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How Fast is the Polish Legal System?


Harry  
4 Aug 2009 /  #31
Gotta love the EU.

It's not EU, it's Schengen. Not all EU members are part of the Schengen area and not all members of the Schengen area are members of the EU.

He does like his name calling ive noticed, always a good sign that somebody is loosing an argument.

Even if he had any intellectual or debating skills at all, he never has facts to support his position. The only thing he can do is call people names! It would be sad but as it's him, it's amusing. Very much like him hating Poland and all things Polish so much but still being unable to leave. Just another fat Yank who failed at home and has now failed in Poland!
Wroclaw Boy  
4 Aug 2009 /  #32
and not all members of the EU are members of the Schengin.

what like Norway, Iceland and Switzerland? Shut up you dick you know what i meant, the Schengin agreement was bought about by the EU, yes or no?
mvefa 5 | 591  
4 Aug 2009 /  #33
Hello lowfunk99

Best thing for you would be to contact their consulate in your country or such. I dont think you will find much answers here. So far the answers you've gotten in this forum are from British or Americans, so not really 100% certain.

Good luck!
Harry  
4 Aug 2009 /  #34
the Schengin agreement was bought about by the EU, yes or no?

No. It was not. Which explains why only five of the countries which were then members of the EU signed the first Schengen agreement. Hence its name: "The 1985 Agreement between the Governments of the States of the Benelux Economic Union, the Federal Republic of Germany and the French Republic on the gradual abolition of checks at common borders". And the name of Schengen II: "The 1990 Convention implementing the Schengen Agreement of 14 June 1985 between the Governments of the States of the Benelux Economic Union, the Federal Republic of Germany and the French Republic on the gradual abolition of checks at common borders".
PlasticPole 7 | 2,648  
4 Aug 2009 /  #35
Yeah but there's all kinds of bad behaviour everywhere. TJ, you are stereotyping people when you use the collective phrase "The Poles".
z_darius 14 | 3,964  
4 Aug 2009 /  #36
The words "legal system" and "fast" do not go well together in any country.
Harry  
4 Aug 2009 /  #37
The lies about the immigration rules etc that are perpetuated here are also particularly disturbing. I wonder how many people have been screwed over because they listened to Brits or Poles here claim how things are done for Yanks and followed this advice?

Alternatively, those people could check the information given at the embassy their own country maintains in Poland

Persons admitted to the Schengen area for tourism or business may stay for a maximum of 90 consecutive days within a 6 month period. They may enter and leave the Schengen area multiple times provided that the total number of days spent within the Schengen area does not exceed 90 days within the 6 month period.
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Persons seeking to work, study or reside in Poland and the Schengen area for longer than 90 days should apply for a residence permit.

poland.usembassy.gov/poland/general_information_acs/poland-to-schengen-area

Much easier to blame "Poles" than to blame one's own stupidity, as you prove many times every day.
z_darius 14 | 3,964  
4 Aug 2009 /  #38
If I were to ask about a country's immigration policies, tricks and tips, I would never ask a native of that country, but rather a recent immigrant.
tj123 - | 85  
4 Aug 2009 /  #39
Agreed....nor would I ask a bitter old brit who has been here for ages and has no clue and likes to quote from rules and regs that are not followed consistently. Since he has never been inside the American embassy and heard what they have to say when you ask for direction on this issue he can't know much. I am amused at people who believe everything they see written down...I have an advertisement for a bridge on the moon for you to check out. It's all proper...formatted according to regulations..what could go wrong? ;)
Harry  
4 Aug 2009 /  #40
Since he has never been inside the American embassy and heard what they have to say when you ask for direction on this issue he can't know much.

I know the Salty Dawg very well thank you.

As for what the American embassy have to say about the issue of getting a residency permit:

If certain Americans can not follow this very simple advice, that is their look-out.
sledz 23 | 2,248  
5 Aug 2009 /  #41
If certain Americans can not follow this very simple advice, that is their look-out.

I totally understand this and when I go to Poland, Ill only be there 2 weeks. Im not looking for a job or planning on staying.

What is the history of most Poles that come to the USA on a visa?
A large percentage of them dont go back, and people wonder why we dont hand out visas to them like candy?

Ive met a few Brits while they were here on vacation (holiday) this summer and they didnt have any tough visa restrictions?
Of course they were all planning on returning home:)

As for my fellow American that got the boot from Poland, it seems he didnt follow the proper procedures either...

My empathy.. are we supposed to feel sorry for him?
tj123 - | 85  
5 Aug 2009 /  #42
My empathy.. are we supposed to feel sorry for him?

Depends on if you are a dick or not. He WAS trying to follow the proper procedure but he was led astray by people he was supposed to be able to count on.

As for me...I will have empathy for Lowfunk....he was trying. The system here is so ridiculously inconsistent and dishonest I will give him credit for that.

I know the resident scumbags will be along shortly to rip on lowfunk and kick him while he is down. Reciting rules that are either out of date, out of context, or ignored randomly by the officials. But pissing on suffering people for kicks seems to be accepted here.
Harry  
5 Aug 2009 /  #43
He WAS trying to follow the proper procedure but he was led astray by people he was supposed to be able to count on.

If he was trying to follow the proper procedure, why wasn't he doing what his own embassy advised him to do? Why did he blindly follow advice that was given by a single source of information (who had a vested interest in him staying in the country) over the advice of multiple other sources (who did not)

The system here is so ridiculously inconsistent and dishonest

You love to say that but you have never given even so much as a single example of any inconsistency or dishonesty. Could that be because you are lying?

Reciting rules that are either out of date, out of context, or ignored randomly by the officials.

The only person here who has been reciting a rule that is out of date is lowfunk: visa runs every 90 days do not work anymore! And when it comes to rules that are randomly by the officials, the only one we've heard about is letting people back into the Schengen zone when they should be told that they must wait another 90 days before crossing the border.

But ****ing on suffering people for kicks seems to be accepted here.

We are trying to prevent there from being another person who gets deported for not following visa rules. You are just using this thread as an opportunity to **** on Poland and all things Polish because you failed miserably in Poland.
tj123 - | 85  
5 Aug 2009 /  #44
And right on schedule!

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