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Cigarette Smoking in Poland


z_darius  14 | 3960  
26 Jan 2008 /  #31
(never mind heart disease, cancer, respiratory disease, circulatory...)

The carcinogenic properties of nicotine in standalone form, separate from tobacco smoke, have not been evaluated by the IARC, and it has not been assigned to an official carcinogen group. The currently available literature indicates that nicotine, on its own, does not promote the development of cancer in healthy tissue and has no mutagenic properties

or phone 022 621 36 11 (Warsaw) for a 90% chance to quit???

Every smoker has 100% chance to quit, whether they call you or not ;)
As a matter of fact, every smoker WILL quit.
Kowalick  1 | 18  
26 Jan 2008 /  #32
my husband actually smokes just because he likes to... he doesnt have any form of an addiction to it... he just likes to do it. he doent mind the smell, he doesnt care what kind of cigarette it is... he just likes the act of smoking. he doesnt do it when he's frustrated or sad or mad or anything and he says he doesnt even feel any different after a cigarette... just likes the act of doing it.

it freakin pisses me off. i hate smoking, hate the smell, hate how i have to drive with my windows down in the f*cking cold so i can breathe while he smokes
joo who  - | 100  
27 Jan 2008 /  #33
Kill with a teaspoon?? Week one without a cigarette?? I could kill with just a look! Week 2 without a cigarette?? The battle is over! And you have no need to worry about being tempted to smoke again by your well-meaning friends...you don't have any friends left!

Seriously...physical withdrawal from nicotine is actually so slight it is almost indistinguishable from hunger! All the rest is pretty much psychological! And by the end of the third week, your body has made the minor adjustments needed for you to function without nicotine. The moodiness is only caused because nicotine takes over the sites in your brain's chemical message pathways usually occupied by seratonin and dopamine...you get a bit angry, then tearful, then angry, then tearful etc as your brain adjusts the levels of the natural chemicals it needs....(again, I,m a geology major, not a biologist, so don't grill me on this stuff!)... If you FULLY understand WHY you smoke....you will be able to stop easily ...please read the book? It's a kinda magic!! Or try one of his (money back guarantee!)clinics? Google Allen Carr for your nearest clinic....

You maybe like the smell of smoke? But remember your first ever cigarette?? It TASTED vile! Turned you green, left you giddy?? That's because it DOES taste vile! It's POISON...back to the insecticide!

That's me DONE on this subject....I'm sounding far too zealous!! But if I,m ever craving nicotine again...I shall head straight for those aubergines! (How do you light them??)
the_falkster  1 | 180  
27 Jan 2008 /  #34
my husband actually smokes just because he likes to... he doesnt have any form of an addiction to it... he just likes to do it. he doent mind the smell, he doesnt care what kind of cigarette it is... he just likes the act of smoking. he doesnt do it when he's frustrated or sad or mad or anything and he says he doesnt even feel any different after a cigarette... just likes the act of doing it.

no signs of addiction??? :D
try to hide his cigarettes and you'll see...

"i simply like smoking" is the typical cover up...
joo who  - | 100  
27 Jan 2008 /  #35
"i simply like smoking" is the typical cover up...

I like lobster, but I don't have to walk round with 20 of them in my pocket!!

The carcinogenic properties of nicotine ...etc

Cool just suck aubergines then!!...it's only the nicotine that any smoker is after...so throw away the fags! Nicotine itself may not cause cancer etc...but smoking does!!

Every smoker has 100% chance to quit, whether they call you or not ;)
As a matter of fact, every smoker WILL quit

That's not MY number...if you want MY phone number you got to send me a photo first...if you get through the good-looking radar...you get my number (few have made it thus far!)

Damn right every smoker will quit..100%...pretty hard to keep smoking in a hospital bed attached to an oxygen mask, or after your funeral!! EVERY smoker thinks it's hard to quit...anyone who needs a helping hand...just recommending some help for you..
z_darius  14 | 3960  
27 Jan 2008 /  #36
Nicotine itself may not cause cancer etc...but smoking does!!

