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Should we change the rules to let Poles join the British Army?


isthatu  3 | 1164  
19 Mar 2008 /  #31
Hi Carol,been busy with "real life" ;) so to speak :)
Personally,I dont think any rules should be changed,what I do feel though is that,someone who wants to make a long term commitment to a new country should have the ability/oppertunity,if they so wish,to serve that new country in anyway they feel comfortable with,be that Armed forces,Police or any such service. Of course,if they dont speak the lingo thats another issue. I know there is a huge proportion of Hispanics in todays US.Army,but I rather imagine they speak english as well as Spannish.
Zgubiony  15 | 1274  
19 Mar 2008 /  #32
Hispanics in todays US.Army,but I rather imagine they speak english as well as Spannish.

This is very true. When I served, there were a lot of Latino and Philippino enlisted and they all spoke english. Some had a heavy accent, but as long as they understood the language it was ok. It was difficult at times to understand each other, but we got used to it.
Lady in red  
19 Mar 2008 /  #33
Awww am so glad to see that you two are friends now :) Nice innit. Hello to you both :)
OP celinski  31 | 1258  
19 Mar 2008 /  #34
Hi Lady in Red. I always look forward to hearing what isthatu has to contribute, even though he can be "grumpy" sometimes. He makes some excellant points. LOL Carol
isthatu  3 | 1164  
19 Mar 2008 /  #35
Hey,Im friends with everybody,just suffer from net tyson syndrome now n again lol
Z',re the phillipinos......did they all get confused with gender pronouns like they do over here?Typical exchange; " Your Grandfather is doing very well,she is very happy and she is a lovely man....." (sweet people,funny way with words lol)
Zgubiony  15 | 1274  
19 Mar 2008 /  #36
It was a little bit of that and when they yell ( many were high ranking) it's almost funny. They are very nice people and never had an issue....except for maybe the food they tried to make me eat in the Phillipines.
isthatu  3 | 1164  
19 Mar 2008 /  #37
and lets not even mention the reenacted crucifixtions !!! :)
Zgubiony  15 | 1274  
19 Mar 2008 /  #38
Yooooo! Right? They are the definition of extreme. I've never seen anything like this and lucky enough not in person. They are hard core when it comes to the crucifying. I saw a documentary on this not too long ago.
isthatu  3 | 1164  
19 Mar 2008 /  #39
Yep,I thought it was all a bit of ,well,,lets laugh at the natives hype,untill I worked with some guys who actually take part in it ! Hardcore....
peterweg  37 | 2305  
19 Mar 2008 /  #40
ut even from over here in the United States, I see little sense in the proposal. Poland and the United Kingdom are traditional allies, yes, but so are the U.S. and Canada, and I don't think such a plan should be applied there either. Every nation has their own army. These young men should be satisfied by serving in the Polish Army.

The US gives citizenship for foreigners willing to join the US army. That's not people living in the US, its anybody, worldwide can become a US mercenary just by applying.
Harry  
19 Mar 2008 /  #41
We have opened our doors by admitting foreign nationals into our domestic police force, but the army is a different kettle of fish entirely.

You mean that it is different because the army has long been open to non-British citizens? I know a man who is a British army officer and had his application for British citizenship rejected because he had spent too many days outside of the UK in the qualifying period. Why had he been outside the UK? Because he was serving in Kosovo and Iraq.

Altho' any Pole who joined the British army might well find he had legal problems when/if he returned to Poland.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
19 Mar 2008 /  #42
It depends on what level u c it. Poles, as taxpayers in the UK, and now part of the fabric of Britain's society, have a right to defend the country and their newly-found homes against attacks from abroad and to serve as representatives for Britain against terrorists who threaten to undermine global stability and whose ideology we deplore.

On a different level, it would give Poles a chance to use the experience picked up from their WKU here in Poland and give them additional employment opportunities. The army is a diverse institution these days, they could do many things.
isthatu  3 | 1164  
19 Mar 2008 /  #43
yes, but so are the U.S. and Canada, and I don't think such a plan should be applied there either.

