Lukasz
22 Sep 2007
Lukasz
22 Sep 2007
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]
ok I have some interesting data, according partners size
data is from 2005 but we have made similar progres
Russia 140 mln people whole GDP (not per capita) 385.3 mld EUR (you have here : gas, petrol, industry, services just everthing)
Poland 38 mln people GDP is 243.4 mld EUR.
So all in all in Polish economy isnt much smaler than yours.
when we take GDP per capita (per person)
Russia GDP is about 2752,14 EUR
Poland GDP is about 6405,26 EUR
source: EUROSTAT
do you know what do we think when we see you sending space rockets, or building new strategic bombers, or missiles ...
Just take take our expirence ... and become more or less but democratic country, using free market. And just stop talking about "low cost" something ... whole world works every hour to produce cheaper and better products.
ok I have some interesting data, according partners size
data is from 2005 but we have made similar progres
Russia 140 mln people whole GDP (not per capita) 385.3 mld EUR (you have here : gas, petrol, industry, services just everthing)
Poland 38 mln people GDP is 243.4 mld EUR.
So all in all in Polish economy isnt much smaler than yours.
when we take GDP per capita (per person)
Russia GDP is about 2752,14 EUR
Poland GDP is about 6405,26 EUR
source: EUROSTAT
do you know what do we think when we see you sending space rockets, or building new strategic bombers, or missiles ...
Just take take our expirence ... and become more or less but democratic country, using free market. And just stop talking about "low cost" something ... whole world works every hour to produce cheaper and better products.
Lukasz
22 Sep 2007
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]
no my dear truhlei,
USA GDP is about 10037,1 mld EUR
... politely we think, yes they are spending they money on S*** they are to weak to use.
no my dear truhlei,
USA GDP is about 10037,1 mld EUR
... politely we think, yes they are spending they money on S*** they are to weak to use.
Lukasz
22 Sep 2007
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]
it was about Russia ... personaly i think that USA is doing the same S*** but they can use their power
Quoting: Lukasz ... politely we think, yes they are spending they money on S*** they are to weak to use.
it was about Russia ... personaly i think that USA is doing the same S*** but they can use their power
Lukasz
22 Sep 2007
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]
Oh my god, western, eastern, totalitarism. I dont understand you. There is nothing like one western world. Europe tries to be one partner for USA. Japan is democratic as well. Ther isnt one western democratic world.
In quite an uncontroled state of 142 mln residents where the law is forest and a bear is justice? Don't be crazy. Europe could influence in Poland and you became better. Your posts show that by your own force it would be impossible.
We were much poorer than you are now, without "low cost" cars or cottages
solidarity poland
Oh my god, western, eastern, totalitarism. I dont understand you. There is nothing like one western world. Europe tries to be one partner for USA. Japan is democratic as well. Ther isnt one western democratic world.
In quite an uncontroled state of 142 mln residents where the law is forest and a bear is justice? Don't be crazy. Europe could influence in Poland and you became better. Your posts show that by your own force it would be impossible.
First make your ideas clear and millions in Russia will follow you.
We were much poorer than you are now, without "low cost" cars or cottages
solidarity poland
Lukasz
22 Sep 2007
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]
i changed my previous post I hope you noticed
look esp. on 2nd quote
i changed my previous post I hope you noticed
look esp. on 2nd quote
Lukasz
23 Sep 2007
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]
average salary is about 2800 pln (data from this mounth) dolar costs about 2,6 pln so we earn about 1076 $ per mounth (without tax), but... but it doesnt mater.
truhlei EU, USA or Putin are not going to give you democracy, you have to go on the street and finght for that
Russia with average salary of USD 500 as well as Poland that may be much more rich
average salary is about 2800 pln (data from this mounth) dolar costs about 2,6 pln so we earn about 1076 $ per mounth (without tax), but... but it doesnt mater.
truhlei EU, USA or Putin are not going to give you democracy, you have to go on the street and finght for that
Lukasz
23 Sep 2007
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]
Look on histoy of our fight
1945-52 open military fight against red army and comunists
more significant riots, protestes, manifiestations against comunism:
1956
1968
1970
1980-81
and the end
1989
We know It was your system, and we were only waiting for your weaknes, I give you our expirience, you can use it or not it is your choice.
