Haunted Homes in Poland

Ive known one friend who used a ouija board regularly, everytime i mention it he gets really angry. He will not say a word about it, fear seems to come over him.

I wouldnt touch one of those.

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The upstairs room has a cupboard built into one corner and the picture is inside the door.

The book we bought said it was a picture of either the devil or an old testament prophet but it is obviously a picture of Poseidon. Interestingly, the pub is called The Nag's Head (Nag is an old word for a horse) and Poseidon is god of horses.

Supposedly, and the landlord says it is true, any attempt to paint over the picture is useless as it just comes back through the paint.


Haha, I like it.

Now the pub doesn't use that room for guests. I asked if it was because of the curse. The landlord said partly that and just because the room has no heating and is pretty cold. He uses it as a store room now.

The pub itself is pretty old (15th C wooden framework outside) and serves some pretty decent ale.

Oh I just had a passing thought whilst trying to visualise this building and Wild cop, World Cup Wyle cap just sprung to mind, with a mixture of black and white wood. a slight incline. I don't know if this means anything

You my friend should talk to Aristotle; he believes the same way you do. ^_^

According to the discover shropshire site:

The street space, now given the single name Wyle Cop, earlier nomenclature distinguished between the top of the hill (Wyle Cop, Super Wilam), the gradient (the Wyle), and the floodplain (Under the Wyle/sub Wila). Hobbs recorded the possibility that the name derives from the Welsh hwylfa-a road leading up a hillside, and the Welsh coppa-top, or head.

I think there's also the germanic term Kop for a hill (like "spion kop", the spy hill which the Liverpool stand is named after)

There are lots of black and white buildings there: (see second row of pictures)
yourlocalweb.co.uk/shropshire/frankwell/pictures

historicalhostelries.co.uk/000013.html

Some have even been condemned to roam the Polish Forums for eternity ;)

It does not surprise me that superstitious people find something and interpret it as supernatural.
It is of course good fun to scare yourself,
the mind is a powerful thing and the adrenalin, blood pumping through your vains and heightened state of awareness, are all very stimulating.
There are many ways of digesting data and humans are pattern forming creatures.
Just look at a cloud and tell me what you see.

The simple truth is, you die and that's the end.
A lot of you reading that won't like it.

Aw, spoilsport... and I was looking forward to dying!

The guy who wrote the book goes on about how evil it is (and incorrectly desscribes it) and says how one journalist nearly broke her ankle leaving the room. He doesn't mention that the stairs are really very steep and narrow.

SeanBM theres just too many unsolved mysteries for that to be the truth. Ask your self how the hell did you get here in the middle of this timeless universe in a spec of a world. What made you? what got you here, right now, and how will you get someplace else?

I ponder the realities of life live through your children etc.. but thats all bull shite IMO. If you die and that is the end then nothing makes sense. Thats for sure, its just a shell mate.

I totally accept yout theory, and know many believe the same. Sometimes i have shared your opinion and maybe i will in the future, but not right now. Keep faith hope is a good thing. Plus ive seen a ghost.


Hitlers gaurdian angel must have been one bad mutha fcuker.

Unsolved mysteries are just mysteries because they are unsolved.


I know my parents had something to do with it ;)


I flew in to Krakow's Balice airport and it will probably be my escape route too.


Nobody said it had to make sense.


All you are is dust in the wind.
See I can talk in metaphors too but it still means nothing.



I see the appeal but I would prefer to live in the real world than a made up fairytale.
I also see the appeal of Santa Claus...


I believe that you believe, you saw a ghost.
That is as far as I would go with that one.

LOL. gotta dash you lot will not have to put up with me for a few hours. SeanBM to be continued...

A ghost... is something which is not present... but the shadow of something past. As though..."the ghost of her memories..."

Its related to something that happened.... once upon a time. Pasts often haunt us too... if they are sinister...or unfinished. And when we feel we cannot do anything about it, that is the time when it makes us helpless, and seems too overwhelmingly powerful...because its done in its undoingness.... and we are undone is our progressive present.

Ghosts...thus... might just be according to how it is defined. But not exactly how we like to decode its definition.

i will tell my adduction by the aliens one day , also i will tell you when i met William Shakesphere.

Now how can you be really sure Sean, noone has every come back to tell the tale.

Now how can you be really sure ? because noone has every come back to tell the tale.

Many unsolved mysteries remain unsolved as they are unsolvable.


What your soul? Thats you through and through youre a genetic blue print form them, but spiritually and independant as the rest of us. Traits exist, looks, similarities even, but the soul is all unique.


