UK, Ireland / What is the british obsession with Polish workers [39]


I think thats actually been proven.


Pack it in with the BS one liner, the only reason why poles are here is because they are cheap labour, how else do you think companies have been posting record profits over the last 5-6 years. Tell me something if your so sure of it, why does my line of work pay 40% less than 5-6 years ago?.


haha your so full of sh!t i can smell it through my laptop, so who do you think was doing the job before the poles came??? and if you think living on benefits is so good why don't you give it ago because you might find that its not quite what its hyped up to be.

UK, Ireland / What is the british obsession with Polish workers [39]


The answer is in there, it was a few polish people and not millions.


Stop it wroclaw your hurting my ribs, the establishment yes but not the people.


Your just thinking about it from your perspective, just because you want to come here or you like it doesn't mean that we want you here or like you coming here. Basically you don't care because your lining your pockets so its a win win situation for you.

Yes we do criticize africans and asians its just that we wouldn't go around telling immigrants about other immigrants because that wouldn't be to clever would it.

You aslo answered part of your question, you said you get on with most english people.
Theres a difference between getting on with someone and being friends with someone.

UK, Ireland / Poles returning to the UK [33]


I dont see how that is a boost for the economy.

Yes poles work other people, many of which are sitting at home at the moment costing the country millions because there isn't enough jobs out there.

The unemployment in my area is near 8% so there is no need for anymore workers which is similiar to many big cities.

UK, Ireland / Exploiting Polish Workers by the UK businesses [90]


Maybe someone gave her the wrong idea about England, funny to hear though.


First i have heard but if it were true it shows that they are striving to be good politician :D


Lets go back to the part where she decided to leave for the UK, having no desire to learn any english (trust me when i tell you i have met a few that are the same) is her fault and not anyone else's. Nobody will change to accommodate you because it doesn't work like that, not even in poland.


I don't want to drag this down to yet another debate on immigration but many problems like the bin strikes do spur from it. All the companies are taking advantage of the excess of labour to force people into accepting lower standards and pay, in essence it gives them more leverage because you have to like it or lump it because they can always get someone to fill your shoes.

UK, Ireland / Poles returning to the UK [33]


Please care to exaggerate.

UK, Ireland / Exploiting Polish Workers by the UK businesses [90]


So why did she come if she couldn't understand English or be bothered to learn it?.

UK, Ireland / English people attitude towards Poles? [761]


Because they don't hear it.


No I would respect what the real people of that country wanted and go home.

UK, Ireland / Exploiting Polish Workers by the UK businesses [90]


Lets be honest here no one likes any politician but people will always vote for who they think will represent them the best.


Maybe because thats what their pi**ed off about.

UK, Ireland / Exploiting Polish Workers by the UK businesses [90]


So every person that is pissed of with immigration is a BNP member?.


Yes you have a point about their honesty.


Its impossible to be wrong about everything.


They knew full well how many would come but it was all part of the secret policy of flooding britain with immigrants. And before you go calling me some whacko it was a labour politician that blew the whistle on his party over their secret immigration policy.

UK, Ireland / English people attitude towards Poles? [761]


Yes that is why, still i thinks its absolutely stupid to have classed the word paki as racist unless it was accompanied by abusive or foul language because it doesn't relate to colour or race, just nationality. A complete over reaction in an effort to please a group of people that at the time were not welcome or wanted in Britain, saying that with the current uproar over immigration isn't it just a little bit of history repeated?.

On that note would you let someone into your house that the rest of your family didn't like because i sure as hell wouldn't.


Well iam not being responsible for the actions of someone before me otherwise i would be hating every country in the world for the actions of their ancestors.


Well you wouldn't Mister H because in my view you are ever so politically correct on these issues, as it was said before no hate was meant.


hehe nice one shellys :D

UK, Ireland / English tossers give Brits a bad name in Poland [139]


I am the opposite but i don't go to the areas that are well know for trouble.

UK, Ireland / English people attitude towards Poles? [761]

Yes i would agree with you that the word n*gg*r is racist because it can be said to any black person and doesn't refer to anything other than their skin colour.

If it wasn't for all the racial hatred that was directed towards pakistanis when they first came all those years ago then i doubt the word paki would be deemed racist or derogative.

UK, Ireland / English tossers give Brits a bad name in Poland [139]


Can i ask why you posted that link :-/


I would say you were right.

UK, Ireland / I'm turning nationalistic. Want to change my views. [14]

Well james maybe you should take some time to think about why you have come to this point, i wouldn't go accepting any advice on the matter because people will only want to change your mind to what they think it should be.

There is no better judgement than your own.

UK, Ireland / English tossers give Brits a bad name in Poland [139]

Thats very true but he doesn't rule he only leads the government many of which are English and if he loses their support he is gone.

