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Assalamou Alaikum. 1 year old child passport problems


a1makji  
9 Aug 2007 /  #1
halo i am a single father of a 1 year old child i am a british citizen my child was bourn in england. his mother was polish she came to england to start a new life we migrated to pakistan she went her own way and before the jokes i dont live in a mud hut or drive a camal.

the child was only registered in the brithish birth register father british mother polish we was not leagaly marrid registered

all the men that are going crazy over polish women and the polish women falling head over heels wen they see a tall dark thin and handsome male like me whith long curly hair and a lil stubble ;) that they think will make a nice pet think again my perents was from differerent countris so where hers so was we need i say more! go whith your own if you want a simple stright forward life or every body just ends up confused i still aint shure what country or culture i belong to make it 3 possibly 4 im a alian whith green ears.

we broght our son over to pakistan on a pakistani passport due to a family emergeny its the only passport he has ever held

how do i take him back to the the fastest and best way

any advice help is much appreciated

exept each other tottaly for who you really are and dont try to change each other understand the culture the race the religions b4 looking at each others pretty faces think whith your heads not your hearts everybody ends up lossing somthing when things go bad.

Allah Hafiz hai, my Sallams
Karima 3 | 50  
9 Aug 2007 /  #2
Imnot sure iunderstand u good because of my crazy english but, if u took marry in england and baby was born in england in certificate of birt has write parents"englisha nd polish,now this baby live in poland u havent big chance to take baby aut UE withut permition his mother , of cours everything depend are u steel with her ,u are divorced.. i wilmust know more thinkgds.. always the best solution is talk with mother baby ..

write more iwil try help..
Bslama
OP a1makji  
9 Aug 2007 /  #3
we used to live in england
i am a british bourn citizen = britsh passport
the mother was a polish bourn citizen = polish passport
the child was bourn in england registered in england thoght he only has a pakistani passport i was unable to make him any other passport in the time span i had my father was supposed to be in hospital on a oxygen tank supossadly breathing his last thank Allah he still alive so we all came hear to pakistan i can go back no problem can take father back no problem child has no papers for re-entry into england thoght he was bourn and spent his 1st few months in england

me the child and his mother come to pakistan whith the child we was not legally marrid the childs mother left i called her back she left again i would like to take child back to england as i have a house there better life and oppourtunitis for my child there winter is going to set in Ramzaan is fast approchin Eid muslim festivil is round the corner my 90 year old fathers health is detiororating i have been trying four six months to take him back i aint willing to leave him hear i cant live whitout him my little angel

Allah i htuk
Karima 3 | 50  
9 Aug 2007 /  #4
my little angel

hmm , however ;)

again i will repeat that im not sure i understand u good , so sorry for eventually problems..
I understand u took muslim marriage with ur polish wife? if that is, in european low this mariage is not leggaly mean only one perosn who can decide abaut baby is his mother, that mean if she want go aut from any cauntry with baby she can, but u r his father even if in european low u r wihut marry in certificate of birth is ur name so u too have right to baby , u can fight with her or in judge and for sure uwillnot get chance to taker small baby to Pakistan or even take aut UE (withut her permistion and she wilnot give this permition on 100% ) u can fight to visit him, to meet him to take him on holidays..

Of coue always the best solution is when parents lave togther or if they cant , they can find good solution for good baby.. but this is life

I wish u everything will finish good ..
OP a1makji  
13 Aug 2007 /  #5
thank you karima i understand what you mean our nikka has no relevance in eu law (muslim marrige)

the child is in pakistan whith me

his mother left us in pakistan me baby and his mama came hear toghther
now just me and baby left hear i want to take him back to england or some other eu country whith me

i been trying for six mounths aint really got far i need a miricale InshAllah Ameen
Amathyst 19 | 2,702  
13 Aug 2007 /  #6
Okay for one, I dont understand why you took the child on a pakistani passport, you have a british birth certificate your wife a Polish one, you have a British Passport your wife a Polish one, as for emergency, I got my last passport in a day and in fact the one before that I got in a day - easy - go to the passport office pay over the top and you get it so I have no idea why a baby was give a pakistani passport with no pakistani documents unless your fausified them in which case you reep what you sew...something not adding up for me.
espana 17 | 937  
13 Aug 2007 /  #7
thank Allah

did you mean jesus........no?
osiol 55 | 3,922  
13 Aug 2007 /  #8
I got my last passport in a day

Me too.

pay over the top

£180 + the cost of photographs.