But what I have noticed, Russia which pretends to be so strong ... and Russian society ... weak and not able to resistance.
Look on histoy of our fight
1945-52 open military fight against red army and comunists
more significant riots, protestes, manifiestations against comunism:
1956
1968
1970
1980-81
and the end
1989
We know It was your system, and we were only waiting for your weaknes, I give you our expirience, you can use it or not it is your choice.
But what I have noticed, Russia which pretends to be so strong ... and Russian society ... weak and not able to resistance.
Lukasz
23 Sep 2007
Lukasz
23 Sep 2007
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]
You have to create your slogan, I m not Russian, you told me not to teach you
You have to create your slogan, I m not Russian, you told me not to teach you
Lukasz
23 Sep 2007
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]
ok transformation hurts a lot of people ...
Look on veterans from vietnam, after their fight, forgoten, on the marigin of society ...
My family was always in oposition espesialy in 1945-52 and '80s. And whole family have won on transformation . But there were a lot of people who fighted against comunism and just were not so good in capitalism. Privatisation in some cases were unfair. But now throught young people there is no segregation of children of comunists and opposition. Yes some of the people are realy disappoited, Just imagine two friends form factory and one of them has his own bussines now and antoher one is working part time in factory. Even he live in better conditions he is disappoited because he was on the middle of ladder and now he is on the bottom.
And some of them are disapointed that they were fighting agains coumunism and they lost, and some of those who were in party becomed realy good in free market and they are on the top all the time.
Some of comunists just before transformation frauded some goods and had better start in new system.
We had post-comunists governemnt in our country but they used democracy and were west oriented.
But now we are going in right direction, and we have democracy and free market, our economy is stronger and stronger, and we have freedom of speach, free media ...
According Russia, you have much worst situation 0,1% of your society lives like medieval dukes, and rest just can look on it. All in all you havent fight for your freedom so you dont have the base to be disappointed.
You should made presure for more freedom, you make demostration in the defend of independent local newspaper, when you recive it you ask for more. If you dont recive it you notice your governemnt isnt as good as it pretends to be ... And you get more supporters... There will be monent when your society will see the real face of regime and your regime will notice that it is not possible to be on the top in this system and will think about transformation and their future after ...
ok transformation hurts a lot of people ...
Look on veterans from vietnam, after their fight, forgoten, on the marigin of society ...
My family was always in oposition espesialy in 1945-52 and '80s. And whole family have won on transformation . But there were a lot of people who fighted against comunism and just were not so good in capitalism. Privatisation in some cases were unfair. But now throught young people there is no segregation of children of comunists and opposition. Yes some of the people are realy disappoited, Just imagine two friends form factory and one of them has his own bussines now and antoher one is working part time in factory. Even he live in better conditions he is disappoited because he was on the middle of ladder and now he is on the bottom.
And some of them are disapointed that they were fighting agains coumunism and they lost, and some of those who were in party becomed realy good in free market and they are on the top all the time.
Some of comunists just before transformation frauded some goods and had better start in new system.
We had post-comunists governemnt in our country but they used democracy and were west oriented.
But now we are going in right direction, and we have democracy and free market, our economy is stronger and stronger, and we have freedom of speach, free media ...
According Russia, you have much worst situation 0,1% of your society lives like medieval dukes, and rest just can look on it. All in all you havent fight for your freedom so you dont have the base to be disappointed.
You should made presure for more freedom, you make demostration in the defend of independent local newspaper, when you recive it you ask for more. If you dont recive it you notice your governemnt isnt as good as it pretends to be ... And you get more supporters... There will be monent when your society will see the real face of regime and your regime will notice that it is not possible to be on the top in this system and will think about transformation and their future after ...
Lukasz
23 Sep 2007
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]
paper was example, what I wanted to say is that you should fight :)))
;)
paper was example, what I wanted to say is that you should fight :)))
;)
Lukasz
23 Sep 2007
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]
so wait for Porshe for 2000$ and we will go our way ...
so wait for Porshe for 2000$ and we will go our way ...
