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GERMAN PSYCHOPATHS INSULTING POLISH PEOPLE


Puzzler 9 | 1,089  
2 Apr 2007 /  #1
It's a pity that the topic 'Germans file WWII claims against Poland' has been closed and nothing can be posted there [actually, the offensive messages have been deleted and the topic was re-opened. Admin]. Hence I am opening this topic as a sort of continuation of the above-mentioned topic, namely, i'd like to address the rants and vulgar 'jokes' of the psychopath and Polonophobic racist calling himself 'a German.'

Hm, so does the psychopath calling himself 'a German' express what they teach in German schools about the Polish people and Poland? Is it what the Germans say to each other about us? If so, isn't it significant indeed? - In spite of the horrible things the Germans have been doing to us for ages, they are not showing any remorse, only ridicule us?

Well, wouldn't it be right to assert that the Germans are not what they like to think of themselves - 'the nation of great poets, composers, and philosophers,' but a nation of bullies-psychopaths? :)

(By the way, their only good philosopher, Nietzche (the rest of them - Kant, Hegel, Fichte, Heidegger, are basically trash) announced proudly that he was Polish, not German.:))

Hm, yes, indeed, we don't have our own nukes, and we heavily, and reluctantly, depend on others - at present the Yanks - for ourt safety.

And our country is still ruined and still getting back on its feet after the Russian, or 'communist,' occupation, and before that, the German ruinous occupation during WWII.

And we still carry the burden of the German and Russian partitions of our country in the 18-19th centuries.

What were those partitions about? - The Germans could not beat us on their own so they allied themselves with the Russians and together they managed to partition Poland and erase her name from the map for some 120 years, until the year 1918.

It's not true that the Germans always beat us; it was rather vice-versa up to the 18th century. We beat them time after time in the Middle Ages. And later we were stronger just as well. Recall the siege of Vienna by the Turks in 1683, when the Germans kissed our King Sobieski's boots to save them. (What fools indeed we were to help them!) Recall the Thirty Years War, when not only powerful Poland, but any crappy little European nation trampled the Germans like dirt.

The Germans say that 'Danzig' - our Gdansk - has always been German, but in reality they robbed the city from us, along with a huge chunk of our territory - only in the 18th century.

Thus it wasn't any alleged Versailles injustice that Gdansk was returned to us after WWI.

And during the German-Russian partitions, the Germans attempted to destroy our national spirit, to Germanize us; they attempted to force us not to use our language, erase any memories of our great history - our powerful kings and military heroes.

Also today, when we show that we haven't forgotten what they have done to us, they scream that it was so long ago, that we are oversensitive and basically stupid to remind those past things, that, actually, those things have never happened. At the same time, read what 'a German' blubbers (in atrocious English) about history.

That's the Germans for you.

(I know that in spite of the British healthy and sober view of who the Germans really are, there is also an opinion in Britain that they are honest, if at times crude and cruel, folks. Just true-blue Teutonic souls, basically good-hearted and jovial.

Not true.

For instance, they have never forgiven the English WWI and especially WWII. Do you know how they call you between themselves? - 'Island monkies.'

So, Brits, stick to your nukes and watch the Germans vigilantly. Especially now, as they again are in cahouts with the Russkies and hope that with the little help from their Muscovite friends they will kick out the Yanks and Brits from Germany and rule Europe, including Britain, like a little bauer farm.)

It has always been the German policy to attempt to cripple and destroy Poland and the Polish nation. The Germans seem to have this drive in their blood and genes.

And, in alliance with the half-Asiatic Russkies, they partly achieved their goal. During partitions, they kept Poland not industrialized and impoverished, and tried to cripple our education. That is why our countrymen of genius, such as Maria Sklodowska, better known as Marie Curie, and Bronislaw Malinowski, had to emigrate from Poland and study and develop scientifically elsewhere, including, alas, Germany.

So if my country is weak and impoverished today, it's, to a huge extent, the legacy of the German ageless attempts to destroy Poland and the Polish nation.

And now this German psychopath comes to this Polish forum and vulgarly makes fun of us, calls us 'stupid,' ridicules our poverty and ruins - the poverty and ruins which are partly his own psychopathic nation's work.

