Ironside
11 May 2009
Ironside
11 May 2009
News / Does the polish immigration cause the increase of the interest in Poland? [20]
Not at all!
I simply cannot stand generalizations - I mean it's only your point of view.
Who knows what is important or not!?
....and what is that thingy with Nobel Prizes?
Did i offend you Ironside?
Not at all!
I simply cannot stand generalizations - I mean it's only your point of view.
Who knows what is important or not!?
....and what is that thingy with Nobel Prizes?
Ironside
11 May 2009
News / Does the polish immigration cause the increase of the interest in Poland? [20]
You can take all 137 and shove it up ..... !and 12 as well !
137
You can take all 137 and shove it up ..... !and 12 as well !
Ironside
9 May 2009
History / An apology to Poland from Australia [55]
Oh! but it does.
I haven't been to Teatr Żydowski but I think that it puts on plays in Polish and not Yiddish.
Oh! but it does.
Ironside
9 May 2009
News / Abortion - how is the Polish government going to deal with this issue? [273]
If the final decision is her's then it rises some doubts :
- If woman wants to give a birth to the child then father of the said baby should support her and her decision.
- If woman wants to have an abortion then father should also support her decision.
It seems to me that it the order of things there is somthing wrong with secondary role of the male partner in the desicion making, he is expected to go along with whatever female seems fit to be right thing to do!
What if father want to have a child and women don't?
We all know what will happen she'll do whatever she want if so is the case then in my humble opinion if situation is reversed then she can do it what she want but father should not have any obligation as he was against brith of the said baby.
I belive that in the stated above circumstances is more then fair and I don't understand your reservations.
you wonder why rates of abortion have risen when men have your attitude!
If he did not want a child initially, this is a moment when he need to proof that he is a man indeed. Irresponsible cowards don't deserve to be considered to be men. Such individuals should be rejected by society, such reaction would effectively reduce their number.
so should she, but if the final decision is her's then consequences should be her and her alone.
If the final decision is her's then it rises some doubts :
- If woman wants to give a birth to the child then father of the said baby should support her and her decision.
- If woman wants to have an abortion then father should also support her decision.
It seems to me that it the order of things there is somthing wrong with secondary role of the male partner in the desicion making, he is expected to go along with whatever female seems fit to be right thing to do!
What if father want to have a child and women don't?
We all know what will happen she'll do whatever she want if so is the case then in my humble opinion if situation is reversed then she can do it what she want but father should not have any obligation as he was against brith of the said baby.
I belive that in the stated above circumstances is more then fair and I don't understand your reservations.
Ironside
8 May 2009
News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]
Well, isn't that fault of the respective culture, people not having kids and all/
Problem of the imigration should be solved by governments not some KKK like organizations its nutts and is bad idea.
The other issue is government not responding to country needs and taking over and change political system is the right direction to go!
Not at all i'm simply regarding the subject in terms of war, there's the immigrants with their respective culture and religion, their way of life is destroying ours while they're outbreeding us, given their hostility and dysfunctional behavior in our societies we cannot hope that once they become the majority they'll let us go on, when muslims specifically become the majority its not only our way of life but our physical well being thats going to be threatened.
Well, isn't that fault of the respective culture, people not having kids and all/
Problem of the imigration should be solved by governments not some KKK like organizations its nutts and is bad idea.
The other issue is government not responding to country needs and taking over and change political system is the right direction to go!
Ironside
8 May 2009
News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]
Well, you a bit out of your mind , next lunatic on the lose....
The fact is that to deal with these people ugly unethical methods are necesarry (no not genocide) for example promoting one child family model, drug induced infertility and stuff like that but we need justification and with patience on our part they will deliver it, in fact they'll make our liberals see reason by being danger to them as well.
Well, you a bit out of your mind , next lunatic on the lose....
Ironside
7 May 2009
Ironside
7 May 2009
News / Searching for keys in Polish-Russian relations [75]
Having all that and more would be grand but you cannot achive it with the swipe of your magic stick.
