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Do EU members need RESIDENCE CARD IN POLAND


crasyman77 11 | 37  
3 Nov 2007 /  #1
I am from malta i am EU citizen do i need to do residence card, i have been living here for one year. How can i do thies residence card, i have permantant residence where to live, what should i do to have some document
ukpolska  
3 Nov 2007 /  #2
Firstly, you should have a residence card.
Residence card=Karta pobytu. You can get it from Urząd Wojewódzki.
Although I must add that, they are undecided on what to give you and at the moment and it is just a bit of paper. It used to be like an ID card with your picture and other info on it, but they have stopped this now.

You need these for working.
Pesel you can get from the town hall where you live and NIP from local tax office.

I would recommend when you get these that you should seriously think about going self-employed as there is a offer on at the moment where you only pay 50% national health contributions "zus" for two years, along with the tax savings it can really help.
jasiek - | 12  
3 Nov 2007 /  #3
I was under the impression that a pesel was a personal identification number given only to Poles. I have always just used either my karta pobytu or passport number.

Is it true that foreigners can also obtain a pesel number??
ukpolska  
3 Nov 2007 /  #4
Is it true that foreigners can also obtain a pesel number??

Yes it is, and I have had mine for seven years now and I am British.
OP crasyman77 11 | 37  
4 Nov 2007 /  #5
So To work here in poland i need to have all these things? regarding the national insurance and tax do you think i have to pay it also in my country Malta? do you guys pay also in UK?
ukpolska  
4 Nov 2007 /  #6
regarding the national insurance and tax do you think i have to pay it also in my country Malta?

It depends if you are going to stay here for a long time regarding national insurance i.e. zus, because without it you are not eligible for health service care. Tax you will have to pay whatever fiddle the the company or yourself puts on it, someone has to pay in the end, so as I said it is better if you go self-employed as you will be able to claim a percentage back yourself.

I am not too sure what the agreement is between Malta and Poland is regarding tax rebates, but you might be able to claim the tax back for your work in Poland if it is temporary work.

do you guys pay also in UK?

No you only pay tax in the country that you are working.

So To work here in Poland i need to have all these things?

This depends, if you are going to live in Poland all your life then you will have to pay (zus) national insurance contributions for health care and pension and such like, but there are many different contracts that you can be employed with, one is a short term contract that you are providing a temporary service for a company where you do not have to pay zus, but this is often used as a fiddle to employ people so that the employer avoids paying zus contributions, which can add up to 700zl per month. Therefore, many employers prefer this method as it is cheaper for them, but it gives you nothing as regards health care and such like.

I hope that is understandable as I have a streaming cold and finding it quite difficult to concentrate. :O(
OP crasyman77 11 | 37  
5 Nov 2007 /  #7
Thenk you very much for your help it is real of great help to me now this monring i am going to office to ask for residence card. thank i hope your cold get better have anice day

I went to try to get this residence card. they told me that to stay more the 3 months in poland we need VISA is it true? we are EU members i have been here for much longer and at the border they never stamp my passport how can they know when i cam in poland? did it happen to anyone? and why they ask for insurace I am still not working here but i have paid it always in MALTA. any suggestions?
telefonitika  
6 Nov 2007 /  #8
speak to your embassy or consulate would be my best bet mate they will give you advise other than that not really sure as on the british website for the polish embassy it states that if you intend to stay longer than 90days (3months) you must apply for a residence permit within 3 days of arrival in Poland at the nearest government area office cant remember from top of my head the exact name

this is some info about uk citizens migrating to poland: novea.pl/aboutPoland.htm

i did do a search for someone from malta but not found anything yet to assist you
ukpolska  
6 Nov 2007 /  #9
This is all I could find :O)

Address Maltese Consulate
Ul. Sardynska 5 m 35
02-761 Warsaw
Poland
Telephone (+48) (22) 6421556
Telefax (+48) (22) 6428164
E-mail magsam@wa.home.pl
Website
Office Hours 09.00-13.00
Head of Mission Mrs Krystyna Maria Mikulanka, Consul
OP crasyman77 11 | 37  
6 Nov 2007 /  #10
thank you mate I realy appreciate your help. it is amasing sometimes these people that work in the offices are amasingly selfish
ukpolska  
6 Nov 2007 /  #11
it is amasing sometimes these people that work in the offices are amasingly selfish

This is Poland for you lol
OP crasyman77 11 | 37  
6 Nov 2007 /  #12
The email though that you wrot eis not good do you think you did some typing mistake? please can you contact me on skype or on email ipgalea@yahoo

skype name is crasyman77
Czestochowa 9 | 50  
7 Nov 2007 /  #13
crasyman77, how long have you been in Poland now?

I'm coming up for 3 months and don't have a Temp Residence Card yet. I'd like to know if I can leave Poland for a few weeks and then come back and if my 3 months start again?

