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Pimsleur language learning system, is it any good?


rick54  4 | 9  
14 Mar 2007 /  #1
A search on Pimsleur gave little results, so I'd like to ask if anyone has used the Pimsleur language learning system in their Polish language studies. How did it work for you, and if you'd recommend it's use to others. It can be rather costly beyond the first 8 lessons, so an honest opinion would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you!
daffyincognito  
14 Mar 2007 /  #2
pimsleur in not bad at all, i found myself learning on my own quicker with it, it is aimed at americans and so it takes it nice and slow :)

daffy in cognito (aka Wroclaw)
szarlotka  8 | 2205  
14 Mar 2007 /  #3
it is aimed at americans and so it takes it nice and slow

You may expect some flak in return. Brave man :)
daffyincognito  
14 Mar 2007 /  #4
well perhaps :) but if you actually LISTEN to it, you cannot deny, its how do you say you are american, how do you say are you american :)
OP rick54  4 | 9  
14 Mar 2007 /  #6
Daffy,
Thank you for your comments. I would hope that the Pimsleur system was aimed towards all slow folks, American or otherwise. I must confess I don't have a photographic memory, so learning Polish is a slow process for me. AND I am American, which must make me an exception and not the rule!

Then again, maybe I missed something on this American thing?
The part of the format I did appreciate was the forward and backward pronunciation in a slow and clear manner. This is unlike the IVONA human speech synthesizer, which gives a much faster word pronunciation and was the subject of a previous post of mine.

Did you proceed beyond lesson 1 with your studies? Did you find the additional lessons as good as the first?
The reason for my asking this is that the Pimsleur website does offer a free lesson 1, which is a good sales tactic to get you to buy the whole set. Did you find that the additional lessons were as good as the first, or were they lacking in any way? Thanks
andylow  
4 Apr 2007 /  #7
I can help you with that.
Joe Ackney  
8 Apr 2007 /  #8
I've been using pimsleur style audio lessons and found them to be useful in training my ear to polish. However,i find it slow and in some cases limited.

Each lesson is about 28 minutes long. In that time an english phrase is spoken then repeated again in english, with small pause between to give you chance to translate the english phrase for your self. Each lesson contains around 10 phrase that are based around a simple dialouge. Those phases are repeated in and out of context. Every lesson introduces a few new words and maybe a phrase.

From my understanding the main focus is on vocab and sentance structure. Detailed grammer is often over looked.

Each lessons builds on the previous lesson so you can progress quickly through the lessons without having to repeat each one more than once. But like i said, it's slow as new material is introduced gradually and each lesson contains alot of old material.

That said, i've found them useful but i wouldn't rely soley on them, try using the pimsleur lessons in conjuction with other learning material.
sledz  23 | 2247  
8 Apr 2007 /  #9
how much does that system cost???

I have rosetta stone and transparent lang program

seems to work pretty good I think
daffy  22 | 1153  
8 Apr 2007 /  #10
you can downlaod it for free with utorrent or something similar
sledz  23 | 2247  
8 Apr 2007 /  #11
cool......
Like that old saying " if its free its for me"......:)
Joe Ackney  2 | 8  
8 Apr 2007 /  #12
Well my copy fell off a back of a website :)
daffy  22 | 1153  
8 Apr 2007 /  #13
weird, mine too! that happens alot these days :)
valmoe1  11 | 52  
8 Apr 2007 /  #15
BYKI.com! It's great! I did the Pimsler and that was good for speaking simple phrases but to learn to read and write try byki.com. It's free dowload to start and it's at your own pace so if your fast or slow, you can control it.
svengoolie  1 | 112  
8 Apr 2007 /  #16
BYKI.com!

True I bought the full version myself
daffy  22 | 1153  
8 Apr 2007 /  #17
i found it basic - though i only took the free version, whats in the full version?
svengoolie  1 | 112  
8 Apr 2007 /  #18
transparent language its byki`s full version
Joe Ackney  2 | 8  
8 Apr 2007 /  #19
hey send us a link

Download edonkey and search for pimsleur polish.
svengoolie  1 | 112  
8 Apr 2007 /  #20
I have to give it a go...Thanks
sledz  23 | 2247  
8 Apr 2007 /  #21
Download edonkey

Its a p2p site.. Its gotta be loaded with spyware?????
daffy  22 | 1153  
8 Apr 2007 /  #22
use a torrent.

torrents are not loaded with spyware and are more difficult to track and easier/safer to downlaod

ok, well they are both easy to download but safer, yes

utorrent.com

azureus.com

and use for eg.pirate bay for the torrent
sledz  23 | 2247  
8 Apr 2007 /  #23
way kewl daffy
I have it downloading right now....:)

though i only took the free version, whats in the full version

transparent.com/languagepages/polish/polish.htm

I like the part that you can load into a ipod
daffy  22 | 1153  
8 Apr 2007 /  #24
pimsleur can be loaded too.

infact, any audio file on your computer can (including WMA if you know how :) - google how :) )

transparent.com/languagepages/polish/polish.htm

cool thanks
sledz  23 | 2247  
9 Apr 2007 /  #25
Yo daffy. I was able to get the whole program,
its seems like a pretty good one
ludamad  2 | 18  
9 Apr 2007 /  #26
daffy: But as I understand it, you can have the whole interactive lesson on the iPod, it isnt a media file
daffy  22 | 1153  
9 Apr 2007 /  #27
ipods hold a wide range of media.

daffy: But as I understand it, you can have the whole interactive lesson on the iPod, it isnt a media file

i dont fully comprehend your text sorry

as any audio file, they can be made to work on an ipod

Yo daffy. I was able to get the whole program,
its seems like a pretty good one

cool
sledz  23 | 2247  
22 Sep 2007 /  #28
theres another good one on here I just have to find it

Hope it didnt get deleted, It was a good one
StaryDom  3 | 16  
24 Oct 2007 /  #29
I just bought the Pimsleur Polish Comprehensive CD set... 30 lessons. I borrowed the first ten lessons from the library and it seems to be working for me. I did the "torrent" thing, but there is a problems with that! Not only is it, well, stealing, but we vote with our dollars, and I'd like to see the publisher issue the second and third sets (for a total of 90 lessons). I think they will only do that if the first thirty lessons sell well. If we all download the stuff, it might hurt our chances of seeing more advanced sets.
skyeyez  - | 7  
25 Oct 2007 /  #30
My Polish boyfriend laughs at me when I practice with him because he says that the formality of the phrases on the programme arent used that much any more....not really the result i was hoping for :D

Apparently "pan/pani" and the other more formal ways of addressing people arent going to be that useful to me when we go and stay with his family and meet his friends back in Poland.

Plus I am English and because I didnt look into the programme properly i didnt reallise it is aimed towards Americans but of course aint a problem :)

Other than that it's a really good programme and the memory techniques are amazing....the stuff just sticks in your mind if you give it your full attention. Definately one to buy...(mine fell off the back of a website too!) ;)

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