Any amount of money will not work because reality bites, ukrainians must sort out themselfs what they want to be and what their interests are!
Care to explain? We have everything to gain by having a democratic Ukraine and everything to lose by letting it slip into Russian grip.
Having all that and more would be grand but you cannot achive it with the swipe of your magic stick.
Any amount of money will not work because reality bites, ukrainians must sort out themselfs what they want to be and what their interests are!
Ironside
7 May 2009
News / Searching for keys in Polish-Russian relations [75]
Yeah? Send them your money not somebody else's .
As for the rest it all look nite in the theory, in practice it looks different.
Yeah? Send them your money not somebody else's .
As for the rest it all look nite in the theory, in practice it looks different.
Ironside
7 May 2009
News / Abortion - how is the Polish government going to deal with this issue? [273]
so should she, but if final decision is her's then consequences should be her and her alone.
he should have thought of this before he fukked her
so should she, but if final decision is her's then consequences should be her and her alone.
Ironside
7 May 2009
News / Abortion - how is the Polish government going to deal with this issue? [273]
Well, you tell us!
So, if father doesn't want a child and woman go for it regardless then I think he should not pay any child support.
I should point out that I don't have a problem with anyones opinion but I wonder why men comment more than women. Thanks. :)
Well, you tell us!
Yes, a wider look I have had but I'm talking about this topic on it's own. More men have an opinion about abortion than women and that's what I wonder about. Ultimately the decision of abortion comes from the woman concerned. If she is in a good relationship then the decision may have been arrived at with her husband or boyfriend but the final decision is hers.
So, if father doesn't want a child and woman go for it regardless then I think he should not pay any child support.
Ironside
7 May 2009
News / Searching for keys in Polish-Russian relations [75]
Do you think that he can do anything even if he is all you think him to be?
Do you think that he can do anything even if he is all you think him to be?
Ironside
6 May 2009
News / Searching for keys in Polish-Russian relations [75]
You are naive, well it's not a crime.
Some are, Sikorski is not the guy is actually quite competent and unlike some *hint* Kaczyńscy, is ready to shelve his anti-russian sentiments so we could talk like people.
You are naive, well it's not a crime.
Ironside
6 May 2009
History / Poland and Ukraine [240]
Where did you find this rubbish? In the UPA booklets "Why Poles are our enemy" or NKVD leaflet "kill pany"?
Because it was part of the Crown and border issue wasn't settlet between Ukraine and Poland but by the arbitrary decision of the one man, Stalin.
What kind of psychobubble is that ?
I can see that you are deeply confused man pawian.
First of all what ukraine, then were and when, and last whats your point.
I can see you are very deep thinker but surely you cannot expect simple mind like myself to understand would care to explain.
You compare Germans and 120years of their rule mainly in the XIX century and 20 years of polish rule in the eastern malopolska.
Well, why not, Poland could surrender after 1 hour and then Germany could build and develop infrastructure in Poland.)0)
What war all Im saying is that Germans want their land back and because as you put it nicely they bulit .......and so on, )Im sure they also printed books you were reading about useless and lazy Poles.
Because we are talking about prewar borders and because contrary to some I recognise existance of the ukrainian nation and polish rights do not extand to all the terrytory of the present ukrainian state.
Blah ablah .............
Do I propose to destroy Ukraine?NO!
Better to be political baby then old fool.
It's all about interest, so Poles should look after their interest and Ukrainian after theirs and if they want polish assistens they should courting us.
Right now, there is some who want to be part of Russia, some who don't care and some who want independent country - let them sort it out by themselfs!
Are you ? After your last post I have my doubts !
Well, what do you know...define civilian!
Do you know that:
youtube.com/watch?v=enVnQgCx5FY
Were are you from?
Secondly, if they can`t govern themselves, it means that Polish pany didn`t teach them that. The only thing Ukrainians were expected by Poles was to labour in the fields, not to participate in governments.