This Residency Card business confuses me!
OP crasyman77 11 | 37  
7 Nov 2007 /  #14
i am still confused even me i am trying to get to know, but i have been in poland on and off nearly one year now
ukpolska  
7 Nov 2007 /  #15
Czestochowa

You may find some help here: paiz.gov.pl/index/?id=390e982518a50e280d8e2b535462ec1f
carlb 4 | 20  
2 Mar 2008 /  #16
I'm in a similar situation having been here for 4 months. I contacted the British Embassy asking them to clarify whether I must have a residency permit if I leave Poland and come back at a later late. They replied with the following formal response:

It is obligatory for all EU Citizens to obtain a Residency Registration Certificate confirming their stay in Poland (Zaświadczenie o Zarejestrowaniu Pobytu Obywateli Unii Europejskiej w Polsce).

The application for the certificate must be lodged in person to the appropriate Regional Voivod Office (Urząd Wojewódzki) after 3 months stay in Poland.

It doesn't mention what the implications are if you do not obtain this certificate.. Anybody know?
benszymanski 8 | 465  
2 Mar 2008 /  #17
My experience of local registration is here: zameldowanie search.

I know that lots of people don't bother registering though - effectively they are here just as 'tourists'. Technically illegal but I don't see how anyone can prove they have been here longer than 3 months.

Because I haven't had the chance to go to Krakow and get my karta pobytu yet I just keep re-registering locally every 3 months. I asked about getting a karta pobytu on this forum just the other day in fact: karta pobytu in krakow
Harry  
3 Mar 2008 /  #18
It doesn't mention what the implications are if you do not obtain this certificate.. Anybody know?

You are breaking the law. Does anybody give a sh*t? No, not really.

However, not having your TRC means that you can't do things like register a car (for longer than three months) and getting one really is not that much hassle.
dnz 17 | 710  
7 Jul 2008 /  #19
I have just got my papers from the voivod office and there is no Pesal, What do I do in order to get a pesal? I want to replace my UK credit card with a Polish one to avoid paying all the overseas charges and as I live here now it seems to make sense? Any ideas?
benszymanski 8 | 465  
7 Jul 2008 /  #20
Can't tell you about getting a Pesel as haven't gone about it myself, but you don't need a Pesel to get a credit card. I don't have one and got a credit card from Bank BGŻ without too much hassle. Plus as per the advice of a couple of forum members here, I am in the process of opening an account with mbank.pl who seem to be quite foreigner friendly - their website is even in English! Although the site says you don't need a Pesel but the guy on the phone told me I did. Asked him to check with his manager and then he said that I didn't...
cjj - | 281  
8 Jul 2008 /  #21
fyi
Last week I tried to use my karta pobytu in a bank in Gdansk - opening a new account type of transaction - and the bank wouldn't accept it. Passports only, said their rules...
ukpolska  
8 Jul 2008 /  #22
That's because they are worthless now according to my local office.
I went to renew my karta pobytu a couple of weeks ago, because of a change of address, and they told me that they are obsolete now and the Government is undecided what to do next.

All I got was a piece of paper with another date for six months and was told to come back then, although I don't trust them and am trying to find more information myself.
cjj - | 281  
9 Jul 2008 /  #23
Splendid ...

So does this mean that I should carry my passport at all times?

/hits head gently but repeatedly off desk/
benszymanski 8 | 465  
9 Jul 2008 /  #24
technically yes. Other EU citizens can carry their ID cards but of course we don't have those (yet...)
sobieski 107 | 2,128  
9 Jul 2008 /  #25
If you go to your local "Gmina" to get your meldunek, your PESEL is written on top of it. In my experience you need a Pesel for pretty much everything in Poland.

For example I went back to my home country Belgium on holidays and wanted an EKUZ card - well the first thing the NFZ wants you to fill in on their forms is that PESEL...

As for ID-cards I have heard a rumour that they are thinking of issuing ID cards for EU citizens... I also still have one of these flimsy plastic karta pobytu with my photo on.
confused  
6 Sep 2008 /  #26
Just wondering if anyone can actually provide an answer to this.

Are there any implications to registration, in regards to taxation/claim upon a property in Poland?

I believe I have to register in order to become self employed, is this correct? Or can this be done as a temporary resident?

Basically, I'm completely confused...
inkrakow  
6 Sep 2008 /  #27
Are there any implications to registration, in regards to taxation/claim upon a property in Poland?

I'm not quite sure what your question is...

You don't have to be registered as living in Poland to claim or own property here. If you rent your Polish property out, yes you do need to pay tax in Poland and also possibly in your home country. If there's a dual taxation agreement then what you pay in Poland counts against what you owe back home.

I don't know anything about self employment I'm afraid.
Harry  
6 Sep 2008 /  #28
I don't know anything about self employment I'm afraid.

Sounds like you are superbly qualified to work in any government office which deals with self-employed people. You should apply for a job there!
inkrakow  
6 Sep 2008 /  #29
Sounds like you are superbly qualified to work in any government office which deals with self-employed people.

;) I can, hand on heart, say that that thought has never occurred to me! I'd have to have a death wish...

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