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MrBubbles  10 | 613  
13 Mar 2009 /  #661
I have my views, I have my beliefs - leave me fucking alone

That's all very well but you don't live on an island. Like it or not we all have to live in societies and I'm sorry to say there are members of society who need to learn about people different to them. This "I'm all right Jack" attitude is the cause of most orf the problems in the world.
Randal  1 | 577  
13 Mar 2009 /  #662
I have my views, I have my beliefs - leave me fucking alone.

Right. And leave my kids alone.

This "I'm all right Jack" attitude is the cause of most orf the problems in the world.

No it is not. Forcing one's beliefs on others is.
z_darius  14 | 3960  
13 Mar 2009 /  #663
This "I'm all right Jack" attitude is the cause of most orf the problems in the world.

Problems in the world?

These are some of the real problems the world faces.

About the only problems American gays face is whether to wear red or pink.
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
13 Mar 2009 /  #664
No it is not. Forcing one's beliefs on others is.

I bet you wouldn't object if two beautiful lesbians asked you back to their place to watch? Such double standards exist where men are concerned!
MrBubbles  10 | 613  
13 Mar 2009 /  #665
No it is not. Forcing one's beliefs on others is.

Racism, sexism, ageism whatever - all based on ignorance. Society is fractured because people don't want to understand others and compromise with them. People who sit there saying "I want my own fucking life and my own beliefs, stay out of my fucknig way" forget they rely on other people to get them food and drink, to build things, to keep the cities clean and even to run the internet. Sure you can go your own way, just stop taking advantage of everything society gives you. Until then, learn to live with people.

These are some of the real problems the world faces.

Poverty? And what is the cause of that? Hmmm?

I bet you wouldn't object if two beautiful lesbians asked you back to their place to watch?

I probably would. they're bound to have some weirdo in a gimp suit strapped to the bedroom wall or something.
niejestemcapita  2 | 561  
13 Mar 2009 /  #666
some weirdo in a gimp suit strapped to the bedroom wall

;0)Oh bubbles u amuse me so....
HatefulBunch397  - | 658  
13 Mar 2009 /  #667
It would be cool though if you did not attribute the quotes to me, as I am not the author of the text, but I rather quote others.

Okay, sorry about that, Dariuz. I didn't realize it would look that way.
Randal  1 | 577  
13 Mar 2009 /  #668
I bet you wouldn't object if two beautiful lesbians asked you back to their place to watch? Such double standards exist where men are concerned!

No double standard. See, in your hypothetical I was asked, not forced to comply. Besides, it is unlikely as I don’t much see sexual contact as a spectator sport.

Poverty? And what is the cause of that?

Laziness.
Wroclaw Boy  
13 Mar 2009 /  #669
I bet you wouldn't object if two beautiful lesbians asked you back to their place to watch?

Does that mean you have a fantasy of watching two men bugger each other?

Racism, sexism, ageism whatever - all based on ignorance.

Eradicate ignorance and what would we have? A harmonious society, with everybody agreeing on everything, bugger me we would all be clones......
HatefulBunch397  - | 658  
13 Mar 2009 /  #670
they're bound to have some weirdo in a gimp suit strapped to the bedroom wall or something.

Velcro's better.
z_darius  14 | 3960  
13 Mar 2009 /  #671
Poverty? And what is the cause of that? Hmmm?

Whatever the cause is gay "education" won't solve it, so don't compare dying kids around the world to two men feeling shy when they try to make out in a stall on at a stop on New Jersey Turnpike.
Wroclaw Boy  
13 Mar 2009 /  #672
MrBubbles:
they're bound to have some weirdo in a gimp suit strapped to the bedroom wall or something.

Which one of 'em
you want to do first?

I ain't for sure yet.

Eenie, meenie, minie, mo.

Catch a nigger by the toe.

'Pulp Fiction'
ZIMMY  6 | 1601  
13 Mar 2009 /  #673
I bet you wouldn't object if two beautiful lesbians asked you back to their place to watch? Such double standards exist where men are concerned!

