Why english men like polish women ?

Family breakdown??? where do you live? some of these guys dont even see or know their children, they father them and thats it.. their gone.. leaving the mothers to fend on their own.. and their not married.. they dont want to marry because then it would mean they would have to be responsible and thats way to much for them to handle.. so they leave women and if you want to look up statistics go ahead.. Ive dated plenty of guys who didnt want to be fathers or get married but they sure did want to get busy in the sack.. no strings.. and plenty who dont want women with children, its ok for them to father them and leave though.. you have no idea how hard it is for single mothers.. so yes I can use this as my base because its part of the reason why we women become so independent because so many men are deadbeats and irresponsible.


what money?? most are fighting to get help from the father who is no where to be found... you talking of familys who split, and there is actual marriage, thats not where I am going.. theres plenty of young men now a days that only worry about having sex.. they have it, they get the girl preg.. they leave.

whos paying the bills barney?? certainly not you.. wheres the money barney?? wheres the leverage you speak of?? so why shouldnt women get the same pay to keep food on the table barney?? why shouldn t they get the same health coverage for a family barney?? why would you want anything less for a child that you wouldnt have to pay for because its being taken care of..

alot of women get into these positions yes, but not alone,, they cannot impregnate themselfs.. so the bloke runs off to fa la la land and leaves the girls alone to make some heavy decisions!! now what smart arse!!

should she wait for her pickett fence or should she get a job and be independent!!

come up with a good one so I can shoot that down too.. I have my bazooka cocked ..

You don’t know me.

If you noticed I agreed with your statement. Absent parents should support their children both financially and emotionally. If they don’t do so willingly one has the option of court action and if the absent parent cannot be located it says a lot about their choice of partner.

I see families as being more than a married couple with children. When these relationships break down leverage is used. Men do use money as Women use children in these conflicts. No one comes out looking good or smelling of roses. Quite often it comes down to balancing conflicting rights.

That is what I meant when I said you should not use family breakdown as an argument to advance female emancipation.

I didn’t mention abandoned children you did.


I would like to see women take control of their lives before such a scenario arises. Having children with an irresponsible partner indicates a lack of choice. Accidents happen but not in most cases. When does the independence start? Before or after conception? I would like to see independence start with making informed life choices.

You are not going to get any argument from me opposing quality child care, addressing the disparity in gender income or most other touchstone issues that help to empower women.

Where you will get an argument is blaming this situation on men who are all “off drinking and doing drugs”.

Women do prevent men from seeing their children, poison the child’s mind against the father and play the innocent victim. Not all or even the majority but some. I don’t make assumptions based upon that.


As a responsible parent (absent or not) should.

I wouldn’t however base sweeping generalisations upon such a small possibility. Nor would I base sweeping generalisations upon the fact that the vast majority of infanticide is perpetrated by the child’s own mother.


Again you don’t know me

So the girl falls pregnant against her will,she cannot take any precautions at all.Accidents happen.


Of course.Each man's dream is to impregnate a girl and then leave her.


So why then most divorces are asked by women since they are the ones who care about the stability of marriage?What is going on?The irresponsible father wants to stay in marriage and the responsible woman wants to get a divorce?

Rather smelly situation.
Men sense this trap.Marriage means obligations and great possibility of divorce when the princess changes her mind.And then they will have to pay during all their lives.So they prefer relationships without marriage.

why do English men like Polish women ? let me illustrate....
There is this awful backlash in the UK from the “GIRL POWER” mentallity started by groups such as The Spice girls etc….
ever since that, girls seem to think they have the right to be hostile and rude to men (even if they are fat and ugly and the guy is good looking and charming/polite) and just generally have this “I don’t need a man” mentality…

In my opinion this creates a huge social problem and makes the men more effeminate also…. the amount of young single men in the UK is astonishing… when I have been in Poland, the guys seem to have no problem finding a polish girlfriend…

Many of my friends, including me have found our girlfriends from different countries - not because we are pathetic with women - but because we don’t want a fat stuck up cow who wont do anything but sit in front of the TV watching big brother, farting and getting fatter by the second.

I know this will upset these type of women - but I’m sorry, you will all end up alone… we like our women to behave like women - not loutish beer swilling men. Polish women on the other hand know how to behave like a woman and are sweet and feminine.

Regards,
Hank

not a million miles from the truth

Do you honestly believe this? Tell me Hank, do you honestly believe that a group of badly performing girls actually influenced females in the UK. The fan base for the Spice girls was 7 - 11 year olds :)


Not true, but maybe this is backlash from women being treated badly by men who act like thirsty dogs with no manners and have the level of commitment of a tom cat.


Really, they have no problem in chatting up English women whilst they're over here and their wives / girlfriends are in Poland, so what are you tryng to make?


We find love in all walks of life, I’m glad that you found someone you are compatible with.


Because English men all look like Adonis? with the intellect of a grand master?


Who are these types of women? you seem to have clumped all English women together saying that we're all fat, abuse biatches! I do hope that you don't have a mother or sisters!

touched on a nerve?