Where did you find this rubbish? In the UPA booklets "Why Poles are our enemy" or NKVD leaflet "kill pany"?
For what reason should they belong to Poland?
Because it was part of the Crown and border issue wasn't settlet between Ukraine and Poland but by the arbitrary decision of the one man, Stalin.
Look honestly at Polish achievements in Ukraine - what are they? Pure exploitation of peasants, that`s all. And don`t tell me about Lvov because it was a multicultural and multiethnic city - there were many minorities which contributed to its greatness. Poles did too but they weren`t alone.
What kind of psychobubble is that ?
I can see that you are deeply confused man pawian.
First of all what ukraine, then were and when, and last whats your point.
OK, even if you persist in taking Lvov as an example of Polish great work in the East, what else? Nothing. Look at Germans and what they did in their partition zone which is in Poland today - they built and developed infrastructure, railways, roads, facilities, cities, which stand till today and are used by Poles in 21 century.
I can see you are very deep thinker but surely you cannot expect simple mind like myself to understand would care to explain.
You compare Germans and 120years of their rule mainly in the XIX century and 20 years of polish rule in the eastern malopolska.
Hey, man, what are you talking about? Are you talking about war with Germany??? :):):)
Well, why not, Poland could surrender after 1 hour and then Germany could build and develop infrastructure in Poland.)0)
What war all Im saying is that Germans want their land back and because as you put it nicely they bulit .......and so on, )Im sure they also printed books you were reading about useless and lazy Poles.
But why do you limit your demands to Ukraine only? Why not take all lands which once were under Polish Lithuanian rule? Especially those in today`s Russia, and the Baltics and Belarus. And keep the ex-German lands too? Don`t you think it would be great to have Great Poland?
Because we are talking about prewar borders and because contrary to some I recognise existance of the ukrainian nation and polish rights do not extand to all the terrytory of the present ukrainian state.
And I provided such a map because there aren`t any other available. Luckily ... :):):) it means most Poles are fairly reasonable and they realise that Ukraine seperates us from Russia which has always been an imperial state with a tendency to spread its borders and influence. Russian average people are great, I love them, but Russian elites have never stopped their desire to revive the old empire, once tsarist, later Soviet. Today it is oligarchic crippled empire but the Russian dream of greatness is still lively.
Blah ablah .............
Do I propose to destroy Ukraine?NO!
That is why Ukraine must remain independent, it is a Polish strategic interest. Poles should do everything to help Ukrainians. Anybody who doesn`t understand it is a political baby. :):):):)
Better to be political baby then old fool.
It's all about interest, so Poles should look after their interest and Ukrainian after theirs and if they want polish assistens they should courting us.
Right now, there is some who want to be part of Russia, some who don't care and some who want independent country - let them sort it out by themselfs!
PS. Ironside, last question. You are not Polish, are you? :):):)
Are you ? After your last post I have my doubts !
Like I said There also Kilings Ukrainians civilins by Polish AK and other military organizations!
Well, what do you know...define civilian!
Do you know that:
youtube.com/watch?v=enVnQgCx5FY
Were are you from?
Ironside
6 May 2009
History / An apology to Poland from Australia [55]
In my humble opinion Australia should offer an apology to Poland because of you Harry.
They medical care is rubbish as they let the dangerus lunatic out !
In my humble opinion Australia should offer an apology to Poland because of you Harry.
They medical care is rubbish as they let the dangerus lunatic out !
Ironside
6 May 2009
News / Searching for keys in Polish-Russian relations [75]
I doubt it politicians in Poland are hopless lot, there are first with obfuscation and last to do something they are paid for to do it!
I hope that it will be fruitful mission.
I doubt it politicians in Poland are hopless lot, there are first with obfuscation and last to do something they are paid for to do it!
Ironside
6 May 2009
History / Poland and Ukraine [240]
You are confused as many people in Poland - What has to do with western border, do you thing that Germans will pity us and will not take back if oportunity arise?
This little map of yours you can ....... is incorrect as I was talking borders from 1939.