Hm, what can be added to this?

Only this, that we Poles will never trust the Germans and will do anything possible - make the pact with the devil if need be - to thwart their and the Russkies' attempts to enslave us.

The psycho tells us that we should kiss the Russkies' boots.

Well, there is abundant historical evidence that we have never done it. We do not like the Russkies as much as we don't like the Germans.

But wasn't it the German women who in 1945 and later kissed not only the Russkies' boots, but also something else (out of politeness I shall not mention what it was)? :)

How many German-Russian kids were born as a result of the rapes of German women by Russian soldiers?

Does the today great mutual love of the Germans and the Russkies have anything to do with their mass mixing in those hot days of 1945 in Hitler's dying Germania? :)

Well, as for nuking Germany, no, the Poles wouldn't want to do that, even if they could. But watch out, Germans a certain tiny country in the Middle East. I've got the hunch that it can nuke you one day out of the blue. - In spite of your kissing the boots of Begin and Sharon, in spite of all the crocodile tears you have shed for the Jews you murdered (at the same time defecating their monuments in Germany), in spite of the fact that you arm this little s...tty country with the top-notch weapons against the Arabs, and in spite of the fact that in cahouts with Zionazi crazies and other scum you try to put the blame for your crimes against the Jews on us, Poles.

I am 100 % Polish, with a little bit of Jewish blood from my father, not my mother's side (so I am not actually Jewish-Polish). But I can tell you, German psychopath, that when I think about your killings of my distant relatives, I would... :)

By the way, who of you - apart from me - have ever read any German poet? Have you read their pride- Goethe? If so, what do you think? Isn't he dreadful, grim like old excrement? And who of you have read their another pride - Schiller?! :) Isn't he even worse? And who of you have ever managed to read to the end Thomas Mann's novel, or even short story? Isn't it a dreadful, shamelessly plagiarized from Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky (he was of Polish extraction, by the way :)) lacklustre crappola? Their only really good poet is Heinrich Heine - a Jew. But who ever reads even him?

I think that our late writer Kapuscinski sells incomparably better around the world than Goehte or Shitller. :)
daffy 23 | 1,508  
2 Apr 2007 /  #2
why at this very moment chancellor merkel is trying to unify europe with the EU constitution, to bring the EU closer together so it may prosper under the old addage 'strength in numbers' 'united we stand, divided we fall'

curse her for being german and for trying to make a better europe.
OP Puzzler 9 | 1,089  
2 Apr 2007 /  #3
Oops, duffy, so again, I, Polish guy, am to blame, and not the German psycho coming to this forum and vulgarly insulting my people? Have I ever come to German forum and insulted his volk? So, according to duffy, I don't even have the right to reply in kind to him? Why should I curse Merkel for being German? I've got nothing against her - that is, as long as, under the facade of EU, she doesn't try to partition my country once again. And that's what many people in Poland are at present afraid of, observing how the Germans are getting close with the Russians. Perhaps as an Irish you don't understand, don't feel that? How would you behave if somebody came to an Irish forum and started ridicule Irish history - your Great Famine, etc., calling your stupid and inadequate, and what not, and putting the blame for your nation's calaminties on you, the victims? What if you got pissed and replied in kind, and if , eg. I started scolding you for your reply? :)
Matyjasz 2 | 1,544  
2 Apr 2007 /  #4
As for Germans being the best.... How long have we been neighbors? Over 1000 years? Yep, that's pretty much it, and yet, you still haven't managed to destroy us. Apparently you aren’t good enough. :)
OP Puzzler 9 | 1,089  
2 Apr 2007 /  #5
I don't have anything against the unification of Europe - the real unification, that is, and not the bureaucratic one. Poland would be safe in a truly unified Europe. I hope such a Europe will be real. But before it happens, well, perhaps some of us, e.g. Germans and Poles, should express their feelings freely, like this stupid Kraut and myself have just done?What's wrong about it, as long as we don't start killing one another? Let him come and insult me, and let see if he can take the lowdown I've got for him. Got it, duffy, you politially correct maudlin soul? :)
daffy 23 | 1,508  
2 Apr 2007 /  #6
I don't have anything against the unification of Europe - the real unification, that is, and not the bureaucratic one. Poland would be safe in a truly unified Europe. I hope such a Europe will be real.

ja tez

Germans and Poles, should express their feelings freely,

Agree

like this stupid Kraut and myself have just done?What's wrong about it

its moronic

ot it, duffy, you politially correct maudlin soul?

lets say, im more for consideration towards others. which is more than i can say for you.
dobranoc
Matyjasz 2 | 1,544  
2 Apr 2007 /  #7
What's wrong with it, as long as we don't start killing each other?