In your prior post you wrote it was the nicotine.

Damn right every smoker will quit..100%...pretty hard to keep smoking in a hospital bed attached to an oxygen mask, or after your funeral!!

You're making me nervous. This is not good for quitting smoking. I think I'll have one ;)

Also, one may want to weigh the cons and pros of nicotine which, like everything in life, has it side effects - good and bad :)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine#Therapeutic_uses

Relatively few things in moderation will kill, but many of them in too large dozes can kill, including our friendly H2O.
isthatu  3 | 1164  
27 Jan 2008 /  #37
Google Allen Carr for your nearest clinic....

lol,this is the guy that died of lung cancer........
joo who  - | 100  
27 Jan 2008 /  #38
In your prior post you wrote it was the nicotine.

Are you being deliberately pedantic to detract from the FACT that nicotine, in the form that you choose to partake of it, is the West's number 1 killer?? Perhaps you would prefer to mainline it in its pure form if it's not dangerous...although I have been informed that if you inject the nicotine from just 1 cigarette it will kill you....I haven't tried this at home...one for Jackass TV??

Relatively few things in moderation will kill

How about russian roulette?? Wanna play?? Or mainlining nicotine?? Wanna be the guinea pig??

You're making me nervous

ISTHATU?? Do you smoke??? Allen Carr died of lung cancer 23 years after quitting his 100 a day habit because he was so passionate about helping other people (like me ..and you?) quit, that he spent 10 hours a day, 7 days a week surrounding himself with smokers! Roy Castle also died of lung cancer....heard of passive smoking??? Allen Carr has helped THOUSANDS of people quit...which probabaly cost him his life...greater love than this hath no man???? So i don't think LOL is appropriate....Do you??

SMOKING MAKES YOU NERVOUS...every time your pack is running low, or your mate asks for a fag, but you're down to your precious last 2...or every time you know you'll be in a situation where you will not be allowed to smoke...or every time you wake up and have to bump start your lungs before you get out of bed??

pros of nicotine

It takes a smaller dose of nicotine than of strychnine to kill a full grown rat...or MAN! ... wanna play?? ;0))
That's it...not saying a word more on it, cause as I knew just a couple of weeks ago, and as all smokers know, it IS russian roulette to continue smoking, there is absolutely NOTHING beneficial about breathing cancerous foul fumes into your lungs and ALL smokers wish they had never started....You can't Bullsh*t a bullsh*tter! Neither can I make you stop...you can choose to look into the Allen Carr thing...or not. But one choice you don't have right now is whether you light that next cigarette...you smoke it as an addict, not through choice!! Prove me wrong if you like...choose NOT to smoke it, and let me know how you get along with will power alone!! Wannaplay????! ;0)))))
Davey  13 | 388  
27 Jan 2008 /  #39
I like smoking.
I die when I die, I'm not afraid of death, it's a natural occurrence of life=).
For me, it's relaxing, gives me something to look forward to in the day, love the feeling of having one after meals...stressful moments....with alcohol....

It's enjoyable

joo who

Maybe if you smoked you wouldn't be so uptight.
hancock  1 | 95  
27 Jan 2008 /  #40
I have a question. does anybody know of or would there be such a thing as a forum that would give psycological advice?
osiol  55 | 3921  
27 Jan 2008 /  #41
passive smoking

As if no-one ever got lung cancer without there being cigarette smoke to blame.

a forum that would give psycological advice?

