/scheme with Germans/Nemci (Mute)

then, we can speak about new start for Europe, in era without humiliation of Slavs

It seams that we will have turning point in Polish - German relationship ...

There is new German proposal and it is better than they were offering few time ago, and Germans are prepared for negotiations so we will take more than they offer now ... the most interesting is case of holding one line in EU realtionships with Russia, but we have to wait for details and visit of our new PM in Berlin ...

I don`t know brate but, seam to me that Germany is on the war path on Serbia and Serbs in general. So, why would Poland seek to improve relations with Germany in this situation. They have Serbian blood on their hands and they want more blood.

We- Serbs don`t expect that Poles mistake and found themselves in great troubles because of eventual radical solidarity with us over Slavic connections but we expect that Poland wisely and carefully, diplomaticaly support Serbian suveregnity and rights of Serbian nation.

It is obvious, our destines are connected and always were. If German influence strenghten on Balkan, that would greately affect Polish strategic situation on the short and on the long run.

So Poles, brothers and sisters, we expect at least moral support and we want to see that religious differences doesn`t represent problem in relations between Poles and Racowie.

Freedom to Poles! Freedom to Serbs! Glory to Slavs!

Look my brothers and sisters how German schemes work. On one side they pretend to play `nice` game with Poland and on the other side, they weakening Slavic South. They are beasts. They always were just beasts- their anti-Slavic elite and their fanatics. Same way how they deal with us, they would tomorrow deal with Poland. Help us Poles, so that we are capable to help you when the moment come. After all, we already helping Poland.

“Germany will recognize Kosovo”

5 November 2007 | 12:39 | Source: Beta, Tanjug

b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2007&mm=11&dd=05&nav_id=451 34


Interesting development... :)

We want you for the Polish army!

and, good move! This should show that Poland seriously mean to defend her suveregnity and state integrity. This also can boost economy is some areas

freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1921268/posts

Polish Radio External Service ^ | 05.11.2007 | Joanna Najfeld

Posted on 11/05/2007 11:50:17 AM PST by lizol

05.11.2007

I agree that forcing Serbs to beg on knees for mercy is wrong ... but in case of Kosovo it seams that your part of Europe is traditionaly place where the bigest powers have their puppils ... Germans preffere Albanians, Russians preffere Serbs ...

As to German - Polish relationships ... maybe we dont like each other (it is enought to watch handball tournamnet in Germany and see how Germans were welcoming our team ...) but we have some businesses to do together. I think that Tusk vist in Berlin will be very interesting ...

it is article in Polish ... but the fact is that we buy eastern Germany, because their properites are chiper ... :) we buy them not they us

so my dear friends ... drank nach west ;)


I quoted myself ;) ... it wasnt interesting :P

With the relationship between Germans and Poles is like with the relationship between blacks and whites in the US. At first it was a racism from whites toward the blacks and now it turned the other way around (in most of the cases anyway). Nowadays it seems like the Germans don't feel as much hatred toward Poles as the Poles toward the Germans. I lived in both countries long enough to make this statement.

there is no "racism" between germany and poland. i grew up and still hold the passport of one of these nations to make this statement... ;-)

the history between both is very mixed up and unfortunately there are many prejudices from both sides towards each others. mostly they come from less educated people...

generally though the relationship between both countries is constantly improving...

- Well said, falkster. Let's hope we can overcome the mutual adversity and suspiciousness eventually. And let's help it happen - also on this forum.

:)

great thought guys. You're the new hope for both folks to solve your eternal problem.
Just a little note on a side Puzzler, I didn't call it a racism between Poles and Germans but hatred :-)

- Maybe you called it right? Whatever it is, it would be good to get rid of it. Hopefully it's possible. If not, then, well, be it.

:)

No, Germany and Poland will never mend their animosity. It will always be there, underlying or visible. It is in their nature.

I can only tell you that most of the people (especially young people) I've met in Germany (western part) made positive statements about Poles :-)

- That sounds really hopeful indeed. We had one German guy coming to this forum, but he sounded like a crazy Polonophobe of the neo-Nazi and Erika Steinbach ilk.

I suspect that the Germans aren't bad people and that those who may set them against us are the usual suspects - media psychopaths. They are as bad in Germany as, for instance, in UK, or indeed in Poland.

By the way, are you German, Philips?

Puzzler you disappoint me with your pro-German mindset. The further Poland moves away from Germany, and towards our Slavic brothers in the east, not necesseraly Russia, the better.

sure...
why?
ever heard of europe?

- That is quite possible. Yet all people of good will should try to mend it.

Anyhow, I think that Poland's 'bad destiny' has ended and that we have a bright future ahead of us, no matter whether Germany should be friendly towards us or not.

rubbish...
no one can change?
how is progress possible then anywhere at this planet??
ever the pessimist...

- Good questions! By the way, by 'Europe' you mean the EU, don't you?

I think and hope that Polish and German ties will get better, conflicts are never good and bring sh!t ;)

can't see why the mindful people in germany should not be friendly towards poland...

it is people like filios who enters a thread that had a perfectly positive ending to stirr things up in a rather stupid populist manner and be simply disruptive...

very wrong and narrowminded...

- I'd like to ask you what you mean by all that? I'm not pro-German nor Germanophobe (in spite of some Germanophobic statements made in anger in reply to a neo-Nazi creep who was coming to this forum and insulted us full blast). I'd love it if the Germans liked us and we liked them. We've been neighbours for over 1000 years; it's time to start liking each other. Being friendly and neighbourly towards the Gerries doesn't preclude being friendly towards 'Slavic brothers,' whomever they may be.

true...


by europe i mean everybody who sees himself as part of the community...

- He's quite a character. No reason to worry about this fellow.
:)))

How about the extremists and populists in Germany?