Condoms and the Catholic church in Poland

There is so much difference within Christianity, beyond the traditional categorisation into Orthodox, Catholic and Protestant. Anglicanism is not particularly Protestant as compared to say Presbyterianism. I know a village with two seperate Baptist congegations. They each believe eachother to be completely wrong!

Also, most Christians around the world hold on, to various different levels, to pre-Christian traditions.


Does one need to be renumerated for one's sympathy?
Or is it the help bit that involves money changing hands?
I know some ecclesiastical people have been found to be dodgy, but...

I am talking about the human cost of misery and not strictly speaking about financial gain.

re: I taking te cost of sery and not spanking a boat of finncial ga

- And now the Orwellian oinker pretending-to-be-English is playing an expert on condoms and the Catholic Church in Poland! It can oink on any subject, you just name it, and with a new vigour due to its porky self-esteem having been lifted by the fact that Osiol is speaking (should we say braying? ;) seriously to it!

;)

Almost on topic, I see that:

"The head of the Catholic Church in Mozambique has told the BBC he believes some European-made condoms are infected with HIV deliberately.

Maputo Archbishop Francisco Chimoio claimed some anti-retroviral drugs were also infected "in order to finish quickly the African people"."

Well, that's a useful contribution. Here's the article:

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7014335.stm - Shock at archbishop condom claim.

Wow ! I hope it's just a big and stupid lie...how can we want to "finish" some kind of people after what happened 60 years ago...

HIV is a fragile virus that doesn't survive for long outside the human body. Even if someone were crazy enough to try to lace condoms with it, I doubt it could survive for long.

Here's hoping the Vatican will slap down Chimoio. But look on the bright side... at least the guy acknowledges that HIV causes AIDS, unlike the (non-Catholic) leader of another African country.

So you don't believe this story is true, do you ? ;)

I believe that Archbishop Chimoio's nonsense was accurately quoted.

ok ;)

A stupid and murderous statement that will cost the lives of people; when will these people learn that they serve the people and God, and not play God with people’s lives. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

To say the Europeans are doing this is paranoid and rascist. Everyone knows its the Jews!

it's not OBL? *shock* hehe

this is with regards to the original post..... i just want to know what ******* catholic church the students go to..sounds like bolox to me not once when i went to church was i shown some sex tape about disease...let alone a tape that shows sperm and sexual diseases penetrating through the pours of the condom....."quote" a film that was shown to her by her priest that showed sperm and sexual diseases penetrating through the pours of the condom..... where does one obtain a film with such detail.... hahaha... did it use cgi

hahahahaha......thats gotta be one of the funniest things i've seen in a long while....the music was amazing......hahahahaha

Wow - it takes talent to turn a condom education into a musical :P ROFL

If I may offer a correction here. Sex in a marriage is a good thing, and the Church teaches it has 2 (not one) purposes. 1. Procreation, as you mentioned. 2. To keep the marriage together, through the union of man and wife.

The use of any for, of artificial birth control (pill, condoms, etc.) is a sin in that a sexual union between a man and wife is an act of just not procreation, but co-Creation with God. Each time artificial birth control is used, the couple is in effect saying they are smarter than God, or are saying they are denying Him in His Creation.

As far as the main topic here, what the Church is teaching in condoms vs. STDs, is those using such may feel safe from STDs, when condoms are only 88% (about, forgot exact number) effective in stopping such, and not 100% as abstinence is.

Have a read of these. Using a condom is better than not.

condoms4life.org/facts/CondomsAndAIDS.htm

hivinsite.ucsf.edu/insite?page=ask-01-08-03

In other words, he blame the Catholic Church. Typical leftist lame logic… The church is against condoms at all, they "offer" you sexual abstinence till marriage. If man and woman follow this Catholic teaching then HIV/AIDS is hardly possible. If they don't then they cannot blame the church. It is hardly possible that somebody is so religious that reject condoms but in the same time he don't accept pre-marriage sexual abstinence.

Why wait till marriage ? If you love a girl, if you both take tests, then it's as safe (and a lot more funny) as abstinence till marriage :)

Somebody forcing you to wait? :)

So you are calling a Polish teenager leftist, Hmmmm....strange!!!

It is obvious that HIV incidence in Poland has become so tremendous due to catholic church.

What is so strange?


Exactly!

Make your mind up will you lesser, are you for the church or against?
Because you seem to be contradicting yourself here!!!

You have quoted two sarcastic comments and wonder what is about...

wow, what planet are you on lol

Suggest to the priests in Poland that they should give condoms to the people after the ceremony.

Earth, however the real question is about you? :)

Lovely Pulawy planet, nice and peaceful here :O) And I wish you the same :O)

Has anyone tried the chinese pre tested variety?

yes i think same , any way somthimes church acting somtimes like they have condoms on they heads if any one know what i mine:)