Have a cigarette - that'll sort you out.
PinkJewel  
27 Jan 2008 /  #42
Try telling a 95 year old woman who's smoked between 20 and 40 a day since she was 14 that smoking will kill them. (No it's not me btw)
hancock  1 | 95  
27 Jan 2008 /  #43
I am asking a genuine question. i am new to forums. about psychological advice maybe it isnt forums i should ask but some where else who could possible tell me. anyone know. I have a friend and he wont go anywhere just talks to me.
osiol  55 | 3921  
27 Jan 2008 /  #44
No it's not me btw

We all knew it wasn't you - you're 96 aren't you? Smoking since 13, if I'm not mistaken.
PinkJewel  
27 Jan 2008 /  #45
Spot on, just turned actually. I took me first draw on me 13th birthday.
hancock  1 | 95  
27 Jan 2008 /  #46
My dad smoked like a chimney drank a gallon of nicotine so that he would not be separateed from my mother.
osiol  55 | 3921  
27 Jan 2008 /  #47
Happy birthday, PinkJewel.
I used to see that a lot of old women had names like Pearl or Ruby, but I thought that generation was now gone.
Pink Jewel fits that perfectly.
PinkJewel  
27 Jan 2008 /  #48
No we're still here and going strong on PF. PinkJewel was me stage name...

My real name is Ruby Pearl Muggleton.

Just for the purposes of the thread, smoking is not something that bothers me. I'm still not convinced the smoking ban has done any good, especially in pubs. Passive smoking may kill me but so might getting hit by a bus or hit by a satellite falling to Earth...or even just old age...
osiol  55 | 3921  
27 Jan 2008 /  #49
especially in pubs

That now smell of food - that is bad when you can smell vinegar on chips or soup or roast that's just come out of a microwave. Or worse - they smell of sweat and farts.

or hit by a satellite falling to Earth

Just narrowly dodged a falling meteorite. That was a close one, but is that bus heading straight for me?
PinkJewel  
27 Jan 2008 /  #50
That now smell of food - that is bad when you can smell vinegar on chips or soup or roast that's just come out of a microwave. Or worse - they smell of sweat and farts.

I agree with that. Clubs are the worst. Isn't it just a great sight to be strolling past a pub or club in supposedly tourist parts of some towns/cities and outside there's twenty half drunk 20 year olds smoking cigarettes. Classy. I wonder what the statistics are for brawls outside nightclubs started by drunk people out having a smoke.

Just narrowly dodged a falling meteorite. That was a close one, but is that bus heading straight for me?

It's a dangerous world we live in...
isthatu  3 | 1164  
27 Jan 2008 /  #51
Allen Carr died of lung cancer

So i don't think LOL is appropriate....Do you??

Yes I do,as appropriate as a lol for Jim fix,the health freak jogger who died of a heart attack.....while jogging.
Sheeet,if youve worked with as many old folks with dementia maybe you 2 would have a rather prosaic attitude to these things.
hancock  1 | 95  
27 Jan 2008 /  #52
Happy birthday, PinkJewel. your right about about smells. I remember one time a while back i cant remember when but i past this place and it was selling doughnuts

and i would have died if i had to work ther.
isthatu  3 | 1164  
27 Jan 2008 /  #53
I have a question. does anybody know of or would there be such a thing as a forum that would give psycological advice?

Seek face to face help hancok,do not go looking for serious advice on an internet forum,you never know peoples motivations or intents.Speak to a health care proffesional.
AvJoeUK  
27 Jan 2008 /  #54
Dont smoke folks, It'll kill ya :P
osiol  55 | 3921  
27 Jan 2008 /  #55
It'll kill ya

It kills when you burn your fingers on the cigarette end. OUCH!
joo who  - | 100  
27 Jan 2008 /  #56
It's a dangerous world we live in...

but "wisdom preserves the life of its owner" (King Solomon)

That now smell of food

Best to keep smoking then...your sense of smell will be improved if you stop!

Maybe if you smoked you wouldn't be so uptight

I did...and I was much uptighter then! Especially when I ran out of Rizzlas! Not actually at all up tight now....just EXCITED cause I feel so free!! And I'm feeling all evangelical about it, so I'm sorry...but I just so want you all to know this freedom too...and I also thought I enjoyed smoking...so, sadly, I leave all you guys to your delusions, cause I can feel you don't want to listen right now......while I get on with CELEBRATING! Ho hum!

