Hopefully :)
Are Polish People Racist?
Jeez, I'm glad this conversation was on line only. There would be noses bleeding, if the arguments were done face to face :) Ouch!
Oh, well. After all, this is the forum and people have the right to express their views. We're not here to agree on every subject. It would become very boring - quickly.
The name calling is not necessary, tough. Bi nice. It is a very sensitive subject.
Are polish people racist? Yes. Just like the French, British, American and others. No more, no less. I did not come across open racism in US, but there is plenty of it hidden behind nice smiles and politically correct behavior. It is not politically correct to admit that you are. Remember Mel Gibson drunken remarks?
Oh, well. After all, this is the forum and people have the right to express their views. We're not here to agree on every subject. It would become very boring - quickly.
The name calling is not necessary, tough. Bi nice. It is a very sensitive subject.
Are polish people racist? Yes. Just like the French, British, American and others. No more, no less. I did not come across open racism in US, but there is plenty of it hidden behind nice smiles and politically correct behavior. It is not politically correct to admit that you are. Remember Mel Gibson drunken remarks?
Kochana_Babcia 2 | 70
16 Dec 2006 / #423
I agree with Eurola, most people are racist to some extent. Many of us are afraid of the
unknown.
When I was a child we lived in Chicago in an area that had a lot of different nationalities.
My little brother's best friends were Chinese, they called my brother by his Polish name
not the American version. Everyone was nice to each other as we were all immigrants. We never had problems socializing with people of different color.
Years later my parents moved near Humbolt Park, the area was changing, had a mixture of Polish and Spanish families, everyone was nice to each other. But a few years after
living there our apartment was broken into, my Mom was sleeping when this happened
and the White Man held a knife to her throat and wanted all the valuable..LOL what valuables?? we didn't have much. My Mom went into shock, the man took the jewelry box that did have my Dad and Mom's nice jewelry. Thank God that he did not hurt my
Mom. During this whole ordeal my brother and his friends were sitting on the front stairs
and didn't know what was going on inside. By the time my Mom could get up from bed
and scream, the man was long gone and the Police never did find him. We moved shortly
afterwards because my Mom couldn't sleep in that apartment, she was constantly afraid
of every noise.
My parents bought a house in a real nice area. I had just graduated from High School and got my first job in Downtown Chicago. I didn't drive at the time and depended on
bus service. I had to take 3 buses to work, going there wasn't bad but coming home
at night was scary. But the evil lurked in our home area, a young white boy who would
try and grope me when I'd be walking home at night. I would freeze and could never
get a good look at him until one night I got a good look at this face and called the Police.
We searched the area but couldn't find him. One night as my boyfriend (my Hubby) and I were driving home, I spotted this boy with a group of other boys. We got out of the car
and approached these boys and asked this boy where he lived because we wanted to
talk to his parents and let them know what he has been doing. He took us to his home
and his Grandmother answered the door. She said that she was his guardian, I told her
want was happening and she grabbed a kitchen knife and threatened us. We ran out of there so fast, got home and called the Police to file a complaint against the boy and his
grandmother. The boy only got a warning because he was a minor and his grandmother
was mentally challenged.
So far all our encounters with bad people have been White people, but that was about
to change.
Shortly after I had our first daughter, my hubby at that time was a TV repairman (going to school to get his Engineering Degree). He worked in the Cabrini Green area in Chicago
one day he was approached by 3 black guys with guns, one guy got in our car, the other
two guys told my hubby to go behind a billboard sign, hubby knew that if he went there
he would die so he decided to fight for his life, during the fight the gun went off and the
guy in our car drove up and the other two guys jumped in and they drove off leaving my
hubby on the ground bleeding and badly hurt. Someone must have called the Police because shortly afterwards they arrived and rescued my hubby. They took him to the
hospital emergency room, he had broken ribs, broken hand and lots of bruises but
Thank God he was alive. Since then he hates ghetto blacks..who have nothing better to do then attack innocent people be it white or black people, doesn't make a difference to
low life.