Anyways I was talking about terrtories which belong to the Ukraine now.
And naturally, new acquisitions in the West at the cost of Germany should be kept by Poland as well.
You are confused as many people in Poland - What has to do with western border, do you thing that Germans will pity us and will not take back if oportunity arise?
This little map of yours you can ....... is incorrect as I was talking borders from 1939.
Anyways I was talking about terrtories which belong to the Ukraine now.
Ironside
6 May 2009
History / Poland and Ukraine [240]
Whats the point ? You will say NO the Ukraine was there always even in Babylon 1200BC there was an ukrainian king Nathanbuzor!
Or you will start you too, you too..... check your own family for war criminals first!
You understand nothing so all that is pointless!
Thats all no more from me.
Whats the point ? You will say NO the Ukraine was there always even in Babylon 1200BC there was an ukrainian king Nathanbuzor!
Or you will start you too, you too..... check your own family for war criminals first!
You understand nothing so all that is pointless!
Thats all no more from me.
Ironside
6 May 2009
History / Poland and Ukraine [240]
[quote=Nathan]
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You won't acknowledge the true, I don't care, keep your myths and your chauvinistic belives and go back to sleep.
Everyone can see you for what you are ... everything you said and all....
How old are you?
Because if someone speak as an immanture child it is you Nathan - you too, you too.... shove it up your arse you prat.
Im done, no more that pointless thread.
Good night!
[quote=Nathan]
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You won't acknowledge the true, I don't care, keep your myths and your chauvinistic belives and go back to sleep.
Everyone can see you for what you are ... everything you said and all....
How old are you?
Because if someone speak as an immanture child it is you Nathan - you too, you too.... shove it up your arse you prat.
Im done, no more that pointless thread.
Good night!
Ironside
5 May 2009
History / Poland and Ukraine [240]
What do I want? On this thread nothing, it's only talk.
I simply wanted to learn how you think.
You claim to speak for Ukraine yet you live in Canada in the land where after IIww many ukrainian war criminals run away to. Among them were haters which stirret up simple people to commit barbaric atrocitys and prepetrators as well. So I advice you to be carefull from whom you are learning your history.
You are try to justify ethnic cleasining done by your compatriots talking about some injustes your people expirenced from Poles.
You try equal it with thoses massacers it only an idiot or total filth, you spreadng chuav filth all overe this forum and yet you think yourself sane.
You cannot provide single argument only links but you keep ranting for pages with what seems to be diarrhea of the mind.
Land we talked about since middle ages belongs to Poland and was part of the Crown you cannot put it aside, you could claim as well that Provance should not be part of France - good luck!
I belive that after deeds of the part of local population which feel themselfs to be ukrainian it would not be just to grant them land where blood of their innocent victisms sank.
Well, in Moscow was the same family, dynasty, in Kiev later was Lithuanian dynasty, and there was no much continuity but who can tell.
One matter is certain though, whitout imigration from Kingdom of Poland there had been nothing much - almost empty land.
Well, there two sides and I think Hitler wasn't that peacefull at heart!
What do I want? On this thread nothing, it's only talk.
I simply wanted to learn how you think.
You claim to speak for Ukraine yet you live in Canada in the land where after IIww many ukrainian war criminals run away to. Among them were haters which stirret up simple people to commit barbaric atrocitys and prepetrators as well. So I advice you to be carefull from whom you are learning your history.
You are try to justify ethnic cleasining done by your compatriots talking about some injustes your people expirenced from Poles.
You try equal it with thoses massacers it only an idiot or total filth, you spreadng chuav filth all overe this forum and yet you think yourself sane.
You cannot provide single argument only links but you keep ranting for pages with what seems to be diarrhea of the mind.
Land we talked about since middle ages belongs to Poland and was part of the Crown you cannot put it aside, you could claim as well that Provance should not be part of France - good luck!
I belive that after deeds of the part of local population which feel themselfs to be ukrainian it would not be just to grant them land where blood of their innocent victisms sank.
