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Whose Life is it? Polish girlfriend under family "house arrest"


OP Ireland32  2 | 172  
17 Mar 2009 /  #121
most of the texts are in broken english. This is one he sent me in Polish....not sure what it means...maybe some of you can translate

Sam Sie Pierdol Kutasie I Tak Cie Dorwie Juz Niedlugo Obiecuie Ci To Huiu Zlamany !!
McCoy  27 | 1268  
17 Mar 2009 /  #122
most of the texts are in broken english. This is one he sent me in Polish

his polish is as good as his english.
Randal  1 | 577  
17 Mar 2009 /  #123
Let's see if I can fix this so it is permissible...

Vincent:
Not sure about the ROI but in the UK it is illegal to record someones telephone conversation without their permission,so probably would not stand in a court of law.

He could correct this by merely informing the jerk he is being recorded.
And even if it could not be introduced in court, a recording can still serve to help the police and prosecutors know what they’re really dealing with.

At any rate, defiantly save all texts and copies of the phone bill.

McCoy:
F*** you p****, i'll get you soon, i promise you, you broken d***

Is this really what the text says? That's a crime committed right there. I'd call the cops now.
Cardno85  31 | 971  
17 Mar 2009 /  #124
I remember reading that you can record someone in order to secure an arrest or to claim intent. However without their permission it cannot be used as evidence in court. However if you put it on speaker phone as well as record it then have a friend there with you then the recording can be used to verify your friend's (as a witness) statement and add more of a punch to that.

Think outside the box law boys. For everything there is a loophole.
Randal  1 | 577  
17 Mar 2009 /  #125
However if you put it on speaker phone as well as record it then have a friend there with you then the recording can be used to verify your friend's (as a witness) statement

Right. Nothing says you can't share it with a third party witness.
Cardno85  31 | 971  
17 Mar 2009 /  #126
Exactly, then you can also use the recording in court, not as evidence but to verify the witness statement is true.

All this knowledge from someone who's never been arrested...i must have been a detective or a severe criminal in a previous life.
Randal  1 | 577  
17 Mar 2009 /  #127
Nah, one needn't be an expert. You just pick up on stuff like that by keeping up on the news. Things become common knowledge after a while.
Cardno85  31 | 971  
17 Mar 2009 /  #128
See if this girl is being totally honest with Irish chap, I would love to see him get that bawbag of an ex of hers up in court. See how big a man he is then.
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
17 Mar 2009 /  #129
F*** you p****, i'll get you soon, i promise you, you broken d***

lol, he's not very good in the old insults and intimidation department is he :) I also noticed that your ex popped out to get her hair done, not exactly being held against her will is she? You know what Im expecting in a few more weeks time? That she needs money to escape! Makes sense that the ex is still involved, making threatening phone calls etc., it is possible that they are looking to take the piss even further out of you.
Cardno85  31 | 971  
17 Mar 2009 /  #130
I also noticed that your ex popped out to get her hair done

I missed that bit, am I going blind??
Randal  1 | 577  
17 Mar 2009 /  #131
You know what Im expecting in a few more weeks time? That she needs money to escape! Makes sense that the ex is still involved, making threatening phone calls etc., it is possible that they are looking to take the piss even further out of you.

Ah, like an Irish fiddle, you thinks...
Harry  
18 Mar 2009 /  #132
I also noticed that your ex popped out to get her hair done, not exactly being held against her will is she?

No she isn't: she's being told by the majority of her social group (i.e. her family) that she mustn't leave the village and go back to Ireland. While the average British girl would most probably say "Mum, Dad, get fucked. It's my life.", Polish girls aren't like that.
Sokrates  8 | 3335  
18 Mar 2009 /  #133
Dude you're an idiot, an anti-polish idiot but here you do much more harm by giving a guy concerned wrong advice.

Girls from little towns will run the fuck away from them unless they have some huge attachment, parents are NOT such attachment, if she's staying there that means there's a man with money or some attractive prospects, or a toxic relationship.

As for "Polish girls" you would not know how they are even if i wrote you a bloody map :)
Harry  
18 Mar 2009 /  #134
Girls from little towns will run the fuck away from them unless they have some huge attachment, parents are NOT such attachment, if she's staying there that means there's a man with money or some attractive prospects, or a toxic relationship.

It certainly is refreshing to see you not telling lies. Of course what you say is completely wrong but this time it is said due to ignorance and normally you tell very deliberate lies (usually anti-semitic ones).

Have you ever lived in a small Polish town? I have. I spent six months living in a town of 14,000 people (which is the largest settlement for 50km in any direction). This was more than a decade ago and the vast majority of the teenagers I taught then are either now back in that town or have never left it. Don’t believe me? Check for yourself: just go to nasza-klasa and pick any small town, click on a high school class from a decade and a half ago and see where those students now live.

As for "Polish girls" you would not know how they are even if i wrote you a bloody map :)

Personally I prefer a map which has been drawn over one which has been written but I supoose that you are too stupid to use a map so it is perfectly understandable that you don't know how one is made. As for Polish girls, I've had my fair share. Actually, I've had your share too: that's why you're left with only the disease-ridden Moldovan prostitutes you spunk your parents' money on.
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
18 Mar 2009 /  #135
While the average British girl would most probably say "Mum, Dad, get fucked. It's my life.", Polish girls aren't like that.