I just want to also say that we have friends that are Mexican, Black and other nationalities. What counts is what kind of person you are not your race.
Sorry for the long read.
p.s. When I first met my hubby, my family was against me dating him because he is
Ukrainian/Polish. My family survived the Wolyn massacre, which I knew nothing about
but after getting to know him and his family they finally got used to the idea that I
would marry this guy. We've been married for 37 years and going strong.
unknown.
When I was a child we lived in Chicago in an area that had a lot of different nationalities.
My little brother's best friends were Chinese, they called my brother by his Polish name
not the American version. Everyone was nice to each other as we were all immigrants. We never had problems socializing with people of different color.
Years later my parents moved near Humbolt Park, the area was changing, had a mixture of Polish and Spanish families, everyone was nice to each other. But a few years after
living there our apartment was broken into, my Mom was sleeping when this happened
and the White Man held a knife to her throat and wanted all the valuable..LOL what valuables?? we didn't have much. My Mom went into shock, the man took the jewelry box that did have my Dad and Mom's nice jewelry. Thank God that he did not hurt my
Mom. During this whole ordeal my brother and his friends were sitting on the front stairs
and didn't know what was going on inside. By the time my Mom could get up from bed
and scream, the man was long gone and the Police never did find him. We moved shortly
afterwards because my Mom couldn't sleep in that apartment, she was constantly afraid
of every noise.
My parents bought a house in a real nice area. I had just graduated from High School and got my first job in Downtown Chicago. I didn't drive at the time and depended on
bus service. I had to take 3 buses to work, going there wasn't bad but coming home
at night was scary. But the evil lurked in our home area, a young white boy who would
try and grope me when I'd be walking home at night. I would freeze and could never
get a good look at him until one night I got a good look at this face and called the Police.
We searched the area but couldn't find him. One night as my boyfriend (my Hubby) and I were driving home, I spotted this boy with a group of other boys. We got out of the car
and approached these boys and asked this boy where he lived because we wanted to
talk to his parents and let them know what he has been doing. He took us to his home
and his Grandmother answered the door. She said that she was his guardian, I told her
want was happening and she grabbed a kitchen knife and threatened us. We ran out of there so fast, got home and called the Police to file a complaint against the boy and his
grandmother. The boy only got a warning because he was a minor and his grandmother
was mentally challenged.
So far all our encounters with bad people have been White people, but that was about
to change.
Shortly after I had our first daughter, my hubby at that time was a TV repairman (going to school to get his Engineering Degree). He worked in the Cabrini Green area in Chicago
one day he was approached by 3 black guys with guns, one guy got in our car, the other
two guys told my hubby to go behind a billboard sign, hubby knew that if he went there
he would die so he decided to fight for his life, during the fight the gun went off and the
guy in our car drove up and the other two guys jumped in and they drove off leaving my
hubby on the ground bleeding and badly hurt. Someone must have called the Police because shortly afterwards they arrived and rescued my hubby. They took him to the
hospital emergency room, he had broken ribs, broken hand and lots of bruises but
Thank God he was alive. Since then he hates ghetto blacks..who have nothing better to do then attack innocent people be it white or black people, doesn't make a difference to
low life.
I just want to also say that we have friends that are Mexican, Black and other nationalities. What counts is what kind of person you are not your race.
Sorry for the long read.
p.s. When I first met my hubby, my family was against me dating him because he is
Ukrainian/Polish. My family survived the Wolyn massacre, which I knew nothing about
but after getting to know him and his family they finally got used to the idea that I
would marry this guy. We've been married for 37 years and going strong.
Great input K_B. There is a voice of reason for everybody. We are as racist as our experiences are. None of us was born with racial/ethnic attitudes.
Just the other day I overheard a coworker saying: "Topinka, Blagojevich...what kind oflast names are they? Why does Illinois has to come with this kind of names?!"
(for the ones who don't know Judy Barr Topinka a IL state Treasurer and Rod Blagojevich is the state's governor). Was it a racist statement or what?
