UK, Ireland / Stop the Polish from entering the UK (yet another thread) [192]

thats right amirah,some across the pond may get sniffy about some british peoples comments but this is a small island,over 1 million Poles arriving in 2 years would be like what,half of mexico(literaly ,not in some "iliegals" bashing sense) arriving in the states in that time frame. Some will always have problems with "johnny forgiegner" but most just get on with their lives and take advantage of the culinery delights brought by each succsesive wave of incomers. Mmmmm Curried bigos kebabs anyone? :)

UK, Ireland / Stop the Polish from entering the UK (yet another thread) [192]


really,do you include the couple I saw on a recent " buy a peasants house off them for peanuts abroad" programe where they were extatic about finding a bargin house in croatia complete with a bullet hole spattered basement that they thought would make a good talking point with guests? (the bullets were from the execution of the previous occupants by Serbs. (calm down crow...)

UK, Ireland / Polish teenager murdered after arriving in UK [117]


your morals,others belive that NO human has the right to take another life whether out of pschosis or a pencil pushing state lackey ordering it as pointless retribution.

History / THE POLES ON THE FRONT LINES OF WWII [92]

Cracking site Lukasz,thanks,added to fav's
a couple more,on the Uprising;

Warsaw Uprising Museum in Warsaw (1944.pl)
Warsaw Uprising 1944 (warsawuprising.com)
Warsaw Rising: The Forgotten Soldiers of World War II. Educator Guide (cnnstudentnews.cnn.com/2004/fyi/news/06/03/cnnpce.warsaw.rising)
Extensive information on Warsaw Uprising in Polish (whatfor.prv.pl)
Photographs of the Warsaw Uprising (ipn.gov.pl/aktual_powst_war.html)
The Warsaw Rising (polandinexile.com/rising.htm)
The Warsaw Uprising - 1.VIII.1944 (wings.buffalo.edu/info-poland/exhib/warsaw/index.html)

Quoting: Lukasz
fourth greatest Allied army
Fourth largest!!!!! second greatest ! :) (well,come on,Ive got to be a little patriotic :) )

History / Polish resettlement camps in Britain 1945 [82]

Peter,you have hit the nail on the head,there does seem to be a certain section of otherwise inteligent young Poles that seem to want to blame everyone else for everything and cannot/will not admit that maybe,just maybe there were enough Poles willing to do Stalins bidding that not everything bad done in Poland was done by the russians or winston bl o ody churchill (i hate having to defend the drunken a rse but hey,in this case....). Wasnt there a civil war in Poland between 45 and 47 (about 56 if you count the last of the ex home army types to come in from the forests) where loyal Poles were killing other loyal Poles? I would suggest removing the rose tinted(practicaly opaque) glasses if you want to be taken seriously as any sort of historians.


hey,you missed off the 1 isreali ,that has confused the heck out of at least 2 generations of British schoolboys at the end of the film........

UK, Ireland / Polish teenager murdered after arriving in UK [117]

bless ya Sofi,its nice to know Im not alone in finding the "Hang 'em" mentality as disturbing as the mind of a murderer. :)


100% with you there! No parole without seriously extenuating circumstances .

History / Polish resettlement camps in Britain 1945 [82]


Ok then brain box,what part of my statement is incorrect?Point anything historically wrong in that and you get a cookie. Who were the LWP? answer=Poles.Who were they fighting in 45-47?answer=Poles

Who were the KBW?answer Poles. who were they fighting and killing?answer=other Poles.
BTW its British,not Brits .
Real Polish historians dont have a problem admitting that there were plenty of Polish communists around,I ask again why do some modern day Polish kids not get this as well? Why all the peeing and moaning about Britain anyway,as you say it was the Soviets who were an occupying force in Poland ,not Britain, do any of you seriously think anything could have been done short of sparking off the 3rd world war to remove them? If you do you are suffering serious delusions and more than a touch of persecution syndrome. I think the most vocal ones against Britain etc are probably the ones with shameful little secrets in their family histories,all the people I know descended from true Polish patriots have a rather more realistic and pragmatic attitude,and believe me I know plenty,both from those families who stayed in Poland and those who grew up in this country after receiving asylum here from persecution by the Polish Govt in Warsaw at the time.