UK, Ireland / English people attitude towards Poles? [761]

Its all about how its said and not about me having my way, i wouldn't mind aussies referring to me as a pommie if it wasn't always brought up in a situation that involved hatred.

Everyone i know refers to our local shop as "the paki shop" and there is no hatred in that whatsoever.

UK, Ireland / English tossers give Brits a bad name in Poland [139]


Wow the main UK parliament happens to be situated in England, well it had to be somewhere didn't it. It still represents all of the United Kingdom. If your implying that somehow gordon brown rules over England then your very wrong because he is only the head of government and not the government, democracy springs to mind.


You, me and anyone else that doesn't like it.

UK, Ireland / English people attitude towards Poles? [761]


I don't care how they see it, that doesn't make it racist because they don't like people shortening the word. I dont like the word pommie but the aussies think its fine to call me one, its only deemed racist in australia if it has abusive or foul language attached to it.

UK, Ireland / English tossers give Brits a bad name in Poland [139]


Get your facts straight, there is no government of england because it was never devolved.
And before you go hyping them up the devolved governments only govern local issues while the parliament of the united kingdom governs all the areas and retains many powers over them all. In other words they are second to the parliament at Westminster and thats a fact whether we like it or not.


Read further up the page

UK, Ireland / English people attitude towards Poles? [761]


Says you which means jack. It takes no extra effort to britsh but many people says "brits" but you wont see everyone crying racist will you. Just because someone chooses to shorten a word is no basis at all to call them racist.

UK, Ireland / English tossers give Brits a bad name in Poland [139]


ffs seanus, high or low they are still only part of the parliament of the united kingdom.


regarding their behaviour, yes they are the same. READ THE QUOTE!

UK, Ireland / English people attitude towards Poles? [761]


Well i take it the PM wasn't to friendly which is understandable.


Exactly, there is nothing racist about calling someone a paki its just that the law says it can be classed as racist. Everyone calls polish people poles and not a word is mentioned. Add abusive language to the word paki and i suppose it becomes a different matter.


Theres alot of truth in that statement, the majority of them to tend to work harder but its obvious why when they are paid four to five times more than they would be paid in poland.

This is great for the companies that are cashing in on the cheap labour but the ordinary people don't benefit at all.

UK, Ireland / English tossers give Brits a bad name in Poland [139]


i was referring to the story that shelleys posted regarding the two polish murderers.


Yeh scottish, coming from scotland that happens to be part of the UK so it comes as no surprise that they are part of the UK parliament does it.


BS, brits are all the same its just that the english are noticed more because there are more of us.

UK, Ireland / English tossers give Brits a bad name in Poland [139]


Revenge is sweet


So its ok for you to be a bigot but no one else?.


Richer = yes, smarter = well we are richer aren't we se anus.


Nice one shelley :D


So wheres the proof they are psycho's?. It says nothing about them other than that they are polish (surprise surprise) and that they were drunk. I must say i liked the judges comments "He added that the continued presence of both defendants in this country was "undesirable." I wonder if he said that before or after the trial started.


And you lot don't?


At last someone dares to speak the truth!, well sort of, over-run would have been a bit closer to the truth. You be careful though they might ostracise you for comments like that.

UK, Ireland / English people attitude towards Poles? [761]


Well its quite obvious it doesn't bother you but thats fine, we won't bother trying to change your mind so you just go and sit in the corner on your own.


Yes there has always been problems, so in an effort to improve the areas people are helped back to work and given good jobs that the poles come and take by slipping in the back door thanks to their local friendly agency and proceed to push the wages and conditions down.

I know i've seen it happen three times.


I would stop acting like a tw@t, go back to my own country and accept that it was my fault because i came for the sponge and no one dragged me here in chains.

Then i would proceed to improve my own country instead of expecting that someone else would improve it for me.


large yes, generally liked, well thats not true from what i see and hear but i suppose we all have different experiences.


Can we have another story dad, PLEASE!
You really showing yourself to be a loon now, immigration does not improve an area it just drives it further down. I know of around 5 poor estates in my area, they were rough before but now they are no go areas thanks to the immigrants.

It must be bad because even the trouble makers that were there before have fled :D

UK, Ireland / English people attitude towards Poles? [761]


yes it does sum it up, a coffee poo coloured nation that looks like something out of a supermarket that only stocks one product.
So much for diversity hey!, isn't that at the heart of multiculturalism that all you liberal fanny's support.


And for a good reason, they are proud of what they are and don't feel ashamed to be white. I wouldn't want it any other way and i am proud that my nation at the moment is a majority white and British nation because colour represents alot, its our history, our people, its everything that we have ever achieved and still can.

lets look at japan for instance, do you see the amount of social problems that you see in the UK or america, of course you don't because they are one people and one nation.

