freebird
19 Jun 2009
History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]
hey, as long as you say it, lol
you kinda of sound racist
hey, as long as you say it, lol
freebird
18 Jun 2009
History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]
do you seriously believe he'll let it go? lol
He's just another little frustrated underachiever locked in his mom's closet screaming for help and trying to get out of it.
The above Mod comment was not directed at just one person.
And with less of the little digs
do you seriously believe he'll let it go? lol
He's just another little frustrated underachiever locked in his mom's closet screaming for help and trying to get out of it.
The above Mod comment was not directed at just one person.
freebird
18 Jun 2009
History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]
you kind of sound Polish
You are full of hatred you sons of Hitler :(
you kind of sound Polish
freebird
18 Jun 2009
History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]
technically really not that much of it
most of you you still think Turkey is not in Europe
technically really not that much of it
freebird
18 Jun 2009
Language / Why do you have this weird grammar with y and i? optYka? magazYn? zYsk? why? [30]
I bet he is offensive, :-)
that it the only valid thing you have said so far. Sorry:).
I bet he is offensive, :-)
freebird
18 Jun 2009
History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]
why would they be lying on the floor? lol
but I'm sure they all were just lying on the floor and resting
why would they be lying on the floor? lol
freebird
18 Jun 2009
History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]
and even if you did, nothing's wrong with it. Who cares :-)
Check the thread man im not revitalising it
and even if you did, nothing's wrong with it. Who cares :-)
freebird
18 Jun 2009
History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]
you know how to keep it going too, lol.
you know how to keep it going too, lol.
freebird
18 Jun 2009
History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]
I never said all, you are
We are all communist
I never said all, you are
freebird
18 Jun 2009
History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]
Why the hell even continue with this and most of the other threads on this forum. They will shut it down whenever it becomes uncomfortable for Poles just like they did shut down my thread. Ridiculous understanding of democracy by most of you Poles, unfortunitely.
Not at all. It will be shut down when it becomes ridiculously off-topic, boring or repetitive either within itself or another thread. Remember, the OP is responsible for keeping it on topic. Don't just post and disappear.
Why the hell even continue with this and most of the other threads on this forum. They will shut it down whenever it becomes uncomfortable for Poles just like they did shut down my thread. Ridiculous understanding of democracy by most of you Poles, unfortunitely.
Not at all. It will be shut down when it becomes ridiculously off-topic, boring or repetitive either within itself or another thread. Remember, the OP is responsible for keeping it on topic. Don't just post and disappear.
freebird
17 Jun 2009
History / Poland before WWII or Poland now what would you choose? [390]
I disagree with this point. Like I said, we've learned different history and I assume you're Polish so automatically you can't switch off your emotions when it comes to historical facts connected with your country. I observed this many times, not only on this forum that it's almost impossible to discuss certain subjects with Poles especially when it's about Polish-German or Polish-Russian history. When I first created this thread, all my hope was that maybe the new generation of Poles has changed and that an open discussion will be possible without dropping the level of our conversation. I'm not necessarily talking about you even tho you show the same tendency as few other PF members with the difference that you're trying to discuss and not cuss which makes it more acceptable.
Have a good 1
It was originally Polish,
I disagree with this point. Like I said, we've learned different history and I assume you're Polish so automatically you can't switch off your emotions when it comes to historical facts connected with your country. I observed this many times, not only on this forum that it's almost impossible to discuss certain subjects with Poles especially when it's about Polish-German or Polish-Russian history. When I first created this thread, all my hope was that maybe the new generation of Poles has changed and that an open discussion will be possible without dropping the level of our conversation. I'm not necessarily talking about you even tho you show the same tendency as few other PF members with the difference that you're trying to discuss and not cuss which makes it more acceptable.
Have a good 1
freebird
17 Jun 2009
History / Poland before WWII or Poland now what would you choose? [390]
I believe you misunderstood him, what he said is that hanse was founded in Luebeck Germany. Someone earlier was saying that hanse is from northern Europe but not from Germany, that's it.