Interesting that they have to be "beautiful" isn't it? No one can stomach watching two fat dykes (if you excuse my expression) going at it. Having said that, what does it matter if some people are gay? That's up to them.

The only issue is this; don't push some favored status agenda on people/government.
MrBubbles  10 | 613  
13 Mar 2009 /  #674
so don't compare dying kids around the world to two men feeling shy when they try to make out in a stall on at a stop on New Jersey Turnpike.

My god you must be desperate to throw a hail mary shot like that. "Children dying in Africa is more serious than telling people about homosexuals so you are a bastard for implying otherwise." Ha ha! I laugh at you and your pathetic arguments. Ha!

Ha ha ha!

MrBubbles:
Poverty? And what is the cause of that?

Laziness.

No Randy, not laziness. Are you saying that Poles have less money because they are lazy? No, we're talking about the capitalist system which is based on selfishness and greed. A system that appeals to the basest instincts in people to feather their own nest and let others go hungry. I people appreciate the problems other societies and other parts of their own society encounter, they will become better people because of it, and yes, the world will become a better place.

Eradicate ignorance and what would we have? A harmonious society, with everybody agreeing on everything,

No, people don't have to agree but at least when they disagree they will know what they're talking about
Wroclaw Boy  
13 Mar 2009 /  #675
Come on then who on here is a pillow biter? whos putting from the rough?
Randal  1 | 577  
13 Mar 2009 /  #676
No Randy, not laziness. Are you saying that Poles have less money because they are lazy? No, we're talking about the capitalist system which is based on selfishness and greed. A system that appeals to the basest instincts in people to feather their own nest and let others go hungry. I people appreciate the problems other societies and other parts of their own society encounter, they will become better people because of it, and yes, the world will become a better place.

Libs always make excuses for the lazy, making them out as some sort of victims. You can’t attribute poverty to capitalism. What about all the poverty in non-capitalistic societies? At least under Capism “greed” as you call it, everyone has a fighting chance for a piece of the greed pie.
ZIMMY  6 | 1601  
13 Mar 2009 /  #677
we're talking about the capitalist system which is based on selfishness and greed

Wealth is not inherently wrong. I've never been hired by someone poorer than me. Have you?

Capitalism made the U.S. great because it promoted individualism, not "Animal Farm" socialism where bureaucrats know better than you and then tell you how to lead your life.

As to claiming that capitalism lets others "go hungry", it's amazing that most of the world's hungry come from places that promote authoritarian rule and/or socialism.......isn't it? The poor in the U.S. have tv's and sometimes automobiles. That's middle class in most of the world.
Randal  1 | 577  
13 Mar 2009 /  #678
The poor in the U.S. have tv's and sometimes automobiles. That's middle class in most of the world.

"America: Where our 'poor' are fat!"

I don't want to hear about how "poor" someone is until I see some ribs showing.
MrBubbles  10 | 613  
13 Mar 2009 /  #679
You can’t attribute poverty to capitalism

The capitalist economy is based on debt. The more debt, the hotter the economy. You can't have debt if everyone is rich and doesn't need money. Capitalism therefore relies on poor people borrowing money and putting themselves in debt.

At least under Capism “greed” as you call it, everyone has a fighting chance for a piece of the greed pie.

But they don't. The biggest players in the Capitalist system work hard to secure their position through fair means of foul. Can the trailer trash where you live ever become rich? Of course not - they can get an education and start working for the man or possibly open their own business but they'll find it nearly impossible to break into a sector dominated by a large business (open a market next to Tesco and you'll see what I mean).

Anyway, if anyone can make a fortune on the capitalist system, how come there's a need for a monopolies commission to stop businesses getting too big?

As to claiming that capitalism lets others "go hungry", it's amazing that most of the world's hungry come from places that promote authoritarian rule and/or socialism.......isn't it?

Go read about Cuba sometime.
Wroclaw Boy  
13 Mar 2009 /  #680
Wealth is not inherently wrong. I've never been hired by someone poorer than me. Have you?

