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wzgrza   
18 Sep 2009
News / Poland Rejects US Missile Shield (talks will continue...) [80]

Typical Polish belief. Just because you need a visa you feel like a begger. There were visas to Poland, did we feel like beggers? We could care less,

This may go over your head, but this would be sending a sign, that nobody is going to bend over here, without getting anything in return. It is a two way road. The point is not whether you care or not at all. Hardly meet any Americans who know where Poland is.. much less yet go there.

Why do the Poles feel like they have to be bigger and better than everyone else? Why you trying to come here anyway? And once you're here, all you care about is how much money you make. That's what America is to Poland, MONEY.

Bigger and better then everyone else? By wanting to be treated fairly? Seems you don't know what you are on about. Don't know if you have been paying attention, but money is what makes the world go round, ESPECIALLY in the good ol' U.S.A. And that's what America is to ANY fresh immigrants (including your ancestors) is MONEY!! You talk like this fact is a shock or surprise to you.

You come here and don't obey the rules, (you make your own rules) and cheat and lie just to get ahead. Poles give a bad image in America by walking around drunk, stealing and lying and act like they are better because they came to America.

Everything you say here is driven by your clear dislike of Poles (or what at least seems like). Millions of Poles came here with nothing in hand, and worked their way up to having a home and putting their kids through school, and starting from scratch a new, normal life. So please don't mix up your relatives, and friends with the Polish population in the U.S. Way to generalize (an unfair and wrong generalization at that) an entire nationality.

And the INS does have information on the illegals, except they hide all over Chicago and can't find them.

[quote]Look what's happening in England? They can't stand you there

Just like in any other country where there is an influx of foreigners. Remember the Irish and NYC way back when?

Besides, the English in Poland arent necessarily looked upon favorably by the Polish, either.
wzgrza   
18 Sep 2009
News / Poland Rejects US Missile Shield (talks will continue...) [80]

This was in the 1800s ..when there were all kinds of jobs. That's over now. The gravy train is closed. Here's an amazing concept, stay home in Poland and grow your own economy?? I don't know, rely on yourselves???

This has absolutly nothing to do with what I said. Wooosshhh.

Poles should be the least bit of your worries if you are worried about immigration. Poles don't come here like they used to anyways. Rightfully so.

Of those "wow 2,500 soldiers" that you speak of many have died for your little wars. But there you go a sentance later talking about your skulls knocking around on the bottom of the North Atlantic. I guess American lives are much more valubale.

Thank you? And you lot talk about how we think the world owes us something. hahah
wzgrza   
18 Sep 2009
News / Poland Rejects US Missile Shield (talks will continue...) [80]

Quick question: Do you feel that Muslim fanatics are of no threat to modern day Europeans?
Maybe it's not such a silly little war. It's just silly to you.

Muslim fanatics have been around for YEARS, and will continue to exist, regardless of your occupation of Afghanistan (which is not the only terrorist hot-spot out there). The Taliban is gaining strength, and al-Qaeda is much stronger then "Operation Enduring Freedom" planned it on being.. seems there is a lot of work that still needs to be done there, a real zoo, and you need all the help you can get. ;)

Afghanistan ; which you will likely back out of with time anyways, and it will become another lost war, like Vietnam.. with less casualties.. at least on the Allied side)

Like I said we can probably "pay" you for your service. You only need to tell us you want to be paid. We will pay you .. and then you can show it to "old Europe" and maybe they'll be appeased for 10 minutes. ..

You make Polands role in Afghanistan seem so insignificant, yet apparently your government doesnt seem to think so. Your government can barely show any gratitude, much less yet going to "pay" us for anything.

And then you reveal yourselves as nothing but the little money grubbing fools that you probably are. Krysia's observations were probably built upon experience. I know my own are.

If your observations are built off of experience, then you must be a real low-life that these are the types of people you affiliate yourself with, and yet whats worse is it seems you allowed them to take advantage of you at one point too... each stick has two ends.