I believe you misunderstood him, what he said is that hanse was founded in Luebeck Germany. Someone earlier was saying that hanse is from northern Europe but not from Germany, that's it.
freebird
17 Jun 2009
History / Poland before WWII or Poland now what would you choose? [390]
did he say that? lol
So you mean that if Norway didn't expulse the Hansaets in Bergen it would been German?
did he say that? lol
freebird
17 Jun 2009
History / Poland before WWII or Poland now what would you choose? [390]
I don't have any problem with Poland or Polish-German border now, it's about history of both countries and admitting certain historical facts.
This is what you've learned about it, it's fine with me as long as you accept the fact that there are other people who have completely different opinion about it.
the modern day borders were drawn up by Stalin not the Polish people
I don't have any problem with Poland or Polish-German border now, it's about history of both countries and admitting certain historical facts.
I believe Poland always had the right to the Danzig/Gdansk corridor.
This is what you've learned about it, it's fine with me as long as you accept the fact that there are other people who have completely different opinion about it.
freebird
17 Jun 2009
History / Poland before WWII or Poland now what would you choose? [390]
nope, not at all
the truth
thank you ironside
agree but as a minority
from the beginning on Danzig was German with 300 years of Polish
influence in between
definitely not
never
Germans had it from the beginning on, you had only your 300 years period, that's it
no one lies better than you guys. You're known in the entire World for twisting historical facts
look in the mirror, moron is what you see or you can't stand to look at your lying a** anymore
you wish you've learned just a little bit of what I know you dumb pollack (you got this crap started, you get it back the way you deserve it).
There are Poles and "pollacks", you definitely belong to the second category.
I told you, you had your 300 years in Danzig you dummy
After and before this time there wasn't even one coin with Polish king
on it
I ignore your sources because they ain't right. I can present at least one website against every one of yours but what is it gonna change, nothing because you're brainwashed by your ex system even if it's maybe only due to your parents who still sympathize with communism at home.
that's it
and still do in Europe. Lost both WWI and WWII and being #4 richest country in the World. What does it tell you, you "wise sokrates" What have you achieved in that time? Yes you're achieving now a little but only with the cash floating from western Europe.
please don't BB, he already looks like a elementary school student who's been put by his parents in the closet and now is screeming, please let me out. Too much freedom too quick. Now he doesn't know what to do with it and just keeps running his mouth because he can, because he's free and not because he really has something to say, idiot.
no problem withy this statement
I will tell you something freebird I know more about history then you ever will!
nope, not at all
I don't know what you are trying to prove here ?
the truth
YES! BEFORE 1945 DISCUSSED LANDS WERE GERMAN!
thank you ironside
although there were population of Scots and Poles and others as Kingdom was multi ethnic)
agree but as a minority
became German in the years after 1793
from the beginning on Danzig was German with 300 years of Polish
influence in between
but about historical rights and according to that Poland had rights to Gdansk!
definitely not
most of Gdańsk development was our job
never
Germans came and took over an already developed city.
Germans had it from the beginning on, you had only your 300 years period, that's it
We've built Gdańsk, we've developed it, you came relatively late and took it over, selling Gdańsk as a German success is a blatant chauvinistic lie.
no one lies better than you guys. You're known in the entire World for twisting historical facts
moron,
look in the mirror, moron is what you see or you can't stand to look at your lying a** anymore
you just learned something you little redneck
you wish you've learned just a little bit of what I know you dumb pollack (you got this crap started, you get it back the way you deserve it).
There are Poles and "pollacks", you definitely belong to the second category.
Anything else you want to learn or do you prefer to stay in your little barn and continue to spam idiocy?
I told you, you had your 300 years in Danzig you dummy
After and before this time there wasn't even one coin with Polish king
on it
you ignore the sources
I ignore your sources because they ain't right. I can present at least one website against every one of yours but what is it gonna change, nothing because you're brainwashed by your ex system even if it's maybe only due to your parents who still sympathize with communism at home.