Because it's not a constructive discussion? Daffy is right… More facts, less insults.
OP Puzzler 9 | 1,089  
2 Apr 2007 /  #8
Bubba, yeah, you're my kind of guy, re the smug satisfaction at a torrent of profanities. But in order to appreciate it one has got to be - how shall I put it? - sufficiently open-minded? Smarter? More mature intellectually? Is our little daffy any of these? :)
daffy 23 | 1,508  
2 Apr 2007 /  #9
Let this Kraut come and insult me to his heart content, and let's see if he can take the lowdown I've got for him

the idea would be to let him come to you and you not sink to his level.
im not saying your styles are the exact same but you do resort to petty name calling, which IS moronic, childish and gets nowhere.
who the heck am i - i dont say i am better - i suggest how i do things and what has been regarded as the way to debate - not my standards but societys. so pick society not me for merely reminding you.

Because it's not a constructive discussion? Daffy is right… More facts, less insults.

One the ball! - that is all im suggesting puzzler. if you believe you are better, you must prove it surly for all to see - and you can, by being the better person and not resorting to the others attempts to drag everything throught the mud!
OP Puzzler 9 | 1,089  
2 Apr 2007 /  #10
Well, daffy, if you mean that the Kraut's postings were his attempts 'to drag everything through the mud,' and my reply to him is on a little better level, then why it is my posting that has been relegated to the Off-Topic Lounge, and his curses and vulgarities remain in the open? :)

Matyjasz tells me that with the vulgar rabid insulting kraut-psycho I should use 'more facts, less insults.' Hm, really? So he spits out insults, and I should nicely and politely, pretending that he hasn't pissed me off, reply to him with 'facts'? Wrong! - Don't you know, Matty, that there's no discussion with a psychopath? Only insults can sometimes affect him. And, according to some, the very best manner of 'talking' with a psycho is with a baseball bat. :)

Oops, daffy, can you quote those alleged 'moronic statements' of mine? So , really, what I scribbled is so much worse than what the kraut s...t did? :)
ArturSzastak 3 | 593  
2 Apr 2007 /  #11
Matyjasz tells me that with the vulgar rabid insulting kraut-psycho I should use 'more facts, less insults.' Hm, really? So he spits out insults, and I should nicely and politely, pretending that he hasn't pissed me off, reply to him with 'facts'? Wrong! - Don't you know, Matty, that there's no discussion with a psychopath? Only insults can sometimes affect him. And, according to some, the very best manner of 'talking' with a psycho is with a baseball bat.

Honestly Puzzler, just shrug it off. I've been insulted plenty of times, and I never really lost it and went all out trying to put the other guy down as much as possible. I understand that you're pissed, but be the better man. Ignore him and he'll slowly lose interest in the forum and leave. People respect someone who knows not to fight about things that were said. Don't be offended by words. By him saying these things, it only means he's either jealous or afraid of us :)
josecitomadera  
2 Apr 2007 /  #12
From the likes of these exchanges, it seems European Unity is far off. Yet there are more good Europeans who not only want to unite Europe but the world. Imagine all the colors and ethnic groups living as one. John Lennon wrote one beautiful song, Imagine.
Patrycja19 63 | 2,699  
3 Apr 2007 /  #13
why at this very moment chancellor merkel is trying to unify europe with the EU constitution, to bring the EU closer together so it may prosper under the old addage 'strength in numbers' 'united we stand, divided we fall'

curse her for being german and for trying to make a better europe.

daffy, as gallant as it sounds, even today I had a new light.

imagine people like this, going around and actually saying things like this in public?