Just the other day I overheard a coworker saying: "Topinka, Blagojevich...what kind oflast names are they? Why does Illinois has to come with this kind of names?!"
(for the ones who don't know Judy Barr Topinka a IL state Treasurer and Rod Blagojevich is the state's governor). Was it a racist statement or what?
lol you should ask them "what is an american name" and you can bet your months salary they'll either say an English, Scotish or Irish name
america
17 Dec 2006 / #426
let's not forget who started slavery, with thier tall sailing ships
america,
Slavery pre-dates history.
Or are you talking about the Spanish.
Slavery pre-dates history.
Or are you talking about the Spanish.
Yes, I agree...unfortunately :) ...just kidding. That's the reality. lol.
America is still prejudiced after all centuries of "integration". Often forced by taking kids from their neighborhoods and drive them to other schools 1-2 hrs away to meet "quota".
Mind you, our BIG boss has "szcz" in the middle of his last name! I can't even imagine what this guy thinks at times, when he gets his ash chewed up!
America is still prejudiced after all centuries of "integration". Often forced by taking kids from their neighborhoods and drive them to other schools 1-2 hrs away to meet "quota".
Mind you, our BIG boss has "szcz" in the middle of his last name! I can't even imagine what this guy thinks at times, when he gets his ash chewed up!
YANTA
17 Dec 2006 / #429
These actions, for obvious reasons, did little to improve racism in Detroit. So, you cant balme everything on blacks or whites...it was a situation created by both.
A hilarious statement! And a piss poor excuse. So after whitey fled detroit in the riots of 1967 which had nothing to do with henry ford , also FYI henry ford was a a big time racist. Well the mayer ,police cheif ,etc are all black. Why does the city look even worse? While your at it explain why , st louis ,new york ,philly,washington dc,newmark ,chicago are all in ruins. Look at the population stats on all of these s-hole american cities. I know I know its all whiteys fault. Filthy whites always have to slap the black man down. Punish the white man they are the cause of all the chaos!!!
let's not forget who started slavery, with thier tall sailing ships
Lets not forget africans , jews and europeans are all guilty of slave trading ,etc. But you only ever hear of the white man doing it.
Get off your high horse........ Whitey :)
I'm done...you're just embarassing.
I'm done...you're just embarassing.
Jim
18 Dec 2006 / #431
A Yahoo search on race and racist shows that all races are racist . It included light colored blacks versus dark blacks. Blacks versus Mexicans. The list goes on.
It provided good information without the unneeded character bashing that is usually found on forums. People on this forum show signs of being racist by what they write about other groups of people that they do not like. Racism is everywhere and is not limited to Polish people.
It provided good information without the unneeded character bashing that is usually found on forums. People on this forum show signs of being racist by what they write about other groups of people that they do not like. Racism is everywhere and is not limited to Polish people.
Jacubus
18 Dec 2006 / #432
Get off your high horse........ Whitey
I'm done...you're just embarassing.
I'm done...you're just embarassing.
My friend I think you are the one who is embarassing .. please just run along your a loser with capital L
Narkommandant 2 | 37
20 Dec 2006 / #433
Awnser my question nimrod. Tell me why detroit looks the way it does today
Because of the downfall of the car industry and the fact that labour has now been moved into asia. Detroit is an industrial city that thrived as the home of the motor car industry in th US...when this went out the window...so did the livability if detroit.
You are a racist, ignorant, narrow minded, unintelligent, uninformed chuj.
Well the mayer ,police cheif ,etc are all black.
You are even more of a retard than i thought....i believe the word is actually spelled "Mayor", not mayer you fuktard. Also, it's Chief, not cheif. what a serious fuktard you are. Why don't you stop ******** about the "black man" and get your ass an education. You are obviously highly UNintelligent and have no place discussing your narrow minded views with the seemingly intelligent people on this forum. Go read a book or something......