I was born in the 70s....My Grandparents fought along side Poles and respected them,they had no say in where the Soviet Juggernaut decided to stop so call a halt on your immature little attacks on the nation that gave every one of your fighting forces bar the lwp all their kit and equipment,not to mention a home,friendship,families and jobs in this country where as if they had returned home to Poland they would have ended up in Pawiak,a prison run by Poles to keep and kill other Poles.


Yes,thats when you stopped pointing nuclear weapons at us,what a silly comment,the fall of communism in 89 signaled the real end of ww2 for every nation in Europe.


now,if your trying to say Britain imposed communism on you ,ha blooming har har,that would have been the Soviet Russians with the help of Polish communist collaborators. Your real disdain should be reserved for FDR,he was the one that got together with Stalin leaving winnie out of the loop entirely,but I suppose with the butt kissing thats going on from certain sections of Polish society to the USA at the minute that is unlikely,lets just blame the one country in Europe that whenever it has been possible has offered a home to Poles,not to mention your democratic govt in exile in London. As I say, I ,and many other "ill educated Brits" do actually know their stuff so try to pull the woool over your own eyes if you want but dont bother here or with me.

History / Polish resettlement camps in Britain 1945 [82]

lmao, the worst thing is,if we actualy told them how much we were taught about Poland in school.....
ok,here goes; On 1st of september Poland was invaded by nazi germany,on the 3rd Britain declared war on germany..........here endeth the lesson.

(exactly how much of western history were you taught? coz Ive sat with MA graduates through a film,"They died with their boots on" about custers last stand,everyone of them wanted to know what happened at the end and hoped custer and his dashing cavelry would escape the redskins. it works both ways. When you are the country that shaped the modern world through the industrial revolution and the invention of damm near everything (apart from polonium) used to this day,railways,motor cars,telephones etc etc adnauseum you do tend to find your history lessons a little too packed to also fit in a thouragh history of ,at the time I was at school,an enemy country behind the iron curtain.

History / Polish resettlement camps in Britain 1945 [82]

Matyjasz,a historian has no Nation(when wearing the "history hat" ) or he is merely a propagandist,either willing or unknowingly. Lukasz is a fine example of a "patriotic" person with an interest in history,there is a difference.

You are taught the war of the roses in Polish schools?What on earth for? It isnt even on any curriculum over here as far as I know!

On this thread,Ive said my piece as far as the whole "britain sold Poland" guff goes(without wandering off into wierd tangents of iraq and george bush...) historical record in all languages (bar russian) would show the "truth" of whats been stated by various people on here,for those who choose not to believe the recorded facts and would seem to rather take a more "ooh,the world hates us" tac that puts one more in mind of another group of people many origionaly from the same neck of the woods.

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]


well said that man,racial unions,what piffel,the sort of crap that leads to death squads and labour camps and worst of all silly homo erotic uniforms and shiney black boots,the worlds sick of that crap,I would have thought someone from a country decimated by that sort of bullcrap would have more sense.

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

vive le difference

UK, Ireland / Polish Thoughts on Britain and the British [273]


Yes,and they seem to know how to handle it better in public aswell. Incidents that would end up in casualty over here have ended up with 2 groups of people coming together for the remender of a night out over there.

Ogorek,you may be interested to know that Bletchley Park holds an annual " Polish Day" in honour of the first breakers of Enigma, I shall be attending next year with some collegues in various historical sociaties to put on some small dysplays in rememberence of the Polish armed forces.

History / Polish resettlement camps in Britain 1945 [82]


Ha! Pot/Kettle......

