Haunted Homes in Poland

I did not say that, you can say whatever you like, like anyone else but the end result is going to be deadlock. You have your opinion and I have my opinion, no leeway ends in deadlock. Therefore there is no point of furthering this discussion, it will only lead to bad feeling unless new material can be produced to the contrary.

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And the topic is:

Haunted Homes in Poland

I protest... that last post was an answer to the topic. I regularly ask my studetns in Poland about ghost stories and they don't know anything

Only because they don't exist :)

Like half the thread now.

There'd probably be loads of ghosts in Poland but the mods delete them.

How do you know they don't exist?

He doesn't :- D .. Lots and lots of people have experienced what they thought were spirits around the world. A lot of their experiences are simliar. Can they all be making them up? Are they all delusional?

human mind is a powerful thing

Ouija Board scientific explenation:


So the boffins have admitted that it moves, but its not a spirit that moves it but ones Subconscious. Theyve got some crappy theortetical answer for everything.

Lol, what happens in the plachette (triangle) moves by itself? I've had that happen before for asking it a dull question. :-/

You open your mind up to another dimension. Maybe?

Ok. Opened... now?

As do the faithful and the superstitious. At least this scientific theory is based on something substantial (i.e., the fact that the user's hands are always connected to the object that is "mysteriously" moving and the acknowledged power of the subconscious human mind).


Just like our ancestors opened their minds to the possibility that their misfortunes were being caused by angry gods. Look where that line of thinking has gotten us. Centuries of conflict and death caused by arguments over one group's interpretation of "god" vs. another's. Thanks a lot, people of faith. Keep it up and we're all doomed.

You had that happen? please do tell.

As we all know ghouls like to party and if a spirit doesn't appear then you can get it together with your "friend".


Yes all that daylight interference with the spirit world or because you can not see well, your imagination races.
And it will make you look more attractive to the "friend" you are trying to impress in the first place.


So you can get it together with your "friend".


This is just foreplay.


"am I going to get laid tonight or is all of this just a waste of my time?".


Touch her lightly with your finger tips.


Put on a bit of a show, you are trying to get in to your "friend's" knickers.
Least you can do is go round lightly using your fingers, foreplay, she'll like it.


I think that is sound advise, never let a board control you.
Unless you want a bit of rough.


Wanna get naked?.


I think it would be inevitable, if the person is stupid enough to believe that they are going to pick up chicks with a "magik" board, then they are bound to spoil the whole thing by asking stupid questions.


Basically, it is a crock of ****, anyone who worries what a board tells them,
A. their friend will never shag them.
B. they have mental problems.


Don't ask because it is crap and won't work.


Hahaha, yep boards are not a source of lotto numbers, know why? because it is all crap,


Ouija, helping kids get pregnant for centuries.


Ah ha but read the rest of the same artical


Penn & Teller Ouija Board part 2

thast almost as bad as Colin Edwards contacting the dead on live TV, come on.


Lets play tricks on the spirits.

maybe you should try one. I wouldnt go near one personally i have heard too many bad stories. Youd be a fool to mess with that in my opinion. But if youre looking for something give it a go, even the sub conscious mind theory sounds very interesting.

hahaha, naw, same way I am not going to look for unicorns or sleep in a graveyard.

We got anti Ouija board propaganda in school in religion class, demon possession and all, it was so stupid the people they were talking about were mad as hatters.

The reason the ouija board works is that it uses the person as a medium a gate if you will, blind fold the person and the results would be obvious.


A physical sign would give any human in denial a serious fright, probably fcuk them up for the rest of their lives in fact.

I don't think reason comes into it.


So why do a ouija board at all then and why ask for a sign.
I am not going to be convinced of a board with "special powers", its cardboard.
It doesn't use me, it doesn't have the ability to channel dead souls through me, it's just a kind of paper, wood at best.

Maybe you wish to try and contact a dead relative, looking for something, curious, interested in the unexplainable, many reasons. If you have a connection and lets say its not a particulalry friendly and powerful one i wouldnt wish to ask for a sign. Time and time again its been proven, i know people who will not talk about it at all.

Theres something you didnt list here on your research, it appears that many connections spell out grotesque and vile words. One explenation is that these words exist in ones subconscious, thats true but i dont believe thats the reason.


Yes cardboard or wood, its the process and opportunity it creates not what its made of.


Maybe not channel through you, but there is something about it which defies belief.

I don't see not talking about something as proof.


Why not?


I agree.


Defies reality, I would say.