Superman
20 Dec 2006 / #434
yanta just got owned by Narkommandant
My friend I think you are the one who is embarassing
Care to elaborate instead of puking nonsense and leaving? Usually intelligent people do this. Can you try?
Damn trolls.
You are obviously highly UNintelligent and have no place discussing your narrow minded views
Ahhh. maybe this is the same person as Jacubus.
keram
22 Dec 2006 / #436
You are all pathetic and looking for liberal versions of the real reason detroit looks today. You are all as ignorant as you call mr yenta here.
A quick google search:
According to the 2000 US census, 88% of Detroit's population is non-White. This percentage is even higher in the city center. Detroit qualifies as the most ruined city in the USA. In addition to massive White Flight, the non-White residents started the tradition - which has spread to other cities - of "Devil's Night". This is the habit or burning down parts of the city on the night before Halloween.
A huge non-White population, combined with annual arson attacks, bankruptcy, crime and decay, have combined to make Detroit - once the USA's leading automotive industrial center - into a ruin comparable with those of the ancient civilizations - with the cause being identical: the replacement of the White population who built the city, with a new non-White population.
the truth about detorit with pictures and info. So all of you shut the hell up. OPPSY can't post links. go look for yourselves rather then pointing blames and going into denial
Perhaps some one should do a grammer and spell check on you. muahahhahah NARKO and yenta are probibly the same person hahahhah 2 idiots.
A quick google search:
According to the 2000 US census, 88% of Detroit's population is non-White. This percentage is even higher in the city center. Detroit qualifies as the most ruined city in the USA. In addition to massive White Flight, the non-White residents started the tradition - which has spread to other cities - of "Devil's Night". This is the habit or burning down parts of the city on the night before Halloween.
A huge non-White population, combined with annual arson attacks, bankruptcy, crime and decay, have combined to make Detroit - once the USA's leading automotive industrial center - into a ruin comparable with those of the ancient civilizations - with the cause being identical: the replacement of the White population who built the city, with a new non-White population.
the truth about detorit with pictures and info. So all of you shut the hell up. OPPSY can't post links. go look for yourselves rather then pointing blames and going into denial
You are even more of a retard than i thought....i believe the word is actually spelled "Mayor", not mayer you fuktard. Also, it's Chief, not cheif. what a serious fuktard you are. Why don't you stop ******** about the "black man" and get your ass an education. You are obviously highly UNintelligent and have no place discussing your narrow minded views with the seemingly intelligent people on this forum. Go read a book or something......
Perhaps some one should do a grammer and spell check on you. muahahhahah NARKO and yenta are probibly the same person hahahhah 2 idiots.
Patrycja19 61 | 2679
23 Dec 2006 / #437
I live Near Detroit, seen the good and bad , its getting better in some parts
but, its true, there is alot of homes destroyed (burned) that are /were abandonded
and I dont hear it much anymore, but alot of drive by shootings, its good to not
see that on the news daily anymore, or carjacking, but I dont think Detroit is
most Ruined City in the USA, ive done searches and with all the crime, etc
it was Phili and then New York and Chicago, Detroit being on the list as like
number 29 or something, which did surprise me.
I should say was homes burned, I dont think this happens as much now, if it does
its not news anymore, there are groups which patrol on Devils night to keep this
under control without incident each year, so its getting better.
my dad (please dont take this literally) no offense to anyone as I try to explain.
but he hated *******, when I say that, what he meant by that word was a person
who is or has killed, stolen, raped, etc, anything they can take or get away with.
He had no problems with the Black community, but maybe something happened
which he didnt talk about that might have set him in this frame of mind against
those whom he referred to as *******. <~that word is a bad word here, and I
hate it, and it shouldnt be used against anyone who is African American just
because of their color. I know it was used during the Black movement towards
the Blacks communities, and the KKK <~whom I dispise and rank them up there
with hitler.