Danzig got rich because of being a member of the Hanse (not a polish invention either).
that's it
It was Germans who get things done! :)
and still do in Europe. Lost both WWI and WWII and being #4 richest country in the World. What does it tell you, you "wise sokrates" What have you achieved in that time? Yes you're achieving now a little but only with the cash floating from western Europe.
Wanna compare the lists of famous german and famous polish Danziger Sokrates???
please don't BB, he already looks like a elementary school student who's been put by his parents in the closet and now is screeming, please let me out. Too much freedom too quick. Now he doesn't know what to do with it and just keeps running his mouth because he can, because he's free and not because he really has something to say, idiot.
It's not all Polish but it belongs to Poland now and they get to keep it :D
no problem withy this statement
freebird
16 Jun 2009
History / Poland before WWII or Poland now what would you choose? [390]
I know history of Danzig and I know that it had a Polish period for about 300 years but people still spoke German (population was mainly German) in that time so I don't think that this will make any change in what I said before.
As far as Lithuania and Poland, I suggest you ask Lithuanians how they feel about it but those few Lithuanians I've met didn't like Poles very much. I guess they must have their reasons.
I know history of Danzig and I know that it had a Polish period for about 300 years but people still spoke German (population was mainly German) in that time so I don't think that this will make any change in what I said before.
As far as Lithuania and Poland, I suggest you ask Lithuanians how they feel about it but those few Lithuanians I've met didn't like Poles very much. I guess they must have their reasons.
freebird
16 Jun 2009
History / Poland before WWII or Poland now what would you choose? [390]
FOR REAL :-)
what about it pp?
how about tomorrow:)
FOR REAL :-)
what about the Polish Lithuanian commonwealth?
what about it pp?
freebird
16 Jun 2009
History / Poland before WWII or Poland now what would you choose? [390]
PP what are you talking about? Scroll up and see what I wrote about Danzig etc. Did I say that Poles supposed to give it back to the Germans? Did I PP? All I asked for is you guys to admit that these territories weren't Polish before 1945, that's it.
this is not about obsession, it's about history PP
If you are going to give places to people based on this line of reasoning US would lose a lot of land.
PP what are you talking about? Scroll up and see what I wrote about Danzig etc. Did I say that Poles supposed to give it back to the Germans? Did I PP? All I asked for is you guys to admit that these territories weren't Polish before 1945, that's it.
We need to stop obsessing
this is not about obsession, it's about history PP
freebird
16 Jun 2009
History / Poland before WWII or Poland now what would you choose? [390]
you already said it PlasticPole and I answered it too
show where I complained about illegal Mexaicans on this forum, just for the hell of it :-)
be honest, you don't believe it yourself :-)
US to give a lot of land back to Mexico
you already said it PlasticPole and I answered it too
or at least quit complaining about illegal immigration because the Mexicans
show where I complained about illegal Mexaicans on this forum, just for the hell of it :-)
Oh the teritory at the time was in reality Prussian, the city of Gdańsk however was Polish,
be honest, you don't believe it yourself :-)
freebird
16 Jun 2009
History / Poland before WWII or Poland now what would you choose? [390]
you better say, I don't know the history you know (you learned your history in Poland, I didn't) and I might agree with that but if you're trying to ridicule me, you ain't gonna get anywhere with that crap and just make yourself look, let's say, not very smart to keep it nice with you.
because according to what I've learned and experienced about it those territories belong to Germany.
Just show me Polish word on any coin from Free City of Danzig, you can't.
Why there's almost no Polish names in Danzig's history?
Why so many houses in Danzig have German writings on it even tho
they were beautifuly restored by Polish restorers?
It's so many why, why, why aso.
yep, a very important historical fact
yep, the warm hearted Poles :-) Just like they (with their friends the Soviets) never raped and killed German women on the way to Berlin.
How can you love history if you dont know it?:)
you better say, I don't know the history you know (you learned your history in Poland, I didn't) and I might agree with that but if you're trying to ridicule me, you ain't gonna get anywhere with that crap and just make yourself look, let's say, not very smart to keep it nice with you.