History / Ross kemp on Polish Gangs/Nazis - Untermenschen Nazis..?? [69]


er,its a programe about football hooligans in Poland,what else should he have been asking?????

And in answer to your question,or to turn it around, How can some so called british people be in far right groups that worship hitler and salute the nazi flag,ie most members of the BNP (go on ,sue me u tw ats,id love to be in court with u u one eyed freek.) and all the other various skin head scum bags whose grandparents were bombed by the lufftwaffe?

=because they are numpties not worth discussing .......

Life / Why do poles drink & drive? [82]

frikin lunatics,worse than your average boy racer here in the UK is my opinion from my experiances. I have seen shunts and bumps in London,in Warsaw,in 10 days I saw more dead people than I have in 10 years over here.Stupid speeds driven in the city and reckless disregard for anyone outside the car.

Dont blame roads,you drive to suit the conditions.

History / Ross kemp on Polish Gangs/Nazis - Untermenschen Nazis..?? [69]

he's talking about the russian teenagers charged in isreal with being neo nazis. Apparently they got into isreal because some time in the past they may have had jewish ancestors.............so no,not jewish nazis per se. although jewish far right is not much better,they just see the arabs as their zhids.....

History / Polish resettlement camps in Britain 1945 [82]


er,lets not,this thread was about Polish resettlement in the UK after WW2,something you have demonstrated absolutly zero knowladge of so.........

UK, Ireland / Polish Thoughts on Britain and the British [273]

what the heck is your problem aj, and wtf are you on about?
You are plainly getting up on the wrong side of somebodies bed these days,take an asprin,lie down in a dark place and come back to talk with the grown ups when you are feeling better.

UK, Ireland / English people attitude towards Poles? [761]

The arrogence of some of you people is unbelivievable. All you do is moan about lack of work in Poland which obviously couldnt possibly be Polands fault,but as soon as someone from the country over a million of you have come too tells you about his situation the arrogence and posturing kicks in. How do any of you know what the situation is like where he lives? He may live in an area like mine where untill very recently there was high unemployment due to thatcher that has suddenly welcomed tens of thousands of people willing to work for peanuts in crappy conditions. If you were an employer looking to save money who would you employ,the local who knows his rights and expects a decent wage or someone just off the boat who will work all hours for little pay?

He may be a warehouse man or such and if thats the case he probably is getting turned down in favour of immigrent labour . God I cant wait till some of you get home and find all the jobs in Poland you want taken by Ukrainians or Belrussians the sapogi will be on the other foot then.

oh ,and call yourself a "moderator" since when has it been a moderators job to insult posters who have shown nothing but a willingness too engage? maybe a little rethink on your duties is in order?

History / Polish resettlement camps in Britain 1945 [82]


you do realise how stupid you sound dont you? seeing as I am probably the one putting in the most input in this thread (on topic,unlike you)to counter your odd mix of communist propaganda and bleating self-pity.......if you are insulted by the truth there is clearly no hope for you,i suggest you move to mother Russia where your type of dogmatic interpretation of history may still hold water......


It is a phrase meaning you have double standards....you accuse people of not understanding history yet clearly you have no understanding of it yourself.

The kettle(black iron) calls the pot(black iron) er, black.

History / Ross kemp on Polish Gangs/Nazis - Untermenschen Nazis..?? [69]


maybe the Mitchel twins are secret polonophobes or some such crap. I tell you ross kemp may be a bit of a tit but these docs' he's done have rightly won him some awards. Seriously,why do you think there is some conspiricy to make up nazi stuff about modern poland,nazi tossers are everywhere,thats kinda the point. If your a nazi or a skin your a brain dead toss pot and every country has its share of those.

Life / Why do poles drink & drive? [82]

er,lukasz,Im talking,as is everyone else in this thread about drivers(you rascist little pixie) not about arseholes in pubs.And btw,Im not english so why should I care what they get upto?