The average British girl wouldn't have to tell their parents to get fucked as their parents would back them if they were in an abusive relationship.

For me it doesn't add up this girl isn't some teenager.
Harry  
18 Mar 2009 /  #136
The average British girl wouldn't have to tell their parents to get fucked as their parents would back them if they were in an abusive relationship.

Yes but what is seen as an abusive relationship in Britain might well be seen as completely normal in small town Poland. The idea that women are completely equal to men hasn't really caught on there. A fact which is hardly surprising when you consider that 98% of the people there belong to a religion which views women as second-class citizens.

For me it doesn't add up this girl isn't some teenager.

No: she is a small-town Poland girl and is behaving like one.
SeanBM  34 | 5781  
18 Mar 2009 /  #137
I know this is going to sound very laddish of me but I mean it from a more practical point of view.
Could you take this guy, if it came to it?.

Ireland32,
It is a strange situation,
I don't have any advise but I hope it works out for all of you.
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
18 Mar 2009 /  #138
fact which is hardly surprising when you consider that 98% of the people there belong to a religion which views women as second-class citizens.

Tut tut Harry, I was brought up in a strict catholic home, at no time was I made to feel inferior to my brothers, I was given all the opportunities they were (and probably more being the only girl).

It's 2009 not 1999 - she left home, stayed in a country after her ex left and now she returned...Ireland is best off just walking away....
Harry  
18 Mar 2009 /  #139
I was brought up in a strict catholic home, at no time was I made to feel inferior to my brothers, I was given all the opportunities they were (and probably more being the only girl).

I take it all of them were not allowed to become priests...
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
18 Mar 2009 /  #140
I dont quite understand what you mean by that, had they wanted to they could have, same as had I wanted to become a nun I could have.
Harry  
18 Mar 2009 /  #141
I mean that you were not given the same opportunities as them because you could not become a priest. A nun is not the female version of a priest, she is the female version of a monk. The Catholic church views women as unsuitable to lead anybody (apart from other women of course).
Piorun  - | 655  
18 Mar 2009 /  #142
The Catholic church views women as unsuitable to lead anybody (apart from other women of course).

As opposed to what together but separately as in Jewish mechitzah. Judaism ascribes the central role of prayer to men, whereas women are left out to say the least. The premise for that perception is that men play the leading part in the synagogue. So look at yourself before you dare to criticize others for the same shortfalls.
Harry  
18 Mar 2009 /  #143
So look at yourself before you dare to criticize others for the same shortfalls.

Why would I want to look at the customs of the Jews when considering myself?
Randal  1 | 577  
18 Mar 2009 /  #144
It certainly is refreshing to see you not telling lies. Of course what you say is completely wrong but this time it is said due to ignorance and normally you tell very deliberate lies (usually anti-semitic ones).

Lol... I don't often agree with Harry but here he certainly has Sokrates pegged!
ragtime27  1 | 146  
18 Mar 2009 /  #145
ShelleyS:
I dont quite understand what you mean by that, had they wanted to they could have, same as had I wanted to become a nun I could have.

I mean that you were not given the same opportunities as them because you could not become a priest. A nun is not the female version of a priest, she is the female version of a monk. The Catholic church views women as unsuitable to lead anybody (apart from other women of course).

Semitic religions share same principal when it comes to a women leading prayers.

I would love to hear Shelleys on this subject....she's gone quiet :)
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
18 Mar 2009 /  #146
I would love to hear Shelleys on this subject....she's gone quiet :)

Because Ive been busy you twat!

I'm not sure how on earth religion was brought into this.

But I'll counter Harry with:

Nuns have done great things, look at Mother Teresa, Nuns are more than just Monks, Nuns have been missionaries for centuries! So Harry you are quite wrong about the role that Nuns play in the Roman Catholic Church. Im not going to say anything about Jewish women because there isn't a lot to say about the role they play in Judaism.
Randal  1 | 577  
18 Mar 2009 /  #147
Im not going to say anything about Jewish women because there isn't a lot to say about the role they play in Judaism.

There are female rabbis.
Sokrates  8 | 3335  
18 Mar 2009 /  #148
Harry you have never been in Poland, you're just posting here because you dont like Polish people and take every occasion to beat the piss outta them, your knowledge of Polish psyche exceeds only your ability to avoid your own piss while urinating against the wind.
Randal  1 | 577  
18 Mar 2009 /  #149
And yet he was able to so succinctly access you.
mafketis  38 | 11009  
18 Mar 2009 /  #150
I tend to agree with Harry (though I don't share his disdain for Polish values).

Young Polish adults accept a _lot_ more interference from their parents than US (or UK) young adults are likely to. And those from small towns or villages accept more interference than young urban adults do. Parental interference is actually a big cause of marital failure and both women and men are likely to side with their parents against their spouse.

Back to this particular case, I'm still waiting for the other shoe to drop. I'm pretty sure there's important info that we're not being told (either because Ireland32 is trying to maintain some privacy or because he doesn't know himself).

I'm beginning to lean toward the theory that she's playing him and a plea for money 'to escape' is in the offing (to be followed by a second plea because the parents or boyfriend 'took' the first payment).

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