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Ironside   
27 Oct 2009
News / Poland is the most friendly neighbor of Ukraine and Russia - Ukrainian poll ... [132]

I don't, but I find it amusing how you and some others have a discussion about bringing the Ukraine "heim ins Reich" (= Poland).

No comparison to Germany is right.
and if you liked the play, give us a cheer! :)

Hasn't this been discussed in another thread? I thought that the Soviets already paid for the rebuilding... ;)

nope, and by the way do you actually believe that Soviets paid for anything except spy's and western liberals and minority movements ?

It looks like that's already going on.

Vive la procreation!
Fight back scrappy, defend your country with your.... DNA! :P

I-S (procreation - yeah!)
Ironside   
27 Oct 2009
History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]

There's not that much of it but its still worth a fortune or are you just calling for us to steal from them.

its all depend how such transition occurs, if because of mutual agreement there will be compensation or houses build by Poles in the Ukraine.
if by the means of Mars in martial way - they'll get zero!

Those owners are dead and most Poles dont have the proper documents which means every Joe can claim his family was from Lwów.

They have scions don't they and documents are not that important, it could be checked.
Where is a will there is a way!

You realise the immidiate region is populated by 2 milion people? To have Lwów even remotely operational we'd have to uproot valuable personnel (sorry but country rednecks just wont do you need engineers, doctors and others) which would destabilise the countrys economy.

There some Polish people living there as others nationalities, they can stay as can anyone who will apply for citizenship as a Polish national.
There enough people in Poland with education and there educated people abroad .....

You worry too much !

n other words you're advocatting theft, expulsion and racist policies that brought us and Ukrainians to the point of war so many times before, good work champ, i'm glad you're a minority.

What are you blabbing about ?
I propose undone ethnic cleansing and theft done by Soviets and UPA
Ironside   
27 Oct 2009
History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]

No thanks.

you are disgrace....some butler not martial Sarmata

I-S ( phew!)

you can only undo it through another ethnic cleansing and theft!

halo ?
what theft? that property was stolen and if rightful owner retrieve it - that justices, no theft!

I-S ( WTF?)
Ironside   
27 Oct 2009
History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]

So is over 70% of Poles butlers? B

well, its seems that way isn't it?

Face it Iron apart from some fringe wackos like you no one wants Lwów back and historical sentiment is the only thing we have left for it.

The small numbers always govern big numbers hence the name elite .....you may call it as you like :)

I-S (its simple)
Ironside   
28 Oct 2009
History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]

In that case....when does the polish army start marching? ;)

See militaristic nonsense, I'll take our lands back by banks and credit's. Thats how its work nowadays:p

Or maybe when there will be Polish Army and State, not some puppets on the string!

When Ironside orders them to!

always taking obvious path, cannot stop himself babbling away..... Socrates, no wonder they stuffed him with hemlock - so boring.

And what makes You the elite Iron?

Oh I'm not elite as I'm not in power, yet.
What? Everything that you are not and what make you statistical - average:)
On PF most think that you are racist, anti-Semite, homophobic and fascist ....and so on!
And yet, you call me radical - think about it :)
I have a dream..... and you have ....nasty attitude and none self restrain.

I-S ( I know or I don't know;you think that you know)
Ironside   
28 Oct 2009
History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]

You need to have an economic base to project power, we don't.

Isn't it being obvious?

your definition elites are always in power

yes, but is not only attribute of the elite.

Most who?

Ask them, make a thread - it could be educational for you:)

Sjam

Is left wing liberal, who thinks himself Polish but doesn't understand us.

Maregea

He is OK.

i'm radical

No, you only fancy yourself radial and you are babbling average boy:)

you're just being stupid,

Well, thank you:) coming from you is only confirmation that you are clueless:D

you want our former lands back at the expense of our neighbour but you ignore the irreparable damage it would do to our international relations across the board and our economy from within.