I mean do they say things like that over there??? do they even have any
remorse for all the bloodshed?

some things which we have no control over, like a random shooting , to which if
you could have stopped it you would have, we are not talking random acts here.

this was all planned very carefully by a mad man who took life from souls he
surrounded and stacked the shells of these souls in piles on top of each other
like they were meaningless manaquins.

yes this is in the past, and happened a long time ago, but one lady trying to unite
countries that have fought throughout history didnt think carefully about it did she?

you take germans and polish and every other nationality and put them on neutral
ground, they will do what it takes to survive and get along because they have to
but on their own ancestral lands, things are sacred and their home is their castle
which all this going on is like a mass invasion, look at what is going on now?

it works in the united states because why? because we are a land of immigrants
who decided to unite because its a new land, not yours not mine but ours.

people still say things here, but its nothing like europe, which has a long way to
go, until everyone wants it bad enough, its going to be a rough ride.

minus daffy I have seem emm all show some anger in here and say things under
the duress of heated discussions.

we all do it, and I am sure no one expected what i said today, I dont care at this
point . these guys hit a nerve and im usually a very passive person, but they were
using death as a tool, sorry, but there is a line I draw, and when it comes to harm
and badgering of a great nation of people whom didnt deserve all the tradgedy

and kept on saying it, even face to face, I would put someone in their place because
this was way overboard. People suffer enough and this type of behavior I have no
patience for.

Taunting like grade children, and then thinking they are adults. even children dont
act like this till they see a psychotic adult do it then they copy it, but they get along
with other children and dont even care what color, how you speak, they learn from
their peirs and parents.

I might have said some things that i wouldnt normally say until sparked into instant
anger ( which was the case) , I dont regret that i said them.

they were non remorseful. had they approached the forum with dignity and peaceful
debate and not calling people Pollacks, well, things would have been different.

theres always a cause and Effect!

Matyjasz tells me that with the vulgar rabid insulting kraut-psycho I should use 'more facts, less insults.' Hm, really? So he spits out insults, and I should nicely and politely, pretending that he hasn't pissed me off, reply to him with 'facts'? Wrong! - Don't you know, Matty, that there's no discussion with a psychopath? Only insults can sometimes affect him. And, according to some, the very best manner of 'talking' with a psycho is with a baseball bat.

I agree with this, ya cant walk away from everything. in real life what if this guy
was in your face, sorry boys, but I wear my armor from time to time.

I said stuff to Grzegorz about not spitting on peaceful tourists.

I stick to that, this wasnt peaceful guys!

and I am sure given the oppertunity, they would have done it in public.
learn to read people , these guys wanted to pick a fight, I dont doubt
they do it daily just for fun. and its only going to escalate till someone actually gets
hurt because people walk away. soon as you turn your back " ambush"

hopefully someone knocks them into next week soon so they realize how vulgar
they sound.
LoneStranger 3 | 382  
3 Apr 2007 /  #14
josecitomadera

Dont let all the trouble of the world harras you my friend. Live you life the way you want to. Just be careful on what you ask for :).

Sayonara.
maxxx_payne_g  
3 Apr 2007 /  #15
I can understand Polish being angry at Germans, German attitude towards Polish reminds me of the Swedish attitude towards Finnish.
witek 1 | 587  
3 Apr 2007 /  #16
Germans raus!!!!!!!:) Find your own forum

Hey Germans we took your cities like Szczecin, Wroclaw and Katowice and we would also take your women however they are too ugly :)
Huegel_gast  
3 Apr 2007 /  #17
thought you were one of the turn the other cheek mob P?
Patrycja19 63 | 2,699  
3 Apr 2007 /  #18
Huegel, usually I do, but I also have a very strong resentment towards this type
of behavior which shows no remorse for what happened, like it was a joke or something and that people are not worth anything.

would they say that to an older Polish woman who maybe lost her whole family
and survived these camps? I might have went overboard with my emotions, no
i take that back, I didnt, because I have morals.

Ive come across situations before ( casper knows what I am talking about) and
even questioned my own actions. but I guess it depends on what is being said
and how its being said as to how I react. I try to do the right thing, but I cant
say I am not plagued with imperfections because I am who I am and I cant help
some of my actions when it comes to this type of subject.
Huegel_gast  
3 Apr 2007 /  #19
Yeah but Germans out sounds a bit like the Poles out of the UK, you've got your own F'ing country type thread we all hate here at PF. You'd be the first to object to that kind of thing and rightly so. We have to remember that all Germans are not this one poster.