Yipee...I'm a non-smoker! Today I ran in the woods with my dogs...and i could breath!! Yeehaa....and I'm just so darn happy that I am no longer a slave to a drug!!

I spent YEARS with a fag in my mouth and my fingers in my ears and my head in the sand, hoping, just hoping, that I wouldn't be the one to get the cancer, emphysema, heart disease, that I would be neither the "blue bloater" nor the "pink puffer"....Oh, and because I was a smoker for YEARS ...I know that actually, while defending your addiction, you're actually a teensy weensy bit jealous of those who manage to break free...while also it gives you a glimmer of hope that you wont be trapped forever????

Tomorrow??? Tomorrow I'll run again......and I'll be able to kiss my man without cringing cause I smell like an ashtray, and I'll be able to sit right through that movie cause I don't need to pause while I go for a fag, and I'll be able to taste my food, and....Hallelujah, brother...I can wake up and SMELL the coffee!

And if I get hit by a bus tomorrow??? (or even a meteorite!) I'll still be glad I didn't die a slave.......
hancock  1 | 95  
27 Jan 2008 /  #57
isthatu i was simply asking if any one knew if there was any thing available via a computer. my friend and i say again with emphasis. my friend. has been to so many doctors that these people are driving him creazy. he has been like hthis for maybe 15 years but i have only seen him reacently they have no time only admit people to nut wards. point fingers at you if you sit in a funny position. 2 minutes later. obviosly sczichophenic thake these pills. he takes 50 cuts himself. well obviosely more nuts etc.
isthatu  3 | 1164  
27 Jan 2008 /  #58
Are you saying he self harms?
Has done for 15 years?
Ok,What you need to do is be a good listner.Im no expert,I did study basic psychology at collage but thats about the level you will expect on the net.

I have known may people similar to your freind,the best thing is that you seem to be there for him,no matter how feeble this may sound to people in his position this is a huge thing.

Sorry to say though,I still would say the best thing for your mate to do would be to see a profesional,go with him if he wants as support. Unfortunatly he may be labled "nuts" as you put it,but,if he does have an underlying condition the best thing for him is to have it diagnosed,with that some help will be forthcoming,without help,Im afraid you may be burying your friend rather than socialising with him.That may sound harsh,but,unfortunatly it is true. I know the healthcare road can be frustrating but,imho it is the only way to go to have any chance of leading afull life and fulfilling your mates potential.

All the best for both of you.
z_darius  14 | 3960  
27 Jan 2008 /  #59
Are you being deliberately pedantic to detract from the FACT that nicotine, in the form that you choose to partake of it, is the West's number 1 killer??

I can't answer the question that contains a false statement and is thus leading. Nicotine, in none of its forms, is nimber one killer anywehere in the world. The number one killler is time. Then there are heart diseases and various cardiovascular diseases. Some of the cases occur in smokers, all of them occur in eaters. Quit eating?

but you're down to your precious last 2...or every time you know you'll be in a situation where you will not be allowed to smoke...

No. I am never down the precious last 2. I plan ahead :)

or every time you wake up and have to bump start your lungs before you get out of bed??

What kind of savage idea is that? Smoking in bed? Do you realize that smoking in bed can cause fire and death?

Prove me wrong if you like...choose NOT to smoke it, and let me know how you get along with will power alone!!

I didn't start smoking to prove anything. If I quit smoking it won't be to prove anything either.

Now, speaking of will power - why don't you prove you have some too. Having given a lecture (some of it containing blatantly false information) let people make a choice, while you keep on not smoking.
hancock  1 | 95  
27 Jan 2008 /  #60
Isthatu I didnt respont to this one earlier but thanks its definately hard for him i know. he has wife troubles smack weed sex you name it. hes stayed with this women for years only because of his sick son. etc. what a life.

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