There is good and bad in all races, someone falls off the bandwagon and crys
I did it to feed my children (whom are living with the grandparents) and just
using excuses, yes, I think those would be the ones deserving of Idiot status in
my eyes, because it wasnt worth it in the end was it?
stealing from someone who works hard is to keep their home up, or doing it just
because its a gang thing to do, yep, go to jail and rot.
as for the ancient civilization stuff, Hahahahahaha, buildings are abandoned, but
that doesnt qualify for that status. I am sure there is plenty of abandoned
buildings in other places. but Detroit is still booming.
but, its true, there is alot of homes destroyed (burned) that are /were abandonded
and I dont hear it much anymore, but alot of drive by shootings, its good to not
see that on the news daily anymore, or carjacking, but I dont think Detroit is
most Ruined City in the USA, ive done searches and with all the crime, etc
it was Phili and then New York and Chicago, Detroit being on the list as like
number 29 or something, which did surprise me.
I should say was homes burned, I dont think this happens as much now, if it does
its not news anymore, there are groups which patrol on Devils night to keep this
under control without incident each year, so its getting better.
my dad (please dont take this literally) no offense to anyone as I try to explain.
but he hated *******, when I say that, what he meant by that word was a person
who is or has killed, stolen, raped, etc, anything they can take or get away with.
He had no problems with the Black community, but maybe something happened
which he didnt talk about that might have set him in this frame of mind against
those whom he referred to as *******. <~that word is a bad word here, and I
hate it, and it shouldnt be used against anyone who is African American just
because of their color. I know it was used during the Black movement towards
the Blacks communities, and the KKK <~whom I dispise and rank them up there
with hitler.
There is good and bad in all races, someone falls off the bandwagon and crys
I did it to feed my children (whom are living with the grandparents) and just
using excuses, yes, I think those would be the ones deserving of Idiot status in
my eyes, because it wasnt worth it in the end was it?
stealing from someone who works hard is to keep their home up, or doing it just
because its a gang thing to do, yep, go to jail and rot.
as for the ancient civilization stuff, Hahahahahaha, buildings are abandoned, but
that doesnt qualify for that status. I am sure there is plenty of abandoned
buildings in other places. but Detroit is still booming.
matek1
23 Dec 2006 / #438
that word is a bad word here, and I
hate it, and it shouldnt be used against anyone who is African American just
because of their color.
hate it, and it shouldnt be used against anyone who is African American just
because of their color.
What makes them african american? I would say over 80% of the blacks in the USA have never been to africa nor have they seen it person. They are americans not african americans. In fact if blacks here where to goto african and try to pass themselves off as africans. Well I wont go into detail about it but it wouldent be plesant. As for the "N" word if its such a horrible word they shouldent be calling each other it. I use the word almost daily with no problems.
but Detroit is still booming.
WAS THAT THE JOKE OF THE DAY LMAO good one! hehehhehehehhehe
Patrycja19 61 | 2679
24 Dec 2006 / #439
u know, Im not a rude person, so if I am told by several that they want or rather
be called that, I respect that, sometimes I use it in my wording to not offend.
and yes, they might not have went to africa, or ever will go their, but as I refer
to myself as Polish American, or American with Polish Background , they like the
more respectable term. least those whom I have talked with. and do become
offended by the mention of Word Black , as some do the N word. I dont use it daily
as I dont need or have any desire to run off at the mouth to others much less
call names. I was telling a story, but apparently storys can be taken wrong.
as for quoting me on it, why would you even say they are not African Americans
when they will even tell you their Ancestors and heritage are from Africa, and
they want to be called that?
Let me tell you, if someone says it, it isnt a job to be respectable towards them
who am I to Question ones culture? and there is alot of Their Culture in the
city, which doesnt come from "some american culture" which isnt a culture.
I give up, I truley do. its a no brainer that America is multinational and still people
say it.
