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Received an email from a young Polish woman - Is she too good to be true?


Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535  
22 Sep 2009 /  #31
I believe and have seen long distant relationships over the internet work. But the way he took is the way really 'silly' (to put is more respectfully) people do. He is on a scam. Clearly.
OP Eric Crapton 1 | 19  
22 Sep 2009 /  #32
Whats the basis of this belief? Dont tell me its what your heart says :P :)

No, I am too long in the tooth to let my heart rule my head.

Whats did you check?

I did a whos check. If you've not come across it it's a way of checking the path of emails. i.e. the origin and paths it took to reach me.

How do you know?

That I'm afraid is what she told me and there is no way of checking.

So going by your previous posts this put her in her late twenties at the most. (?)

She say's she is 26. I'm fairly certain you are correct in your assumption but I am still interested in finding out and getting to the bottom of it, if you pardon the expression.
szkotja2007 27 | 1,498  
22 Sep 2009 /  #33
I have a little saying: 'I may be old and at times foolish but I’m not both old and foolish at the same time!

....and there is no fool like an old fool ( where women are concerned - no offence intended - I'm sure you agree ).

First thing I would do would be to run a detailed scan of your PC, swipe your HD, reload, then change all the passwords they have taken from your PC.

she is emailing from an internet cafe.

It'll be a proxy server which will be harder for Mastercard, Visa etc to trace.


  • Elena
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535  
22 Sep 2009 /  #34
I did a whos check

I know that. And I know a wide array of softwares what can goof it.

Look... GOOD LUCK. But if you get hit, or face a once-in-a-life experience with a well organised mafia or gang... then dont blame Poland for it. Its your decision.
MareGaea 29 | 2,752  
22 Sep 2009 /  #35
niejestemcapita

Go a bit easy on Eric, will ya?

Eric Crapton

Don't worry :) Niejestemcapita is just a bit opiniated, but that makes her cute in a way :))

M-G (but I still think you should find somebody at least close to your own age - in the end it will prove more valuable and deeper for yourself. Just think of this: what you want to discuss with a young brat of 23? She doesn't have a clue yet and no experience of life whatsoever. But it's up to you)
OP Eric Crapton 1 | 19  
22 Sep 2009 /  #36
....and there is no fool like an old fool

Yes I have heard that saying and if I had a way of proving I am not 'that old fool,' I would. And no offence taken :-)

Thanks for your advice but I am well protected in all departments. I built this computer from the ground up, installed all the software and use three different external hard drives for downloads/games etc. etc. I also do a backup every day and everything that works in the background for protection is also updated every day, most of it automatically.
szkotja2007 27 | 1,498  
22 Sep 2009 /  #37
Thanks for your advice but

Sounds like you have your eyes wide open so.......go for it....get pics !!!!!!
wildrover 98 | 4,451  
22 Sep 2009 /  #38
Elena

Elena...that rings a bell.......i do believe thats the girl i sent my entire life savings to after she promised me a share in a bean factory.....only had one tin so far tho......
MareGaea 29 | 2,752  
22 Sep 2009 /  #39
Eric Crapton

You would be surprised how much your AV would pass through and how much false positives you get. Most AV's are simply not good enough. At least, nearly none of the commercial ones are. Sad, but true.

M-G (can't tell you which one is though as this would look weird too)
szkotja2007 27 | 1,498  
22 Sep 2009 /  #40
i do believe thats the girl i sent my entire life savings to

Was she blonde ?

Edit: Damn ! Some of these are hot !
wildrover 98 | 4,451  
22 Sep 2009 /  #42
Was she blonde ?

yussss of course....no that wasn,t her...she had a moustache....
OP Eric Crapton 1 | 19  
22 Sep 2009 /  #43
get pics !!!!!!

Already got the pics but I still ain't got the T-shirt!

i sent my entire life savings to after she promised me a share in a bean factory.....

I haven't got a bean as I've already stated so I have nothing to lose but my dignity and I lost that way back when.

You would be surprised how much your AV would pass through and how much false positives you get.

I wouldn't dream of telling you which AV I use but what I can tell you is it's not commercially available and if it was it would be way out of the range of most peoples pockets. But I got it free ;-)
MareGaea 29 | 2,752  
22 Sep 2009 /  #44
Already got the pics but I still ain't got the T-shirt!

You know pictures are the easiest thing to fake, do you?

But I got it free ;-)

Duh, via Usenet and Torrent you can get everything for free, eh? :) Panda used to be very good, but I haven't heard from it in a while now, don't know if it still exists. But basically all AV's are the same: very simply put it makes a bunch of critical files read-only and acts like a very sophisticated search engine. But this is a very, very simplified image of an AV.

M-G (before you guys start flaming me on this)

Please, don't drag the thread off topic.
OP Eric Crapton 1 | 19  
22 Sep 2009 /  #45
You know pictures are the easiest thing to fake, do you?

Yes, of course they are. I'm a keen photographer and Photoshop is always there to help. Even before digital photography photo's could 'lie.'

Duh, via Usenet and Torrent you can get everything for free, eh? :)

My AV was not off the internet. It was supplied to me by a friend, which is really all I can say.

Anyway, it seems as though thing's are slowing down on this subject now so I will leave it there for now. But let me take this opportunity to thank everyone for their input and sound advice. It has not only been informative but entertaining as well. What more could anyone ask for? You seem to be a really nice bunch of guy's and girl's.

I have just finished reading through the topic and and will now carry some of it through to research some more.

Hugs and kisses

Don't read too much into it; it's just polite expression.

Just posted this and noticed the bit in red in the previous post. Who put that there?
shewolf 5 | 1,077  
22 Sep 2009 /  #46
she is emailing from an internet cafe.