But you can do it by post. It takes longer, but for a lot less money.

A British passport would have been a better idea. Have you tried the Citizens Advice Bureau?
magda09 1 | 54  
13 Aug 2007 /  #9
he seem either too old, too ill, or just too fake :)
Amathyst 19 | 2,702  
13 Aug 2007 /  #10
£180 + the cost of photographs.

blimey, I got my in 2005 and including photos it was only £120 if that to be honest :(

A British passport would have been a better idea. Have you tried the Citizens Advice Bureau?

He's in pakistant, so it might be a bit difficult <doh> I think he took his son out of the country ilegally to be honest
OP a1makji  
16 Aug 2007 /  #11
how ever we took my son out is not the issue i tred to apply for a british passport they said i could not have one becuse me and the mother was not marrid we never registered the child whith the polish embassy when he was bourn just made things worse. thoght as for reaping what you sow i had the option of takeing my partner and son over to pakistan or leaveing them where they was alone whith no family we came hear for 10 12 years migrated basicaly to start a better life more relaxed no work no stress put your feet up and drink green tea all day whach your child grow up and play whithout worrying bout the tax man or the bank manager or someone asking you to work for them and geting payed a month later not to mention the looks what they doing togher i took my son to a hospital in englad when he was a week old a 2 in the night cuss he had a runny nose and it was blocking his breething the woman behind the dest at the A&E looked at me like what the hell you doing whith a white woman she was more conserned about ower interratiol relationship then the problem faceing our child i never said anything dident wanna make a scene or get trown out stayed quite for the sake of my son least it aint like that down hear children are a gift from God no matther what race color creed or background they from who ever got one will understand
Kilkline 1 | 689  
16 Aug 2007 /  #12
Yes, Pakistan is nation that us Brits can learn much from especially in the areas of tolerance and paediatric care.

Best stay put mate.
Janey - | 30  
16 Aug 2007 /  #13
Only thing I can suggest is if the child has a British birth certificate go to the British Embassy if your are still in Pakistan and explain to them. ..Sounds as though he may be entitled to a British Passport in his own right, but urge you to check with Embassy first they should be able to help you.

Good luck.

P.s.Everyone gets hurt by love from time to time, its part of being human. Heart always seems to be stronger than your head.
Amathyst 19 | 2,702  
16 Aug 2007 /  #14
Yes, Pakistan is nation that us Brits can learn much from especially in the areas of tolerance and paediatric care.
Best stay put mate.

ROFL!

Criminal!!! Baby snatcher!!!
OP a1makji  
19 Aug 2007 /  #15
i wouldent be takeing the baby back to the counytry if i was a baby snacher and getting the embassy and the home office involved to get him some sort of document to get him back in to the uk i could leave him hear and theres nothing any goverment in the world can do about it one of the advantages of being a multiple natniol :)

haveing a british birth cirtificate dos not give a child right to claim natniolaty in englang just means his nutralised in the country he was bourn in if the child was bourn after 1st june 2006 he would have the same rights as he got from his mother she was polish he is tecnicaly polish in the goverments eys childen bourn no non leagally marrid couples in the uk after 1sy june 2006 both perents will have equal rights as mother or father will be able to claim natniolaty from there respective sides.
espana 17 | 937  
19 Aug 2007 /  #16
or father will be able to claim natniolaty from there respective sides.