You are being silly, our neighbor is in possession of our land on our expense, and .....again ....isn't it just obvious ?
How do you know what would happened if you don't know circumstances of such transition ?As I have said - you think you know.

Stop crying about economy it is significant for people who don't have a clue about economy.

You're basically calling for an action that would damage Poland on every possible field and bring us absolutely nothing.

Logical reasoning is not your cup of tea, isn't it?

i have a grasp on reality

I doubt it:p

moral backbone and am not willing to boot people from their homes

Their homes? Well, its debatable from the moral point of view!
And its not moral backbone it is your skinny ass boy!

but hey you have a dream so i guess thats allright for you to spout idiocy.

There was another man with dream JoshepP, and another in USA in 60's, according to you they were idiots.
Well, maybe nobody is as wise as Socrates.

I-S ( and very good)
Ironside   
28 Oct 2009
History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]

However at present we have no means of aquiring it without damaging our diplomatic standing,

Yes, now!

In other words time have changed and Lwów is no longer Polish, sorry but you gotta live with it and deal with it, most of us do.

I know that:)
You really have a problem with logic - Why would I advocate to take Lwów back if I would have thought that Lwów is Polish?

Who's homes then? Most people dont have the papers to prove their families owned property in Lwów, most of buildings and lands in Lwów were owned by private citizens not by Polish state so you're advocating stealing from Ukrainians.

Do you think that present residents have got documents issued by prewar Polish government?If they do , they can keep their property.
States don't steal they take:P

Well then enlighten us!

Well, We have to prepare ourself on all counts, economical, political and military!
Only strong, vibrant state can successfully take back its lands, it may take years, so what?

n the end Poland would still lose Lwów to Russia, its most developed Western provinces to Germany, become ostracized by Europe at large and ruined by attempting to revive a poor sh*thole that Lwów currently is.

Good planing is the key!
Now Socrates use your brain !
Who is gonna take seriously country, which lost lands being part of it for century's and do not want to take it back ?
What if Germans take back their lands and Ukrainians take Przemysl?
Can you foresee the future ?
The only solution is Poland as a world power and first power in Europe!
To achieve it Poles need to rekindle their lost spirit - to do that they need a dream!
And dream about Lwów is better then most as that land should belong to Poland as it is part of our heritage, more so then other prewar lost territories !

Do you understand now?
Ironside   
28 Oct 2009
News / Poland is the most friendly neighbor of Ukraine and Russia - Ukrainian poll ... [132]

Why not move FORWARD and disprove the common (mis)perception that Poland is a backward-looking country!?

Concise - perception of Poland has nothing to do with reality, so any steps taken in real world to change that perception is a waste of time.

The only thing that can influence shift of perceptions is success and money.
So, talking do not change a thing:)

Ironside, you apply dangerous logic.

Maybe, but knife can be dangerous too, yet knife is most common used tool on the planed.

Why not give Silesia back to Germany?

Well, why not?
I know, do you?

Why not give Palestine their land back while you are at it?

Well, give them back their lands Seanus, I'll not hold you back:P
Ironside   
28 Oct 2009
News / Poland is the most friendly neighbor of Ukraine and Russia - Ukrainian poll ... [132]

I would say that Poland should be quite content with its current borders.

They don't even care ......Lwów major Polish city survived the war almost intact to crumble in the hand of Ukrainians.

You are not barred from visiting Ukraine, you know? ;) ;)

Is that suppose to make me happy?
As a Scot you have no understanding of borders and lost lands :P
Ironside   
29 Oct 2009
Love / Do not marry Polish woman [212]

Yes indeed all those poor peasants living under a loaf of bread a week broke in during the French Revolution

they were mob from Paris not peasants, that is the reason of the welfare state = really rich can keep mob under control.

decapitated the guards,

guards under order not to shoot - very humanitarian indeed.

Indeed they saw, and they were in shock but then that turned into fierce anger and disgust.