Life / Polish movie/directors [23]

Polanski is french mate( and a child abuser),only time he spent in Poland was in the Krakow Ghetto......
But as too the rest. Spot on,anyone who hasnt seen Wajdas trilogy needs to get on ebay right now and order it.
As for showing my preferences,youve done that for me already lukasz :)
Kanal
EuropaEropa
The Pianist
Three colours White
would all be up there in my top 20 films ofall time.

ps,was that Stella Advert made in Poland? the one with the Priests ice skating? I nearly fell off my chair when I spotted old Zb Zamachowski in it! (and embaresingly burst out laughing at that scene in the Pianist with the gold coins lol

Life / Why do poles drink & drive? [82]

no they wouldnt,inbread shmucks are inbread shmucks no matter which country they are from.
There are plenty of english who are so far from your stereotype of drunken bums but you will tar all the english as the same,ergo you are rascist,just as I would be if I said all Poles had a tendency to be selfpitying whingers,some are but not the majority.

I should have said you are being rascist,not you are rascist per se, my apologies.

Life / Polish movie/directors [23]


see,me and you would probably get on well in real life mate :)
And about Europa Europa. How well do you think it captured the mood of the time,ie "Catholic"Poles crossing to get to "safety " on the German side of the river and "jewish" Poles(ok,solly was German but you get me..) crossing to the Russians? I didnt like the implication that Polish Jewish soldiers wernt given rifles,that seemed abit far fetched to me.

UK, Ireland / English people attitude towards Poles? [761]

ggrrr ,yep bubba,Ive sat back too long now It just had to burst forth. But I suppose I will have some strawberry picker calling me polonophobic or some tit who thinks they are the brains of europe laughing at the fact my spelling isnt 100% . I could give a monkeys though, Im dyslexic and proud and sick to death of people who have not one clue what they are talking about insulting people . Yes there are tossers who come on here to insult Poles,and a fair few dole dodgers that probably find it conveniant to jump on a bandwagon of blaming everyone but themselves for thier situation(something I would have thought Poles would have a natural empathy towards) but there are plenty of areas in this country that really are getting knocked for six by parasitical types only here for money,and that includes both the new workers who clearly have little respect for the country providing them with employment and the toss pot employers who spout all that crap about "Poles being natural hard workers" ,when they mean ,CHEAP labour.

Life / Polish movie/directors [23]

Well,Jews were being forced out of germany to Poland would be a more acurate summing up of what was going on wouldnt it? This happened after Herschal Grynszpan(polish/jewish hero,imho)(sp?)shot the nazi in paris didnt it but,anyhoo....

BTW, I think one of the best charectors in the film is the young Polish lad who gets run over by a truck, he is the only one who stands up to the Reds (but he does have an uncanny resembalence to van der valk which is kinda wierd.....)

UK, Ireland / Polish Thoughts on Britain and the British [273]


I'll have to bring mine next time then :) (although with my legs I may just frighten the locals:) )

UK, Ireland / English people attitude towards Poles? [761]

Just to clarify my points. Fair play to people who move to this country to work,just have a little understanding for the local situation and lose the attitude or you will become a set of selffullfilling prophecies,isolated and disliked by the local population.

The anger should be aimed at agencies and employers not on fellow workers( oops,a bit "red" but ,ah well)

Life / Polish movie/directors [23]

Cool,winged Hussars,got to see that movie!
Agread with lukasz,from what I know Europa Europa "tells it like it was" without any paranoia or exagerated examples of anti wotsits (unlike a certain black and white film by Speilberg)

Dekalog was shown in full on UK TV last year,I taped it and think its fantastic,also very interesting to see Warsaw from before I know it.

The Pianist also is a great movie,well balanced and featuring the heros of the Uprising (although this confused many septics and brits who thought it was the ghetto one..) the only scene I take issue with is the one where WS is on a work gang and see's a Polish market that looks like the most well supplied food market ever,but I heard this was artistic to show how even the small amount of food he would have seen would appear a vision of paradise to him.