Thats what they want and what they have been allowed to have because they don't have an interfering government like we have.
Stop being colour blind.

One last note, pack it in with the gay paragraph at the end of every post.
Normal people are not BNP just because they share some of the same views, why don't you look at the length of time that some of those commenting have been registered and how many times they have posted on the forums.

Can't really imagine the BNP spending that amount of time on a polish forum, can you?

UK, Ireland / English people attitude towards Poles? [761]


I wouldn't be smiling at all if i were you.


Great point shelleys, people only come out with the words BNP or nazi when something is being said that they don't like.


That would be the majority of the population then.


You know jonni if you are not already a politician then i suggest you give it a go because you already sound like one. We don't need immigrants to look after our elderly, all they do is add to the list of people that we will have to look after in the future so it only makes the problem worst.


No we don't, we bloody well don't!. I will never get used nor will i accept it.


great a poo coloured population, if thats what we have to then it will be our downfall and not our future. By the way they are not "British" they are british citizens.


The right kind of immigration is controlled immigration, there are plenty of countries in the world that have that and do very well out of it. We need people to work but what the majority don't want or need is people to stay, a good example that is close to our shores is jersey. To work in jersey you need to apply for a permit which normally lasts 5 years then when it finishes you have to apply again, you can settle but you have to live there for 12 years which is quite difficult because of the permit system but people of the island still want the right to settle after this period to be removed.

UK, Ireland / English people attitude towards Poles? [761]

Like i always said jonny they would return to work for the minimum wage and claim the tax credits, i've noticed the change at my work place because alot of them now are 30+ or have families so they know they can claim benefits.


Well i could quite easily turn that question around and ask you where are the polls to suggest that they are liked. The difference is sonny that my job is to speak to real people all day long, i see them at the weekend all day long, real british people and not the spanners in government or a bunch of pro immigration retards. There isn't a day in my week that goes by where i don't here a comment on immigration that doesn't contain a comment towards polish people. Like i said, real people and real comments.


You just have faith in your own ideals and the ones that are peddled by the government and there side kick, AKA the media.


Yes thats very true they do bring benefits, TO THE FAT CATS. They are the only ones who really benefit from immigration, low pay = bigger profits + it allows them to do what they want because the workers won't kick up a fuss.


The problem is that the majority of people only get to see the polish worker in the UK, so naturally someone that is getting paid 4-5 times more that they would in their own country are going to worker harder. Its all about incentives.

UK, Ireland / English people attitude towards Poles? [761]


Well that depends who you listen to, i bet if the media went around saying they were all gay you would believe it. Yes some may be nazi supporters but i expect they are only there because of some of the policies and not because they really support the BNP.


Well iam sorry to burst your bubble but thats not true, the vast majority of people dislike polish people, the reasons vary but the polite and sometimes friendly person that you see at work for example will most likely harbour some dislike of polish people. It doesn't seem to be confined to working class either, i live in a middle class area and to be honest i've heard so many negative comments that i don't even discuss it anymore because i have heard it so many times before. That is something that i have never seen the media report on.


Its not quite the same, the countries that we move to don't have a welfare system that is as generous as ours. We also tend to move a fair amount of capital with us aswell, this is something that i have never known a polish person to do but i expect they do exist in small numbers.

UK, Ireland / To Brits only trout are not coarse? [18]


We are not weird just because we choose not to eat a certain fish, we are surrounded by what is supposed to be one of the most richest fishing grounds in the world but after all the over fishing by the EU trawlers i doubt the waters are up to much these days.

Being an avid fisherman for many years i have tried many fresh water and salt water fish that you would find in and around the british isles and my verdict would be as follows in regards to fresh water fish.

Perch is not to bad but the species doesn't grow to any great size here because our inland lakes are a fraction of the size of the lakes you would find in north america, pike is nice if it is rolled in seasoned flour but it has to be de-boned properly, Eel is very nice if it is smoked and we do infact sell quite alot of it to the european mainland, trout is nice but it must be fresh and it is classed as game so you must have a separate licence if you wish to fish for it, salmon is nice but i think it is better if it is cooked infront of an open fire as in my opinion smoking it makes the flavour to strong and again it requires a separate licence if you wish to fish for it, grayling is suppose to be o.k but the stocks are way to low and i would seriously harm someone that i saw killing one of these beautiful and rare fish, carp= dont go there and the rest i haven't tried and are not worth trying. If you wish to eat carp then don't try and steal any from the lakes or rivers because if a club member doesn't break your legs then the bailiff will, get yourself onto google and you will find that there are some fish farms that are now farming carp specifically for the polish shops in the uk.