Nobody said anything, it is what it is, take what you will from that. In the best interest of man it should make sense but it just doesnt. nothing does really except whats right in front of you. Thats wrong.


Science and reality tells us this, all the time, its right there as plain as day. But day doesnt even make sense really does it. Next time you doubt anythingt just look up on a cloudless night, and then think what you typed here and make sense of it.

This does not automatically mean there is a super natural.


What soul?.
I have a mind but not a soul in the religious sense of the word.



Why?.


You are confusing my Atheism with lack of awe at the magnificence of the universe.
They are two very very different things, one is Santa Claus the other is the Universe.

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I remember in Alchemia, you said you were going to have it out with me on here because I am Atheist :)

Oh loads of spirits in there too. I've seen them there especially at 4 in the morning!

Does God believe in atheists?

Of course not, but it does prove that certain scientistst theorys are crap.


What no soul, what makes you you? The brain? your fetures? the way you behave? I believev what makes you you is the soul. You cant see it on any Doctors chart, X ray or easily describe it, it exists within ones self. It is the very essence of your individuality


good / evil, we're led to believe whats right in front of us regardless. Go around killing people and youll figure that one out all for yourself. Good question and relevant, no clear cut answer. What there is real, were only equipped to deal with what we can percieve, many guests percieve the wrong images and ongoings and forget about the big picture. In all walks of life not only this but the next too..

If something is a mystery, it doesn't prove squat.


What makes you believe that?.


I don't honestly think there is a next life.

Im not saying it does, im saying that it proves certain issues are unexplainable.


Dude come on with the scientific questions we all have a brain and a body, a soul is what seppeartes you from me and what essentially makes us individual. Its the real person deep inside.


I dont think there is a next life either, but there is something.

I don't think so, unless I am in physical contact with someone or agree with them, I am separate from everyone in body and mind.


I think people very often want to believe that there is something.
Fear of death, the unknown, does not mean there is anything after life and we comfort ourselves with fair tales.
I think people would be better off focusing on this one life than making up stuff about another.

Thats exactly what i said.


Of course they do, thats human nature


Correct


Amen, youre not having any of it are you SeanBM? Fair doo's, i respect your stance..

Naw, I have given this a lot of thought and until I get proven evidence to the contrary, I will continue not believing.

Youre not going to get any solid evidence. Im happy youve given it a lot of thought atleast, it exists wether you believe or not..


I dont understand that if youre referring to an old thread i cant remember, funnily enough i was browsing over some very old threads recently when you first became a member and i told you to bugger off from my Friday night trolling spot. lol

Just browsed over this thread and last nights banter, some of it made sense, im not questioning your religion im not a religious person and when i mentioned soul it wasnt in the religious context.

Perhaps we should leave this one for now and just call it an unsolved mystery.

After Paintballing, after the BBQ we were scullin pints in Alchemia, the bar, and some how it came up that I am an Atheist and you said you'd have it out with me on PF for that:)


I think everyone did ;)


Good because I don't have one.


Then I think mind and soul are the same thing.


The lack of any objective evidence would make it impossible to solve now.

Why don't you both just agree to disagree. Nobody knows what is on the otherside until you die and therefore noone can relate this back.

I personally believe that there is something on the otherside, not the afterlife, but your spirit lives on. When people die in. hopitals they open the windows the let the spirit out, even in life it is the spirit of a person that makes them who they are, not the body.

So basically it is okay for you to "believe" but not okay for me to say it is rubbish.

I dislike that word "belief", you can basically believe anything with absolutely no evidence, it is simply ridiculous.


There is no other side.


No it doesn't, you die and that's it.
This airy Fairy rubbish is just ridiculous.


Decomposition of the body, releasing of gases after death.


No it is not.

Sean this is why I said agree to disagree. You have your beliefs other people have their beliefs. Just call it a day, because everyone could debate until they are "blue in the face" and it will not change anything.

I don't have a belief, belif requires no evidence.


You can't say that and then go on to spout your belief, this is a public forum and I have as much right to post my opinion on here as you do.


So why then do you continue?.



These two comments together, in your one post, one after another, reads that I should not post here because your belief is more important some how.

You are basically saying there is no point in discussing it at all and then you go on to state your views.

I find it often, with people who have absolutely no evidence for the things they believe, to want to stop the discussion as some kind of quasi mystical mystery and I disagree.

Tell me this Lexi, humans have been around for about 200,000 years, so why are all these superstitious ghost stories only from the last two hundred years?.

Does your belief in a spirit include other animals and plants or is it just humans?.