Lukasz
23 Sep 2007
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]
You know Poland was waitnig only for the moment of weaknes of your country, without Soviet Union we would be democratic just after the WWII, now we can go our way. And we do it. You think your way is more proper for Russia, ok it is your choice. Go your own way. We will see who have chosen better
You know Poland was waitnig only for the moment of weaknes of your country, without Soviet Union we would be democratic just after the WWII, now we can go our way. And we do it. You think your way is more proper for Russia, ok it is your choice. Go your own way. We will see who have chosen better
Lukasz
23 Sep 2007
News / Polish-German Relations in the Present [697]
30% according new focuses, in some regions they had in last local elections 9% Ihope they will deal with it ...
LOL typical English way of conversation ;)
I prefere our more emotional.
ukasz, do you really think the 3% vote in one region
30% according new focuses, in some regions they had in last local elections 9% Ihope they will deal with it ...
lukasz,Im glad you saw I wasnt trying to say "we're the best" etc or to put Poland down in anyway
LOL typical English way of conversation ;)
I prefere our more emotional.
Lukasz
23 Sep 2007
News / Roman Giertych.... a right-wing politician from Poland [90]
ok I understand you hello ... but half of america does the same with their idiot Bush ...
But all in all ok we shouldnt ;))))
Yes we like to mock that kind of others ;) That is why we will never create new Hitler ;)
because after one of his grate speaches:
youtu.be/_Q-6H4xOUrs
he would be considered as pedofile and mocked ;)
ok I understand you hello ... but half of america does the same with their idiot Bush ...
But all in all ok we shouldnt ;))))
The Polish nation likes to mock other people, especially if they are a little different from the crowd. I don't understand that.
Yes we like to mock that kind of others ;) That is why we will never create new Hitler ;)
because after one of his grate speaches:
youtu.be/_Q-6H4xOUrs
he would be considered as pedofile and mocked ;)
Lukasz
24 Sep 2007
Lukasz
24 Sep 2007
News / Polish-German Relations in the Present [697]
come on constantine :)))) we will give you low-cost cottages ;)))))
and good cars, really good cars ;)
Sure they will be on the profitable side
come on constantine :)))) we will give you low-cost cottages ;)))))
and good cars, really good cars ;)
Lukasz
24 Sep 2007
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]
In Poland comunists were in prison (before WWII)
but no no no not again history
The percentage of Polish-speaking people that participated in Communism was the same than Russian one and in communist secret police even higher (before 1936)
In Poland comunists were in prison (before WWII)
but no no no not again history
Lukasz
24 Sep 2007
History / Katyn - the Polish movie [29]
intro in english (hi quality) so up loads longer
katyn.netino.pl/zwiastuny/katyn_ang.wmv
intro in english (hi quality) so up loads longer
katyn.netino.pl/zwiastuny/katyn_ang.wmv
Lukasz
24 Sep 2007
History / Jewish belongings [118]
about 30% of Warszawa was jewish beffore the war.
And it is Warszawa after the war (95% of town totally destroyed)
What do you think happened with jewish belongings there ...
about 30% of Warszawa was jewish beffore the war.
And it is Warszawa after the war (95% of town totally destroyed)
What do you think happened with jewish belongings there ...
Lukasz
24 Sep 2007
History / Cud nad Wisla / Battle of Warsaw 1920 - Public Holiday [21]
it shows better whole war not only one battle ... we deffended our country we stoped red army
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish-Soviet_War
it shows better whole war not only one battle ... we deffended our country we stoped red army
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish-Soviet_War
Lukasz
24 Sep 2007
Love / Dating age difference - my 16 yo is dating a 26 yo Polish guy [102]
I live in Poland and most of Polish families would be worried when their 16 year old dauther would date 26 year old man
WE are not polish, but he is first generation. Is this a cultural thing, or is he a creep?
I live in Poland and most of Polish families would be worried when their 16 year old dauther would date 26 year old man
Lukasz
25 Sep 2007
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]
You have started repeting lie which was discuter here, (3rd May constitution !!!)