There is a place in Ireland called the seven miracles of four Ireland.
One of the "miracles" is a tree that can not be burned but if you tried you would rot in hell for all of eternity.

It's bull, superstitious mumbo jumbo, they have done studies in to Voodoo, interestingly enough Voodoo only works on people who believe, same with all these superstitions.

The mind is a very powerful tool, your whole world perspective can change through belief but that does not mean the whole world has changed.

I and i dont think i know anybody that would do such a thing. Im not sure of the actual words but from the desciptions they sound rather disgusting, evil perhaps.


indeed on the other thread you want to say something about my dream premonitions, you cant say anything that will alter the reality or explain it away on the mind unless you admit i can see the future. My wife is living proof, if i hadnt told her months before then maybe.

so through descriptions from you friends, they are saying that the ouija board can say evil words?
In English? more evil than the vile racist remarks that are sometimes posted on this forum?


I can't admit that you see the future.
But you probably knew I was going to say that :)


Okay.

No, i read it on a site i cant find it now and i said vile and perhaps evil words. Ive heard stories form friends but one friend in particular had a board in his house and used it regularly. I asked him one day about it and he bacome angry and told me in no uncertain terms to shut up, he would not talk about it at all.

Just googled ouija boards and found this conversation between a board and users:
graveaddiction.com/ouija012007a.html

Theers plenty more at:
graveaddiction.com/ouija.html

heres a good one:
paralumun.com/ouijaboard.htm


It appears that the spirits channel the energy of those using it.

Wroclaw Boy
Actually i wrote disgusting but the site i read mentioned vile, my mistake.

Im ploughing through the Ouija conversations, these guys are a bit freaky but there is evidence here:
graveaddiction.com/ouija072003b.html

If I had been in the room, I might consider it evidence, but just reading someones account just doesn't do it for me.

It's like your dream (from the Athiest thread). For you, the dream / premonition must have had quite an affect on you. By sharing it in detail with your wife, I am sure it brought it home in a much more real sense (when it came true) because you shared it with her. If you had of told her after the fact (of it coming true), it would not have seemed as "authentic".

I think one needs to be personally involved by an experience (premonition, Near death experience, psychic event, ghostly encounter etc...) in order to truly believe. Otherwise, it just seems a little contrived - especially if you are of a fixed mindset.

SeanBM is an arrogant atheist, too bad for him I'm an arrogant agnostic.

1. No, there is no true knowing of whether there is an afterlife or not.

2. No, there is no knowing of whether humans contain a force/spirit/soul or not.

3. No, the concept of God and the afterlife does not have to be what some priests wrote in some thick book. After all, if there is a God, who are humans to be the know it all's about him?

4. How can you fully prove there is no God or afterlife, just as one cannot fully prove that there is one. Which leads to Pascal's theorem, one cannot absolutely disprove something that doesn't even exist to begin with.

5. This human race needs to stop being so egocentric and thinking they know all about all. The universe and it's workings are an epically massive hole of which we have only dug a fraction at most. As Einstein once said, "We shall never know the truth to it all, for wonder and unknown always need exist."


My point exactly...

There are said to be some in this region. There is one in £abędy, just outside Gliwice. My friend is a ghosthunter and he has all the apparatus.

:)
Can religions be arrogant?

I am not going to attempt to answer your points 1-3 as they deal with the same false logic in number 4, i.e. we can't prove it so I am unsure if Zeus exists, so I will hedge my bets and sit on the fence.


Pascal's theorem???

Even if he made such an argument as "one cannot absolutely disprove something that doesn't even exist to begin with."
It is a bad argument at best because there are so many gods/superstitions/made up imaginary places, animals etc that it would be silly to 'believe' them all, with no proof just because you can not prove they don't exist.

So if I say a cat the size of an elephant is hiding behind the moon, you would be sceptical but you would not disbelieve what I say.

Zues :)


Einstein never said that.

Here is something he did say "The most incomprehensible thing about the world is that it is at all comprehensible."


If there's something strange,
in your neighborhood,
who are you gonna call,
Your friend with all the apparatus?

What equipment does he have?
Does he shop in the Ghost humter Store?
It always impresses me that you can find anything on the net hahaha

I have been watching a lot of John Edwards on Sky lately. You know the celebrity medium that claims to contact spirits of the dead and channels them in front of a live studio audience. I have come to the conclusion that hes either an incredible actor or that he does possess some extraordinary gift.

I think he's the real deal. Unless certain guests (or friends of guests) are playing tricks and information has been handed to Edwards before hand i dont see how its possible he can do what he does.