You're claiming that Germans have rights to historically Polish or Czech regions?:)))))))
because according to what I've learned and experienced about it those territories belong to Germany.
Just show me Polish word on any coin from Free City of Danzig, you can't.
Why there's almost no Polish names in Danzig's history?
Why so many houses in Danzig have German writings on it even tho
they were beautifuly restored by Polish restorers?
It's so many why, why, why aso.
Sokrates, you haven't refuted what I put to you. Namely that Bolesław Chrobry didn't win the territory in AD 997. He fought for it but the Prussians were just too strong and they didn't relinquish control.
yep, a very important historical fact
Poles didnt conquer Prussia because they were unwilling to commit genocide.
yep, the warm hearted Poles :-) Just like they (with their friends the Soviets) never raped and killed German women on the way to Berlin.
freebird
16 Jun 2009
History / Poland before WWII or Poland now what would you choose? [390]
I tell you something PlasticPole. I'm a numismatist (I'm collecting old coins, especially the ones from Danzig) so obviously it means I love history and I read many books about my favorite subject and after what I have read about it and also after what I have experienced on my own visiting both countries Poland and Germany, I'm absolutely convinced that the territories I've mentioned above rightly belong to Germany. What I'm not saying is that Poles have to give it back to the Germans. I'm not expecting you guys to share my opinion, all I want from Poles is to admit that these territories used to be German and at the same time I want you to enjoy this beautiful piece of land being Polish now. What's so tough about that? I mean you have it, no one will take it away from you, just admit that before 1945 it wasn't yours. It's like winning a $1000.oo from you playing poker. You had the money and I won it so it's mine now. Simple is that.
I tell you something PlasticPole. I'm a numismatist (I'm collecting old coins, especially the ones from Danzig) so obviously it means I love history and I read many books about my favorite subject and after what I have read about it and also after what I have experienced on my own visiting both countries Poland and Germany, I'm absolutely convinced that the territories I've mentioned above rightly belong to Germany. What I'm not saying is that Poles have to give it back to the Germans. I'm not expecting you guys to share my opinion, all I want from Poles is to admit that these territories used to be German and at the same time I want you to enjoy this beautiful piece of land being Polish now. What's so tough about that? I mean you have it, no one will take it away from you, just admit that before 1945 it wasn't yours. It's like winning a $1000.oo from you playing poker. You had the money and I won it so it's mine now. Simple is that.
freebird
16 Jun 2009
History / Poland before WWII or Poland now what would you choose? [390]
you mean like the rights for Germans to claim Danzig, Ostpreussen,
Pommern and Schlesien?
you're absolutely right about that :-)
Should admit that such right exists ))))))))
Because its true !
Because its true !
you mean like the rights for Germans to claim Danzig, Ostpreussen,
Pommern and Schlesien?
But the new areas gained from the Germans had better infrastructure and more industry
you're absolutely right about that :-)
freebird
15 Jun 2009
History / Poland before WWII or Poland now what would you choose? [390]
I told you "ironside the brave" will be back, he just can't quit "fighting" and making himself look worse than ever before.
You see ironside, I gave you a chance for normal conversation just a second ago (look above) but you obviously refused it. You don't deserve a second chance.
To be continued after the break, lol
Ironside
I told you "ironside the brave" will be back, he just can't quit "fighting" and making himself look worse than ever before.
You see ironside, I gave you a chance for normal conversation just a second ago (look above) but you obviously refused it. You don't deserve a second chance.
To be continued after the break, lol
freebird
15 Jun 2009
History / Poland before WWII or Poland now what would you choose? [390]
how much more explanation do you need Ironside? I've been saying over and over again how I feel about things and presenting websites to back up my point but you guys kept coming back with your bull**it and tried to ridicule me just because I disagree with the way you both think about Polish and German history. If you both kept our discussion on acceptable level, we wouldn't have to run this battle.
explanation
how much more explanation do you need Ironside? I've been saying over and over again how I feel about things and presenting websites to back up my point but you guys kept coming back with your bull**it and tried to ridicule me just because I disagree with the way you both think about Polish and German history. If you both kept our discussion on acceptable level, we wouldn't have to run this battle.
freebird
15 Jun 2009
History / Poland before WWII or Poland now what would you choose? [390]
actually only you and the wiseman
please don't, waste of time
yes it will be because you're just a little "brave ironside" who can't change his attitude. Ironside the fighter, lol.