Your damn right i have

Note: never put manager in your profile, thats just wrong.

Wikianswers:

According to the US Census, in 2006 the US the city of San Francisco has the highest percentage of individuals identifying as gay, lesbian or bisexual - 15.9%. Seattle is the 2nd highest - 12.9%. Check out the Williams Institute on Sexual Orientation Law and Public Policy at the University of California, Los Angeles.

Loads of Brits seem to be gay these days, not many Poles though. Any thoughts?
Wroclaw Boy  
13 Mar 2009 /  #682
"America: Where our 'poor' are fat!"

I don't want to hear about how "poor" someone is until I see some ribs showing.

Thats good, i like that.

I leant a friend life blood money once and then he fucked off on holiday, im like what! you should be down Asda buying bargain basement butter.
Randal  1 | 577  
13 Mar 2009 /  #683
The biggest players in the Capitalist system work hard to secure their position through fair means of foul.

See, that’s the Socialist’s view of Capitalism which insists that there must be someone oppressed for others to succeed. Always a victims and a villain. And it is wrong. More than just wrong, it is dishonest of the Socialists to attempt to frame Capitalism in this way. But then Socialism requires such lying to succeed.

But what does any of this have to do with rumphumpers indoctrinating school children?
MrBubbles  10 | 613  
13 Mar 2009 /  #684
Always a victims and a villain.

Capitalist societies - there are rich people and there are poor people. You can't avoid it. The Poles love capitalism because they thnik it'll solve all their problems. A small proportion of Poland have bought a little flat somewhere, wear a leather jacket and pikey jewellery and think they've made it because they're not as poor as they used to be.

Unfortunately it's an illusion. they feel rich because they buy cheap and nasty electronics produced by factories in China which pay barely enough for the workers to live on, or they buy clothes that are produced in the slums of Bombay by 10 year olds. And that's the fact - at the end of the day, someone has to pay for it and it's usually the poorest one.

I repeat, capitalist economies run on debt.
Randal  1 | 577  
13 Mar 2009 /  #685
there are rich people and there are poor people

Yeah. In every society under every economic system. And even your precious Socialist places recieve goods from the workers in the places you mention -many of whom are glad to have the work, btw.
MrBubbles  10 | 613  
13 Mar 2009 /  #686
many of whom are glad to have the work

I'm sure the 10 year olds working fo Nike would wholeheartedly agree with you, Randy. Every child loves football and what better way to get one's foot on the ladder to playing for Manchester united than stitching footballs and trainers 12 hours a day? Who knows what the future holds for these young scamps? Of course, as long as they remain in the capitalist system there's every chance they could be running the sweatshop one day and playfully clipping other young lads round the ear to squeeze some more work out of them.
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
13 Mar 2009 /  #687
and pikey jewellery

Have they got Elizabeth Dukes in Poland? ;0)

Interesting that they have to be "beautiful" isn't it? No one can stomach watching two fat dykes (if you excuse my expression) going at it. Having said that, what does it matter if some people are gay? That's up to them

Well you wouldn't want to watch two "ugly" anything at it really...not unless you secretly fantasise about two ten ton tessies bouncing on each other!
Randal  1 | 577  
13 Mar 2009 /  #688
Boo-hoo. You gonna feel guilty for everyone on the planet?

And what does any of this have to do with homos? Are gays oppressed, forced to work in sweatshops?
MrBubbles  10 | 613  
13 Mar 2009 /  #689
Boo-hoo. You gonna feel guilty for everyone on the planet?

Denial isn't just a river in Egypt, Randy.

And what does any of this have to do with homos?

I quoted capitalism as an example of the selfishness of today's society and people's lack of empathy with others, you ran with the ball. I then trashed your arguments so we're finally moving back to discussing botters.
Randal  1 | 577  
13 Mar 2009 /  #690
I didn’t see you trash anything other than your own guilt-ridden circular nonsense, Bubble Boy. Lol…

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