and you win using you child in the end ....disgusting!!!!
OP a1makji  
19 Aug 2007 /  #17
Not that im using my child for anything thoght its time men got some recodnition in the law regarding there kids take germany for example if a german woman decides to take her child out of the country and in to germany once the child is there theres hardly anything that the father can do about it same whith india all rights go to the mother what bout the father sholdent they both have equal rights women always scream kidnapper criminal ect ect ect thoght why dont they ever step back and think that the person they learn to hate so much is the childs father at the end of the day
espana 17 | 937  
19 Aug 2007 /  #18
well if you are muslim i m sure the women will be right in do that . (for once)
Amathyst 19 | 2,702  
22 Aug 2007 /  #19
haveing a british birth cirtificate dos not give a child right to claim natniolaty

it gives him the right to a British passport!

it gives him the rights all other British people have

wouldent be takeing the baby back to the counytry if i was a baby snacher and getting the embassy and the home office involved to get him some sort of document to get him back in to the uk

ROFL - you actualy think I believe that you are going to visit any of those places - you have committed a crime a very serious one at that, taking a child out of the country on false documents, not good, I very much doubt the Polish embassy will be happy when they find out same with the English Emabassy, not to mention the Pakistani Emabassy, but then again your country is corrupt so they probably wouldnt care less!!!!!!!
westvillage 1 | 6  
22 Aug 2007 /  #20
ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/applying/nationality/advice/bn1

6. Will a child who is born in the United Kingdom on or after 1 January 1983 have a right to become a British citizen if neither parent is a British citizen or settled in the United Kingdom when the child is born?

Yes -

(a) If one of the parents becomes a British citizen or becomes settled (see Note 5) in the United Kingdom and an application for registration is made before the child is 18; or

(b) If the child lives in the United Kingdom for the first 10 years of his or her life, and is not absent more than 90 days in any one of those years; or

(c) If the child is a British overseas territories citizen (see Note 3), a British Overseas citizen, a British subject under the 1981 Act, a British protected person or a British National (Overseas), and he or she lives legally in the United Kingdom for 5 years; or

(d) If the child has always been stateless and lives in the United Kingdom for a period of 5 years before his or her 22nd birthday.

If the child is not entitled to registration, he or she may still be registered as a British citizen if the Home Secretary agrees.

OP a1makji  
26 Aug 2007 /  #21
No it dos not give him the right to a british passport it gives him the right to british abode it gives him the right to a polish passport thoght not that ive applied for one or thinking of going to apply for one i broght my child to this county being a natniol of pakistan holding dual natniolity gives me more rights over my child then i had in england thers nothing the british or polish goverment can do if i decided to stay hear whith my child for the rest of my life whats so good about liveing in england or poland anyway? pounds an zoloty. same any where in the world mony talks hear my childs happy thats all i care about and if you want to talk bout corruption what all the polish men doing pimping young polskie women and girls in england enrolling them into strip clubs and selling them to onion pickers back in england and why is it you can buy a polish passport on the black market for about 500 pounds wanna talk about corruption look at your own county first.

well if you are muslim i m sure the women will be right in do that . (for once)

you shold have frased that thank Allah im a muslim so is my child good for both of you. dont see cristianity doing anything to bring world peace or promoting the importance of family values ect insted its floted on the stock market idiota promoting sex drugs and alcoholism
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
29 Aug 2007 /  #22
Oh right so you didnt say in one of your posts "I can offer my child a better life in Europe" ??????? You are also making it clear that you took him to Pakistan to get him out of Europe because you have more rights over him???