It won't take long and your smart brother sokrates will join you in this hopeless for you both fight so carry on you brothers in arms.
And what make matters worse you lecture others how stupid they are
actually only you and the wiseman
(I think later)
please don't, waste of time
There no more from me!
yes it will be because you're just a little "brave ironside" who can't change his attitude. Ironside the fighter, lol.
It won't take long and your smart brother sokrates will join you in this hopeless for you both fight so carry on you brothers in arms.
freebird
15 Jun 2009
History / Poland before WWII or Poland now what would you choose? [390]
I told you before my "wise sokrates", I don't expect anything what I said, say or will say to be obvious to anyone of you guys. How could I dare to expect it from sokrates the wise and ironside the brave? lol
Nothing you wrote is obvious
I told you before my "wise sokrates", I don't expect anything what I said, say or will say to be obvious to anyone of you guys. How could I dare to expect it from sokrates the wise and ironside the brave? lol
freebird
15 Jun 2009
History / Poland before WWII or Poland now what would you choose? [390]
are you saying you disagreeing with something obvious? lol
does it mean that loughing at you guys can make me sick? OK, it does hurt my belly from time to time, lol.
))))))
are you saying you disagreeing with something obvious? lol
keep laughing all the time and don't forget your medications!
does it mean that loughing at you guys can make me sick? OK, it does hurt my belly from time to time, lol.
freebird
15 Jun 2009
History / Poland before WWII or Poland now what would you choose? [390]
you wish your "gibberish" was as good as mine
Like I told you, you're a joke "sokrates the great" "sokrates the wise"
lmao
exactly, this is what I'm saying, you wise sokrates. Quit acting like an idiot sokrates and I might change my opinion about you.
well, something positive about our conversation, you don't understand me (and not only me) most of times but it makes you happy. Everyone deserves to be happy at least sometimes. You guys (sokrates obviously too) keep me loughing all the time and I'm seriously grateful for that :-)
gibberish
you wish your "gibberish" was as good as mine
Like I told you, you're a joke "sokrates the great" "sokrates the wise"
lmao
if you act like an idiot be prepared to being treated as one.
exactly, this is what I'm saying, you wise sokrates. Quit acting like an idiot sokrates and I might change my opinion about you.
you make me laugh )))))))
well, something positive about our conversation, you don't understand me (and not only me) most of times but it makes you happy. Everyone deserves to be happy at least sometimes. You guys (sokrates obviously too) keep me loughing all the time and I'm seriously grateful for that :-)
freebird
15 Jun 2009
History / Russia: Poland responsible for WW II [300]
who did this "advanced work on archeology", Poles?
of course or you believe that just because you named yourself "Sokrates" it makes you automatically as smart as he was? you're a joke.
advanced as works on archeology
who did this "advanced work on archeology", Poles?
but you still clinged to your silly little opinions :))
of course or you believe that just because you named yourself "Sokrates" it makes you automatically as smart as he was? you're a joke.
freebird
15 Jun 2009
History / Poland before WWII or Poland now what would you choose? [390]
you see, you've spent so much money for language schools in Poland and you still haven't learned anything, too bad. Something's telling me that actually it's your limited ability to learn and not the schools fault.
why, because I'm saying what for many people on this forum is already obvious or it should be at least? lol.
What a heck are you talking about?
you see, you've spent so much money for language schools in Poland and you still haven't learned anything, too bad. Something's telling me that actually it's your limited ability to learn and not the schools fault.
You do realise you humiliate yourself with every such post? :)))
why, because I'm saying what for many people on this forum is already obvious or it should be at least? lol.