So how about we say, Biggots regardless of nationality out of PF. :)
szarlotka 8 | 2,208  
3 Apr 2007 /  #20
So how about we say, Biggots regardless of nationality out of PF. :)

Nice proposal...... Bye all (only joking):)
Huegel_gast  
3 Apr 2007 /  #21
:)

Cue tubleweed and admin wondering why there has been no activity since April 3rd.

Round up the cyber search posse there boys...
Patrycja19 63 | 2,699  
3 Apr 2007 /  #22
Yeah but Germans out sounds a bit like the Poles out of the UK, you've got your own F'ing country type thread we all hate here at PF. You'd be the first to object to that kind of thing and rightly so. We have to remember that all Germans are not this one poster.
So how about we say, Biggots regardless of nationality out of PF. :)

I can agree with that, I never said all were bad, you remember my husband is also
irish and german his grandmother all german and a very lovely lady who dispises
people like these idiots who came in here yesterday and had their fun.

when we refer to them, it was not a generalization, they had their names as
A German. and I know as well as others that witek was speaking directly about
those who came in yesterday and not the whole nation of Germans. the whole
nation of germans was not on this forum yesterday .

it gets me though why they come here to antagonize . WHat satisfaction does that
bring them , i really am curious to know what it does for them in terms of how they
feel afterwards. I would love to hear this intelligent answer really.
Huegel_gast  
3 Apr 2007 /  #23
If they know you really dislike being calling P and they know that if they call you P, you're going to spend time and effort posting a message back to them (content is irrelevant, function over form in this case...they think. "I'm going to call her P."

They do it not to annoy, well ok, partially, but also becuase they're really lonely and if someone is spending all that time and effort posting just to them, they suddenly feel special and get that lovely warm glow inside. :)
Patrycja19 63 | 2,699  
3 Apr 2007 /  #24
Just to add to this, I have yet to see a Russian come in here and antagonize
anyone about what happened, so far I have see nothing bad in terms of the
russians.

and Ive never see a thread which had to be closed because of it. maybe there
was long before i joined though, who knows.
anielka 2 | 84  
3 Apr 2007 /  #25
It would have been much more effective to break him with well thought out responses backed by facts and watch him squirm. Now we won't get that chance so we need to learn for the next time.

Thank God our Polish boys remember the Hymn and continue to defend Polska, today on the Internet as did our people, different time, same ideals.
Patrycja19 63 | 2,699  
3 Apr 2007 /  #26
If they know you really dislike being calling P and they know that if they call you P, you're going to spend time and effort posting a message back to them (content is irrelevant, function over form in this case...they think. "I'm going to call her P."

They do it not to annoy, well ok, partially, but also becuase they're really lonely and if someone is spending all that time and effort posting just to them, they suddenly feel special and get that lovely warm glow inside. :)

Huegel,

lol, your point taken, but I just came online so all my attention wasnt on them
for very long because the thread was closed pretty quick.
szarlotka 8 | 2,208  
3 Apr 2007 /  #27
It would have been much more effective to break him with well thought out responses backed by facts and watch him squirm.

IMHO, this tends not to work very quickly with people of his ilk. The quickest way to rid us of their inflammatory commnets would be to just ignore every comment until they get bored and go away. Rising to the bait just prolongs the problem.
Patrycja19 63 | 2,699  
3 Apr 2007 /  #28
It would have been much more effective to break him with well thought out responses backed by facts and watch him squirm. Now we won't get that chance so we need to learn for the next time.

Well I dont think they expected my responses either, which I dont regret, they
deserved it and then some.

I will try to keep out of the mix and not jump the gun, even though my inner
instincts tell me otherwise at times. like i said, usually I am more the calmer one
so I suppose they hit the right nerve .

:(
dannyboy 18 | 248  
3 Apr 2007 /  #29
DON'T FEED THE TROLLS
Patrycja19 63 | 2,699  
3 Apr 2007 /  #30
how bout they dont let them in! first sign, zap emm.

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