Uuuf
12 Oct 2006 / #31
I would say - it feels sort of privincial in Wroclaw or Gdansk (compared to the other Euro cities).
It's Official: Poland Takes Silver regarding Investment Abroad
OP Hobbitual
12 Oct 2006 / #32
Then what? Visiting blocks of apartments outside the main square........ or foreign shopping centres?
Polish people in general have to get more creative and embody the idea of following dreams. Such a "can do" attitude is most prevalent in USA.
I accept that so many years under communist rule has probably damaged the aspirations of Polish citizens, but somehow you have to create new opportunities that attract attention of other creative/entrepreneurial people. This is how wealth is built, good or bad.
Uuuf
12 Oct 2006 / #33
IMHO, Poland is taking too much too fast from the western standards. They think -- in the US one square foot costs $5000, why not in Poland? Such thinking really kills the average Polish Joe and his family.
Many real estate prices are unreal. They ask for prices as if they were not intrested if the property is to be sold or not and to me it looks rather like waiting for a fool to buy. Often people still live in the property they offer for sale so it's a bit like asking for $1 000 for your own shirt. If you find a fool you'll take it off and sell it.
Uuuf
12 Oct 2006 / #35
They ask for prices as if they were not intrested if the property is to be sold or not and to me it looks rather like waiting for a fool to buy.
DITTO. They are beating the real estate bubble. And such information like from the article - which I'm sure has been widely featured in the Polish news media, makes it even worse. Poles haven't experienced the real crash market yet, but it's just a matter of time.
Poland needs more artists and more popular understanding of legal system we live in.
Avarage guy from KO£O dreams only about moving to KUTNO and the one from KUTNO dreams about living one day in POZNAŃ - it's kind of sad how low many aim.
Avarage guy from KO£O dreams only about moving to KUTNO and the one from KUTNO dreams about living one day in POZNAŃ - it's kind of sad how low many aim.
Poland needs more artists
Geeee.... I'm an artist.....
Poles haven't experienced the real crash market yet, but it's just a matter of time.
I like your imput Uuuf, there is a real estate cycle, in poland it is up, beware when it comes down, there will be people jumping off buildings...mmmm.
I must say Krakow is the pick of the pick, I agree that you don't see much once you leave the city...
One place which I also really like is the south of poland near the czech boarder..
spiritus
13 Oct 2006 / #39
Uuuf,
Just because a city is big doesn't make it attractive. Have you ever visited Birmingham or Manchester ? Would you want to spend a weekend there ?
Amsterdam and Prague are not metropolises but are very popular with tourists because of their charm.
As for Krakow, there is so much more than the main square.
Wawel Castle and Cathedral
Kazimierz-The Jewish Quarter
Da Vinci's "Lady with Ermine"
Giant Burial Mounds
Jagiellonian University
The Royal Route
And not so far away is Auscwitz Birkenau and Wieliczka Salt Mines
I have to say that I don't see your point.
Just because a city is big doesn't make it attractive. Have you ever visited Birmingham or Manchester ? Would you want to spend a weekend there ?
Amsterdam and Prague are not metropolises but are very popular with tourists because of their charm.
As for Krakow, there is so much more than the main square.
Wawel Castle and Cathedral
Kazimierz-The Jewish Quarter
Da Vinci's "Lady with Ermine"
Giant Burial Mounds
Jagiellonian University
The Royal Route
And not so far away is Auscwitz Birkenau and Wieliczka Salt Mines
I have to say that I don't see your point.
OK, the main square, but what else? You can basically walk around the main attractions in a couple of hours... Then what? Visiting blocks of apartments outside the main square........ or foreign shopping centres?
I could say the same about Paris- What is in the outskirts.....block of flats, flats.....and quite rough there.
I
have been living in England for about 4.5 years and now each time I go to Krakow,Poland I feel a little more....maybe not alienated but everything in Poland is changing and as I live abroad you miss it, don't notice. I think Krakow is pretty and full of charm it was like this and will be this.
It is becoming better and better they built new roads, modern shopping centres, ( I didn't visit new Kazimierz Shopping centre quite stylish).
New flats are modern, smart... But near older one it is little neglected...some rubbish, rusty fences...just little things it is not money just attitude sometimes, road signs are really bad again not money just attitude. But i think that in general it is changing for better.
Saying about property prices look at London, Oxford.... properties are overpriced there and also average "John" struggle to buy anything there.
As for Krakow, there is so much more than the main square.
Wawel Castle and Cathedral
Kazimierz-The Jewish Quarter
Da Vinci's "Lady with Ermine"
Giant Burial Mounds
Jagiellonian University
The Royal Route
And not so far away is Auscwitz Birkenau and Wieliczka Salt Mines
I have to say that I don't see your point.
Maybe if someone doesn't have much imagination he can't see much anywhere.....
and comparing to Germany ????? I wouldn't call germany as touristic paradise.
I could say the same about Paris- What is in the outskirts.....block of flats, flats.....and quite rough there.
I
have been living in England for about 4.5 years and now each time I go to Krakow,Poland I feel a little more....maybe not alienated but everything in Poland is changing and as I live abroad you miss it, don't notice. I think Krakow is pretty and full of charm it was like this and will be this.
It is becoming better and better they built new roads, modern shopping centres, ( I didn't visit new Kazimierz Shopping centre quite stylish).
New flats are modern, smart... But near older one it is little neglected...some rubbish, rusty fences...just little things it is not money just attitude sometimes, road signs are really bad again not money just attitude. But i think that in general it is changing for better.
Saying about property prices look at London, Oxford.... properties are overpriced there and also average "John" struggle to buy anything there.
As for Krakow, there is so much more than the main square.
Wawel Castle and Cathedral
Kazimierz-The Jewish Quarter
Da Vinci's "Lady with Ermine"
Giant Burial Mounds
Jagiellonian University
The Royal Route
And not so far away is Auscwitz Birkenau and Wieliczka Salt Mines
I have to say that I don't see your point.
Maybe if someone doesn't have much imagination he can't see much anywhere.....
and comparing to Germany ????? I wouldn't call germany as touristic paradise.
Shelley
13 Oct 2006 / #41
did all of the above apart from Da Vinici's Lady with Ermine
It was nice to get out of from the town square and go exploring - I was there for 7 days so made the most of it..
Never been to Germany and really dont have any disire either..
It was nice to get out of from the town square and go exploring - I was there for 7 days so made the most of it..
Never been to Germany and really dont have any disire either..
I have been to Munich and there was ok there but nothing so special. And was to Erfurt ( eastern part of Germany ) even less interesting.
you poor poles how will you cope with rude ignorent english neighbours lol
There will be no tea + milk for naughty Brits! :)
And if that doesn't help, we will tell them everything in their face freddys style, which basically means we will slag them English lot anonymously on some British forum! :) :)
no tea with milk, no big pies, no bags of crisps, no big friesd breakfasts, no yorkshire puddings....:)
But we still like you and....English humour will be allowed- rude and sarcastic that is what we like.:)
But we still like you and....English humour will be allowed- rude and sarcastic that is what we like.:)