As for rights you have none, you took a child out of the UK illegaly - false documents, this amounts to kidnapping - that child has a mother and I dont believe for one minute that she left her child behind willingly or even actualy went to Pakistan with you - and there are laws against this!!!!!

you shold have frased that thank Allah im a muslim so is my child good for both of you. dont see cristianity doing anything to bring world peace or promoting the importance of family values

Oh right so stoning women and forcing marriages on women is a good thing??? All muslims are about is fighting, it mentions it plenty in your sh$ty fake bible all Pakistanis can do is go around suicide bombing in the name of that fake prophet Allah!!!!!
Ranj 21 | 948  
2 Sep 2007 /  #23
a1makji

In one post you are saying you want to take your child back to UK to offer him a better, comfortable life and in your last post, you basically say, screw the UK.....which is it? Do you want to take your child back to the UK or not?
girly  
6 Sep 2007 /  #24
salama bro! as long as your son was born in the uk he is a citizen of the country,u should go to the british consulate in ur coutry and explain to them wat happend.u should have a prove of his birth certificate ri ght there they will issue u a emergency passport if u need to go back urgently...

ps if u took ur son out of the counry witout his mother u will be in trouble.. just be honest wit the consulate.

best of luck
plk123 8 | 4,148  
6 Sep 2007 /  #25
ma'salaam. so you're saying the camel drives you? is that right?

welcome to PF
OP a1makji  
7 Sep 2007 /  #26
girly,plk123 walikum sallams i went to the embassy after 6 months i got my reply

whith referance to the above application and to our conversation of 15th august 2007 as you are aware by the provisions of the british nationality act 1981 your son unfortunatly has no automatic claim to british nationality by decent from you as his father.

neiter i am afraid does your son qualify by virtue of his birth in the united kingdom since 1st january 1983 any child born in the united kingdom must be to a british citizen or setteled perent meaning no imigration restrictions sometimes known as indeffinate leave to remain.

this was the final letter from the british high commision whch has closed the matter i also wrote to the home office in england they just told the british embassy in islamabad that there hand was tied and there is notthing that they can do i dont get it how the hell dos the home office issue 10.000 frudalant passports to fradsters yet a child who is born whith all the evidence ie birth cirtificate from birmingham registry office antiatal records from handswort wood medical centre and city road hospital photos from all over england ect ect get declined even an emergency passport just to get him back to the country one trip i went to the polish embassy they couldent speak english so they sent the gardeners forman to chat to me in urdu man goes apply for a pakistani passport then a visa im like he has claim to polish natniolaty trogh decent his like whatever closed the door in my face the ****

ranj i spent a lot of time in the uk lived chilled clubbed got involved whith the good the bad the racist and the ugly the countrys ok thoght not the best place to bring up your kid if you got options i wold have stayed hear if the childs mother was hear thoght she had different idias? there more to the world then england go to any british embassy or consulate abrourd ant atleast 2000 people are waiting to come to england what for whats the appeal??? the comman pound! nothing else thoght the country has a good structure for the comman man in pakistan iz who you know or what your willing to pay no body will even chat to you whith a stright face unless you are the son of a brigadeer
Kilkline 1 | 689  
7 Sep 2007 /  #27
"salama bro! as long as your son was born in the uk he is a citizen of the country"

Not true. That gravy train has ended thank god. Even if you are a citizen of the EU your children do not automatically get British citizenship just from being born here. This may also be partly a consequence of the massive numbers of Poles coming to Britain as I know this has caused a greater restriction on visa approvals. Basically, because of all the Poles we cannot let in any of our third world brothers and sisters.

Not a bad deal really.
Maxxx_Payne_g  
10 Sep 2007 /  #28
you shold have frased that thank Allah im a muslim so is my child good for both of you. dont see cristianity doing anything to bring world peace or promoting the importance of family values ect insted its floted on the stock market idiota promoting sex drugs and alcoholism

Yeah right, christianity is responsible for drugs and alcoholism :rolleyes:

funny thing is, if i said the same thing about islam, muslims and liberal PC crowd would be screaming "rascist !!11!!"
Kilkline 1 | 689  
10 Sep 2007 /  #29
Exactly. I dont consider myself a Christian but I am an alcoholic.
OP a1makji  
11 Sep 2007 /  #30
exactly in the same way islam is NOT responsible for irisponsible behavior from irrisponsible people.

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