I think that you want discuss it again to hide your "way of thinking" we have seen on last pages... no ,no my dear ConstantineK, last pages show exactly what all the people should know about our relationships.
You have started repeting lie which was discuter here, (3rd May constitution !!!)
I think that you want discuss it again to hide your "way of thinking" we have seen on last pages... no ,no my dear ConstantineK, last pages show exactly what all the people should know about our relationships.
Lukasz
25 Sep 2007
News / Polish-German Relations in the Present [697]
my godness, you are so useful ConstantinK ... :)))
my godness, you are so useful ConstantinK ... :)))
Lukasz
25 Sep 2007
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]
be careful with your appetite ... Soviet Union beaten by Poland
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish-Soviet_War
as to history, do you remember ?
You were on the knees only on front of Poles
You will remember them as well :
be careful with your appetite ... Soviet Union beaten by Poland
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish-Soviet_War
as to history, do you remember ?
You were on the knees only on front of Poles
You will remember them as well :
Lukasz
25 Sep 2007
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]
pain :)
ok so maybe Russian tsar, who came to Cracow asking Polish king for help , we werent interested so he converted into catolic religion and gained support of some Polish nobels who helped him to take moscov and were using him as a puppet :) we were there before Napoleon and we were much longer there (Polish flag was on the top of kreml) ...
pain :)
ok so maybe Russian tsar, who came to Cracow asking Polish king for help , we werent interested so he converted into catolic religion and gained support of some Polish nobels who helped him to take moscov and were using him as a puppet :) we were there before Napoleon and we were much longer there (Polish flag was on the top of kreml) ...
Lukasz
25 Sep 2007
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]
Agree we were so stron because of our model, everybody wanted to join us to get the same rights as our citizens. That is why our neighbours were so furious about our contitution in XVIII century ...
Oh yes minorietes had easy life in our neighbours countries ... espesialy in Hitles Germany, or ortodox in soviet union ... That is why they were coming to Poland
So RP was a winner. Not by its force but in more glorious case: by its model.
Agree we were so stron because of our model, everybody wanted to join us to get the same rights as our citizens. That is why our neighbours were so furious about our contitution in XVIII century ...
Many discriminations of Orthodox minorities were noticed not only by Eastern residents but also by Western Europeans. There were also problems not only with Orthodox people but also with Slovak minority.
Oh yes minorietes had easy life in our neighbours countries ... espesialy in Hitles Germany, or ortodox in soviet union ... That is why they were coming to Poland
Lukasz
25 Sep 2007
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]
we play the same games all the time ...
Look on the map, terietories which belonged to Poland votes for democracy, especially those which were in Poland in 1918-39 . they tasted life in Poland and in Russia.
It could go better, but it seams that Ukrainians catched the rules of free election ... so it is good step. We had our Oleksy as well, so maybe Jankuwicz will not be so bad. We will see after up coming elections. But the people on the streets knows what they want ...
When RP democracy was in action that was a nice example.
we play the same games all the time ...
Look on the map, terietories which belonged to Poland votes for democracy, especially those which were in Poland in 1918-39 . they tasted life in Poland and in Russia.
It could go better, but it seams that Ukrainians catched the rules of free election ... so it is good step. We had our Oleksy as well, so maybe Jankuwicz will not be so bad. We will see after up coming elections. But the people on the streets knows what they want ...
Lukasz
25 Sep 2007
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]
LOL Germans were always Polonophobic with anty-Polish propaganda. Read some books ...
We dont worry they were on the knees as well :)))
Do you know that after smashing your army in 1914 near Tanennberg they told that it was the revange for Poles (there were some Lithuenians, Tatars, and Smolensk troops) smahing them in 1410 in the bigest medieval battle (Grunwald very close to Tannenberg).
The true is that for them slav is slav
LOL Germans were always Polonophobic with anty-Polish propaganda. Read some books ...
We dont worry they were on the knees as well :)))
Do you know that after smashing your army in 1914 near Tanennberg they told that it was the revange for Poles (there were some Lithuenians, Tatars, and Smolensk troops) smahing them in 1410 in the bigest medieval battle (Grunwald very close to Tannenberg).
The true is that for them slav is slav