You got that right, slick. Dog chasing his tail is what you are. Go get em' dog

Seems I have struck a nerve with you. I always know it when these take a personal twist. You had no idea what I was even refering to, now realise I had a point and you feel stupid that it in fact did go over your head. It's ok though, nobody here really knows who you are ;)

Heres another question, if you think so poorly of Poles, why are you even on this forum?
wzgrza   
22 Sep 2009
News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]

Or would you like to try and claim that Poles do not often have the unfortunate habit of lying about historical facts? I somehow doubt that even you would like to take such a foolish position.

Most of you lot fail to know the facts, especially when it comes to Poland during the WWII era, and in many cases upon being informed of said facts by Poles, you accuse Poles of telling lies, and trying to glorify Poland. Not the first, or the last time I have seen this.

When a Pole speaks up, and tries to point out the achievments of Poland, and looks for a bit or recognition, and states FACTS, which to the westerners are often UNPLEASANT from our side about the war, he is shot down and labeled as lieing about facts, and trying to glorify Poland. Maybe because some of these events take away from the percieved glory about our great "allies". For example a clear betrayal is constantly rationalized (a self defense mechanism) as we did all we could, and went to war because of Poland! (now projecting blame on Poland for their entry to the war, another self defense mechanism). *enter some baton accusing me of victimizing Poland* Yet everytime there is a thread about Poland and some of the great things they achieved, shortly after there is someone else trying to downplay that achievement. Or hell, even if there is a thread about the start of the war there is always some typical bloke who makes a dumb comment to instigate the topic and put Poland down, before a Pole even mentions anything about Poland and what happened there.

But yet it's fvcking ok with you lot to talk about how great the U.S and the U.K was from sunrise to sunset. Fvcking typical western double standards, God forbid anybody tries to take any of your steam away from you.

And if you are in your post refering to one individual, then kindly make that known, and avoid calling all Poles liars about history. Because in my experience if anybody is telling lies, and denying facts, and twisting history about Poland during WWII, or WWII, is your types.

And this post is not only directed towards you. But also not directed to all western types. I will not generalize like you did, as we have many friends from the west that we can come to terms and common ground with.
wzgrza   
23 Sep 2009
News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]

(with the exception of the "all western types" comment - there ARE folks here in the US who are both aware of and appreciate the Polish contribution to WW2, just want to make that clear)

*"But also NOT directed to all western types." :)
wzgrza   
25 Sep 2009
History / Polish contribution to England during war [62]

What I will probably never fully understand is, why all this seems to be so important to Polish people (or should I say Polish politicians?) almost 65 years after the end of WW2. Like ANZAC Day at home - never got it why anyone would give a hoot about this stinking part of history. Remembering? Yes! Living in the past? No!

Some people like to remember history and discuss it?

I could say every single time I hear a Brit talk about WWII, "Why don't these guys get on with it, and stop living in the past on how great the RAF was during WWII, remember it sure.. but constantly talk about it, NO!". You think Brits don't keep bringing up WWII, and WWII related topics? Maybe not on this forum obviously, but there are many others out there.

You guys notice it and for some reason it bothers you when a Pole does it, yet when a Brit does the same thing you probably wouldnt even notice, as a matter of fact join in on the convo.

Would you say the same thing if an American started a thread "If the U.S didnt enter the war, would the allies have won?".
wzgrza   
25 Sep 2009
History / Polish contribution to England during war [62]

See above. We're on a Polish forum, so yes, in this case I'm questioning the Polish obsession with the past.

I don't think there is anything to get worked up about. Some people like to discuss it, yes the same thing over and over again. Most of these threads are started by different people, and it seems to be a popular subject. Point is, it has nothing to do with being Polish, and nothing to do with living in the past. For those who like to look back on history, it is a debate. On a topic to which in Polands case the consequences of the outcome affect life directly in Poland today. Also some of the issues are still current issues being looked into.