Im guessing your a bit weak on your military history then JP? Coz you sure aint heard of the FSSF then have you? Lets make it a bit easier. The Devils Brigade ( Clff Robertson,Wiliam Holden 196something...) or the 1st Special Sevice brigade/force,were a joint US / Canadian force set up in 1942 for a proposed invasion of Norway. This never happened but the force did go on to play crucial roles in the Aelutions then more famously in the Italian campaigns and southern france. The FSSF was considered by most as one of the finest fighting forces of ww2 and led the way to the later green berets and LRRP style units.
pravda  - | 1  
14 Sep 2008 /  #44
510 pilots died during the battle of britain, 30 of whom were polish!!!!!!!!!!!!!
noimmigration  
14 Sep 2008 /  #45
So ?
half a million brits died in the second world war, a war britain entered into because poland was invaded.

every war I have reads that involves poland, results in polish soldiers throwing down their weapons and surrendering.

do we want an army of eastern european surrenderers ?
shopgirl  6 | 928  
14 Sep 2008 /  #46
every war I have reads that involves poland, results in polish soldiers throwing down their weapons and surrendering.

I think you would benefit from more reading and less posting :)
McCoy  27 | 1268  
14 Sep 2008 /  #47
every war I have reads that involves poland, results in polish soldiers throwing down their weapons and surrendering.

said guy from independent republic of scotland who thinks that being true scottish means to speak english with scottish accent. :)
Bartolome  2 | 1083  
14 Sep 2008 /  #48
said guy from independent republic of scotland. :)

He's full of sh!te, to put it in the Glaswegian way.
whyikit  6 | 102  
14 Sep 2008 /  #49
who thinks that being true scottish means to speak english with scottish accent

LOL those weedgies give Scotland a bad name at times!!
wildrover  98 | 4430  
15 Sep 2008 /  #50
Can i just mention , that without the help of Polish pilots during the battle of Britain , England would have been really up against it , and Polish units in the British army fought bravley in many battles , Monte casino to name just one....
OP celinski  31 | 1258  
16 Sep 2008 /  #51
every war I have reads that involves poland, results in polish soldiers throwing down their weapons and surrendering.

You are speaking of "First to Fight", "Fought on all Fronts", "Fought from start to Finish", Poland. Keep reading.
time means  5 | 1309  
16 Sep 2008 /  #52
celinski do not bite.i know its hard when such crap is spouted but he feeds on it.
Dazza  1 | 33  
16 Sep 2008 /  #53
Being an Ex Officer in HM forces I clearly state NO
Being part of the British Forces means serving Queen and country....I don't quite see how being Polish people could follow such orders when its not from their own nation.

Also when you are in a battle situation when you require the confidence in your colleagues.....would you really have it (100%)from someone who comes from Poland. If you do, then fine let them join. I unfortunately see a % of Poland as a very corrupt society. I have 1st hand experiences of this both in the UK and Poland.

I think if Polish you should fight for and with your own country. Then you are following your own countries decisions and not anothers. However good the Polish troops in Iraq/Afghanistan are.
Franek  8 | 271  
16 Sep 2008 /  #54
Dazza
Today, 07:31 Report #53

Being an Ex Officer in HM forces I clearly state NO

Hmmm! I wonder why the Brits did not have this attitude in WW2?
Kilkline  1 | 682  
16 Sep 2008 /  #55
I thought Poles fought in Polish units under Polish leadership during ww2. Same as the French etc.
Dazza  1 | 33  
16 Sep 2008 /  #56
If you were there in ww2 then you can tell me your story if not...then realise everyone every country has their own version of who and how the war was won.....If you have a few days I'll talk you through the Royal Corps of Signals role...you can talk me through the Polish role :)
Franek  8 | 271  
16 Sep 2008 /  #57
I thought Poles fought in Polish units under Polish leadership during ww2.

Look at the uniforms..They fought under Polish leadership but as elements of the British Army..
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
16 Sep 2008 /  #58
I think that UK shouldn't change rules. It is not WWII. Poland is member of NATO and EU. Poles are coming back from UK.
Bratwurst Boy  9 | 11629  
16 Sep 2008 /  #59
No. 318 "City of Gdańsk" Polish Fighter-Reconnaissance Squadron (Gdański)

Crap! Danzig was a fully german town at that point, with nearly 98 percent Germans! Why not a squadron "Munich" or a squadron "Berlin"???A*ssholes!

On every one shot down Polish plane, Poles shot down six German planes (6:1),

I really wonder where are the famous polish fighter aces???
They must have chucked up quite a number compared to the clumsy Germans!

Where are they???

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_air_aces
OP celinski  31 | 1258  
16 Sep 2008 /  #60
Danzig was a fully german town at that point! A*ssholes!

lol, sorry I couldn't help but laugh. :)

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