Not at all, Im waiting for you to answer my questions and make any comments, "touched a nerve" will not surfice. :)

I will never understand women as long as I live and I have given up trying to.

yes now you understand them just perfect

haha

I think both the guys and the girls have a point here? I think we have many solutions to avoid getting yourself pregnant though. I think it all comes down to honesty and attitude?

It's fair to tell the men about responsibilities, but it's also fair to point out that it's your own responsibility who you choose to spend a night with? If the guy tells you that he doesn't want to get married, then it's completely up to you wether you sleep with him or not..

And about the attitude, it really doesn't matter if you're Polish, English, Dutch, German, Spanish, Italian, (Etc!) If you want a nice guy, then you should really try to be nice sometimes..

You know what they say, what goes around, comes around..

well from a guy that has been around a bit,, time wise that is lol,, hank is not far from the truth as bubba agree's....

i have been brought up well and have excellent manners,, open doors, buy her drinks keep her dry when getting wet all these things an english man is actually well known for,not to mention to be polite... right thats out the way i will say that i dont agree with the spice girls explanation, but it is well known over her about the bad attitude of a high percentage of english girls (in the south mostly) and it is a breath of fresh air to meet polish girls that are very attractive that have no attitude and are a delight to talk too,, making it a pleasure to be around them and to treat them to drinks .and things....with out expecting anything in return............

i have experienced the bad attitude of both good looking and quite fat and ugly girls even though we are just enjoying ourselves.in uk bars and clubs..this on my few trips to poland i have not experienced..........a joy to go out and just meet new friends...but it is not all english girls but a high percentage of the younger generation.....

cause they look beauiful..like women from every country

if you love her it does not matter how she is or what she does ,and not all english ladys behave or are like that.

i m sure the are a few spanish or polish cows to

Because they are near perfect in every sense. Sadly there are none living near me lol

Rubbish. They are no better or worse overall than any other woman. Some thing are good and some are miserable.

The only men who would say they are perfect have never lived with them, spent time with their families, or had one scream at him out of the blue about how it is his fault her jeans are tighter and it is somehow his fault.

it's a matter of somebody's taste gtd...

some taste like chicken though..... ;)

Personal choice gtd

Sure it is...and I am saying I can't believe you are basing that opinion on anything substantial. As you said there are none around you. Live with one for a few years and see how perfect they are...

and again.... maybe not perfect for you, but perfect for him...
beside, perfect does not exist...
and everybody defines 'perfect' differently...

And Im sure I said 'near' Perfect lol

I am not saying the guy can't believe it. I am saying I 'bet' he likely hasn't lived with one for any time or done anything other than spend short periods with them as the fantasy ideals people have are never the reality.

I would wager real money that he would not feel the same after living with a Polish girl for a few years...doesn't mean he wouldn't like her but I am sure the 'near perfect label would wear off.

It's like these guys who post "Oh I was in Poland for one week and met the most perfect girl and I would do anything, sell my flat, give her all my money,,,yadda yadda because she is so perfect"...it's a very eye rolling thing to read.

Clear enough?

to me yes, but obviously not to you...

Nah its very clear to me but thanks for telling me what I understand.

I get what he was saying and all I am saying is that I think he will think differently after experience. That's all.

what age group are you talking about ?
i dont know if it is different in Uk,but from what I have gathered most men in their late 20s and early 30s are willing to commit.

but basically it is easy to put the blame on ones own culture's opposite sex ("they are so fat/stupid/...")
I have had terrible experiences with finnish women and i dont have much good things to say about them but those are just my experiences nothing more.

These relationships issues etc are the ones where everyone can say anything, and everyone is "right"

How do you know a Finnish girl is excited?

She looks at your feet instead of hers. ;)

You have got the wrong end of the stick there, Miranda.

Imagine if the average house sold for 1 million pounds. How many people would buy it? Not many, right?

Families used to get by with just the Husband working, and the Wife maybe doing some work if she WANTED too. Because of this, you could only charge so much for the average house.

Now, if both people in a relationship are working, they have more money to spend. This means that the average house can be sold for more money as there is a higher income available to pay the mortgage. The downside is that Women are now FORCED to work full-time as well as their partner in order to buy even the most rat-infested hell-hole in Britain.

Thanks, feminism.

How many Women out there now are sick of their 'Careers' and would rather be taking care of their kids themselves and not by some minimum-wage Nanny?

Personally, I think my future family will come a long way before my Job, and I would expect my future Wife to think likewise.

Nobody on their death bed ever wished they spent more time at the office!

Any age group - I worked in a male dominated industry on a secondment for 12 months in that time I had over 20 propositions from married men! all English! That's not what I call committed to marriage.

You are from the North of England arn't you? I must admit we are a great bunch of people. Quite unique really, I like to think so.


Oh! what a great role model Margaret was, what exactly are her children doing now. Do they have a permanent job! I suspect not, but they do have great "Victorian Values". Margaret Thatcher was about one person only and that was herself and power at the time.