The internet cafe is a major red flag. She's probably a man. That's where they do these types of scams. In the end they always ask for money.

Just posted this and noticed the bit in red in the previous post. Who put that there?

Spooky, eh?
OP Eric Crapton 1 | 19  
22 Sep 2009 /  #47
She can ask all she want's but whoever it is they won't get it. Or the money! :-)

Spooky, eh?

very :-)
MareGaea 29 | 2,752  
22 Sep 2009 /  #48
Eric Crapton

That's the moderator speaking to me, Eric. I have just spent two days on the angry bench for going off-topic too much.

She can ask all she want's but whoever it is they won't get it. Or the money! :-)

In fact this is just a variation of the wellknown 419-scams or Nigerian scams; you know, where somebody finds 30.000.000 Dollars in grandfather's shed in a poor African country and this has to go out of the country and if you would be so kind to let them use your bank a/c, you will get 10% of this sum. Of course, the first thing that happens is that your a/c gets emptied out if you give the details. Or a charge needs to be paid for a "lawyer" in order to process some "formalities". And it's that money they are usually after, because they know that after wide coverage nobody will be that eager to give their bank details that quick (however, you would be surprised how many ppl still fall for it). Never understood though how they can do that with just your account number, but they apparently can. Best thing is to ignore it or, if you want to have some fun with it, lead those scammers on, of course without giving them any money. Because, after all, think about it: somebody you don't know, gets your email and offers you millions of Dollars. It never happens, does it? ;)

Have a look what I did with one of those many scammers that approach me all the time. Mind you, these guys get their addresses from guestbooks and fora, so be wary to leave your real email address behind on these kinda things. Here is the link:

angelfire.com/mn3/plaatjes2/The_Hamza_Bello_Saga.html

Hope you enjoy it, maybe you should do the same with this scammer :)

M-G (sometimes has his bright moments)
wildrover 98 | 4,451  
22 Sep 2009 /  #49
Oh....Shewolf......swoooooooooooonnnnnnn
SzwedwPolsce 11 | 1,595  
22 Sep 2009 /  #50
Sorry to say, but this sounds much like scam. A huge trend obviously.
plk123 8 | 4,148  
22 Sep 2009 /  #51
work it, eric. work it. :D
OP Eric Crapton 1 | 19  
22 Sep 2009 /  #52
That's the moderator speaking to me, Eric. I have just spent two days on the angry bench for going off-topic too much.

Ok, I understand :-)

I have just gone all the way through the Hamza Bello Saga. Wow, you must have lots of time on your hands? The first Nigerian scam that came my way, I wasted far too much time on. Nowdays I just attach the letter to an email and send it to a contact of mine in the police force over here. Perhaps that's what I should do with this emailer but I'm afraid curiosity has still not 'killed the cat.'

plk123 Work it, eric, work it :D
Not quite sure what you mean by this?
MareGaea 29 | 2,752  
22 Sep 2009 /  #53
Eric Crapton

I had a few holidays back then :)

And I type pretty quick as well ;)

And besides, it was a one off, normally I don't react to those guys, but like said, I had some time on my hands and I thought I had a little prank with this one. Nowadays, I just delete them straightaway. But I guess you have to be Dutch to fully understand the jokes that I put in there. I had this placed on 419eater.com, look in the letters-archive, mine is there too, I think the second from the bottom or the third.

But it was intended as a little handle for you to deal with scammers like Elena cs.

wildrover

Behave yourself!

M-G (food!)
plk123 8 | 4,148  
22 Sep 2009 /  #54
Not quite sure what you mean by this?

have fun with it.
OP Eric Crapton 1 | 19  
22 Sep 2009 /  #55
Ok, thanks. I will.

I guess you have to be Dutch to fully understand the jokes that I put in there

I think I did get it but the scammer obviously didn't (But then we had the benefit of the explanations and added notes)

Ok, that's all for today. I am now going to answer Elena's latest email. I will of course keep you all informed of the progress. I did think of pasting Elena's emails but I think at this stage it would not feel right. And before someone remarks negatively to my last sentence please don't bother as it will be water off a ducks *rse (No offence meant)

If any of the people who were kind enough to reply to my thread are interested? This is an up-date.

Since sending 'Elena' an email seven days ago, there has been no reply! I have copied and pasted the text in that email:

...Elena,

I do not have much time as I am just about to go out so I will make this a short reply. You have already told me some of the things in your previous emails, which means you are repeating yourself!

I would like you to answer the questions I asked you in my emails! When you do (Which will never happen) I will reply to your proposed scam!

Regards

Nick

P.S. I have forwarded the relative information to the police ;-)
szkotja2007 27 | 1,498  
2 Oct 2009 /  #56
Regarding the title of the thread, it would appear to underline the old saying

" If something sounds too good to be true - it probably is "
lovewarsaw - | 2  
3 Oct 2009 /  #57
It is easy to understand why Brits get suckered in lovewarsaw.co.uk/10-most-sexiest-polish-women.html
beckski 12 | 1,617  
3 Oct 2009 /  #58
It is easy to understand why Brits get suckered in

I noticed Joanna Krupa got a double ranking there.
blueboy 2 | 34  
3 Oct 2009 /  #59
Go Joanna! With a face like that, she deserves a triple ranking!
OP Eric Crapton 1 | 19  
12 Oct 2009 /  #60
Well, I didn't think I'd be posting on this thread again but here I am! Blow me down with a feather, she or whoever they are sent me another email today! I had no intention of copying and pasting any of the emails sent me by Elena but I just have to place this before you to see what you think?

Hello dear Nick!!!!

Your letter as a beam of the sun warms my heart and lifts my mood...

Your gentle and sincere Elena!!!

(Whoever it is must either be thick or desperate or something else!)

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