I guess after you leave Europe, you become non existent to your country.
in my eyes, I would be proud that people would want to still have this as
part of their lives.
no your the joke of the day, and why dont you join as a member Mr Joke?
be called that, I respect that, sometimes I use it in my wording to not offend.
and yes, they might not have went to africa, or ever will go their, but as I refer
to myself as Polish American, or American with Polish Background , they like the
more respectable term. least those whom I have talked with. and do become
offended by the mention of Word Black , as some do the N word. I dont use it daily
as I dont need or have any desire to run off at the mouth to others much less
call names. I was telling a story, but apparently storys can be taken wrong.
as for quoting me on it, why would you even say they are not African Americans
when they will even tell you their Ancestors and heritage are from Africa, and
they want to be called that?
Let me tell you, if someone says it, it isnt a job to be respectable towards them
who am I to Question ones culture? and there is alot of Their Culture in the
city, which doesnt come from "some american culture" which isnt a culture.
I give up, I truley do. its a no brainer that America is multinational and still people
say it.
I guess after you leave Europe, you become non existent to your country.
in my eyes, I would be proud that people would want to still have this as
part of their lives.
WAS THAT THE JOKE OF THE DAY LMAO good one! hehehhehehehhehe
no your the joke of the day, and why dont you join as a member Mr Joke?
nanou
28 Dec 2006 / #440
So why are Polish people so racist?
Define racist...first.......
Then check for previous history/traits of rascism...what,when,why.....re all the details...
Then look for present day attitudes...do a relevant survey, ask the right questions off the right people for the right reason.....
At the end of it, you may have yet more questions re your above question!!
It appears the evidence gathered so far...is anecdotal...or worse, someone elses!
Polish people don't appear to be currently, any more racist than any other people in the world.....ergo the whole world is found to be racist...to a greater or lesser degree depending on the individual questioned!!!
Result!
Then check for previous history/traits of rascism...what,when,why.....re all the details...
Then look for present day attitudes...do a relevant survey, ask the right questions off the right people for the right reason.....
At the end of it, you may have yet more questions re your above question!!
It appears the evidence gathered so far...is anecdotal...or worse, someone elses!
Polish people don't appear to be currently, any more racist than any other people in the world.....ergo the whole world is found to be racist...to a greater or lesser degree depending on the individual questioned!!!
Result!
casper
28 Dec 2006 / #442
And one that sage davice please can we close this thread.
Amazing !
This thread started in April and the original question was answered on the first page.
This thread started in April and the original question was answered on the first page.
.......eeeemmmm....has it...really...............W....not so sure......
Frank,
Be sure. :) I answered it with post number 4. But you knew that. Hell, lets drag it out a bit longer. :)
Be sure. :) I answered it with post number 4. But you knew that. Hell, lets drag it out a bit longer. :)
And it's still going strong! A few hi-jacks here and there, but always gets back on track. Amazing.
m,
I've found that when Polish people are speaking in English they are not aware of words and phrases that are 'politically correct'. This means that they might sound offensive, but they are only using the language they know.
If it is people speaking in Polish I don't know what is going on. I've never noticed that many 'agressive views'.
I've found that when Polish people are speaking in English they are not aware of words and phrases that are 'politically correct'. This means that they might sound offensive, but they are only using the language they know.
If it is people speaking in Polish I don't know what is going on. I've never noticed that many 'agressive views'.
Not quite.........W......you've addressed their means of expressing themselves......not actually WHY....they are allegedly racist....saying or believing things are exactly wholly racist...in our part of the world....we like the physical means of showing you are racist/bigoted.......burning people out of their homes, ensuring those considered lesser than you don't get a job/a chance etc......saying something rascist is only a small part of it....granted still not accepted....
Need more depth, analysis......concrete evidence....
Frank,
Point taken. May the thread continue.
Point taken. May the thread continue.
To give it a fresher look....Why are the Polish people , allegedly so racist.?
There remains some considerable doubt, that this thread.....was too absolute in its initial statement...needs to be challenged!!
Fence sitters...need not comment....:)
There remains some considerable doubt, that this thread.....was too absolute in its initial statement...needs to be challenged!!
Fence sitters...need not comment....:)
Before I add more I think page 1 needs re-reading. I feel that there are some answers there.