Have you been there?
Ironside   
29 Oct 2009
News / JEW YOUTH SHOULD CLEAN UP THEIR ACT IN POLAND [420]

he Jewish meet and greet of the Russian troops in 1939 were mostly

Jewish were building welcoming gate with flowers for invading German army in 1939.

Gross is not historian, he has studied sociology and his book is full of ****!

I-S (phew)
Ironside   
29 Oct 2009
News / Man Why Do People Like PO Instead Of PIS [120]

eside PiS is a socialist party and they social politics are flawed, the fact noticed by a huge number of people.

Socialism like in Europe?
Ironside   
29 Oct 2009
News / Should Poland acquire the atomic bomb? [28]

You bastard!
I console myself by the thought that you had been exposed to radiation and you will soon mutate - and I'll sent you as Poland secret weapon - to rebuild the city!

I-S (wise)
Ironside   
30 Oct 2009
News / Poland is the most friendly neighbor of Ukraine and Russia - Ukrainian poll ... [132]

He wanted to almost fuse Lithuania with Poland, Ironside. That's what I meant.

He wanted to build federation included such nations as Ukrainians, Georgians and Armenians, as for Lithuania he didn't proposed fuse but Lithuania with Wilno as a capital and divided into three cantons with different languages.

It was better deal for Lithuania then anything else (he was Lithuanian himself), without independent Poland is very unlikely that independent Lithuania would existed.

Dmowski on the other hand wanted as much land as would be possible to assimilate various nationalities and ethnicity's.

I-S ( wide off mark )
Ironside   
2 Nov 2009
News / Poland is the most friendly neighbor of Ukraine and Russia - Ukrainian poll ... [132]

his romanticism flew in the face of political developments.

Romanticism? It was sound idea. #

What specific time were you referring to, Ironside?

(1918-1920)

Please let me know your interpretation of the Seimas as it seems to me to be analogous to Rugova claiming to be the PM of Kosovo,

Could you elaborate, I'm not sure what you mean...
Ironside   
2 Nov 2009
News / JEW YOUTH SHOULD CLEAN UP THEIR ACT IN POLAND [420]

Gross is lying according to some

He is not historian in the first place and secondly his story HIS interpretation.

But if they are lying, how come they proceed so very well in their career

That is a very good question sir!
And consequently we can come to two answers.

I have learned that there is still anti-semitism in PL,

Well, if you mean prejudice against Jews, this is mainly provoked by biased and attack on Poland and Poles by certain Jewish groups.

was very busy today)

Hopefully not too busy to think:)
Ironside   
5 Nov 2009
UK, Ireland / Why do Poles come to England? [514]

How about Hitlers attitute to Poles, do you think he would have been satisfied with old territories returned? Surely you remember his attitude to Poles?

After Poles rejected his proposal - of become ally, and corridor compensated by Odessa and attack on Soviets - were the price!
Hitler wanted sort out first France (supported by Britain).
French and British guarantees had the effect that Poland become first meal on Hitlers menu!
French and British had no intension of military support Poland, they sacrificed Poland to buy for themselves one year for preparation to war.
It was cold blooded treason, but I don't blame British , I blame Polish government because they should foreseen it,(even if they knew what honor means).

I-S ( wonders whatever I-S offended in some way G-M)
Ironside   
8 Nov 2009
News / JEW YOUTH SHOULD CLEAN UP THEIR ACT IN POLAND [420]

racist Jews

Is it surprise to you ?
Jews are racists because only Jewish mother make one hundred percent Jew.

I-S (no big deal)

Well, seems I was right that a lot of PF members take you for fascist:)
Ironside   
8 Nov 2009
UK, Ireland / Why do Poles come to England? [514]

Hmm I dont think we left England by the millions though...a few thousand maybe...but nice try :)

Sweet pie, from 120 to 360 thousands British emigrate every year mainly to Australia, New Zealand and Canada, but also to Spain and other European country's( and USA - many illegals).

I understand that influx of Poles into Britain in relatively short span of time is still quite a shock but some balance is needed ..... sometimes .....