Hmm, what about Bolesław Chrobry who captured Kiev Rus in 1018? Were Kievan Russes of Ukrainian or Russian nationality? Today both Russians and Ukrainians claim that Kiev Rus was their ancestry.
Well, in Moscow was the same family, dynasty, in Kiev later was Lithuanian dynasty, and there was no much continuity but who can tell.
One matter is certain though, whitout imigration from Kingdom of Poland there had been nothing much - almost empty land.
Friends could have talked that over probably...enemies not.
Well, there two sides and I think Hitler wasn't that peacefull at heart!
Ironside
5 May 2009
News / Is Poland ready for the swine fever stuff? [59]
Well, we have swines with fever all the time - politicians!
Well, we have swines with fever all the time - politicians!
Ironside
5 May 2009
History / Poland and Ukraine [240]
This treaty wasn't fair for Germany!
But border with Poland wasn't bad
I mean look up maps from before 1772 and compare them with map from 1936, one has to draw the line somewhere!
All in all in my opinion only Danzing were sore issue!
But this treaty brought Hitler to the top in the first place...without it he would just had stayed on the fringe of german politics where he belonged!
This treaty wasn't fair for Germany!
But border with Poland wasn't bad
I mean look up maps from before 1772 and compare them with map from 1936, one has to draw the line somewhere!
All in all in my opinion only Danzing were sore issue!
Ironside
5 May 2009
History / Poland and Ukraine [240]
Well, demands were made by Germany to country C...... rings any bells and when they agreed they were run over by Germany.
Dazing - fine , plebiscite - fine , evacuation by Polish authorities - no way, you could have observers,
Demobilise armies? What's about Hitlers plan to settle issues with France and Soviets?
I mean if it would have been proposition in good faith then it wasn't worth it!
But at the time there were no trust with good reasons.
Well, demands were made by Germany to country C...... rings any bells and when they agreed they were run over by Germany.
Dazing - fine , plebiscite - fine , evacuation by Polish authorities - no way, you could have observers,
Demobilise armies? What's about Hitlers plan to settle issues with France and Soviets?
I mean if it would have been proposition in good faith then it wasn't worth it!
But at the time there were no trust with good reasons.
Ironside
4 May 2009
History / Poland and Ukraine [240]
From 1939 to 1941 Soviets were your allies, don't you know?
Hey you lost me, are you asking IIww was good for Poland?
No, it wasn't ....
Well, you started the all thing.....
And here I thought they were your allies....
From 1939 to 1941 Soviets were your allies, don't you know?
Remember, it's not only the polish dead...many millions more, a devastated continent....all for some petty revenge and border changing...was it worth it?
Hey you lost me, are you asking IIww was good for Poland?
No, it wasn't ....
Well, you started the all thing.....
Ironside
4 May 2009
History / Poland and Ukraine [240]
Ah is that right?
And we fighted against you and Soviets one of the future superpower at the same time, after only 20years of the independent Poland.
So, losing is losing no matter what...
Well, whats wrong with border before the war? Could you elaborate?
We fighted against the biggest alliance the world has ever seen, it needed all of them and took them 6 years after Germany conquered nearly all of Europe.
Ah is that right?
And we fighted against you and Soviets one of the future superpower at the same time, after only 20years of the independent Poland.
So, losing is losing no matter what...
The case with the Germans in Poland after Versailles.
Well, whats wrong with border before the war? Could you elaborate?
Ironside
4 May 2009
History / Poland and Ukraine [240]
If you mean that brute force is stronger then morals and right I agree with you.
But if you mean that Germans are so wise then look who lost...
You Germans lost all the wars in the last centurys and You speaking about big mouth?
look up Hitler speeches
Poland would have been gobbled up by either one, so or so, being the marching ground of the Wehrmacht and the red Army! The polish mouth always bigger than anything else!
If you mean that brute force is stronger then morals and right I agree with you.
But if you mean that Germans are so wise then look who lost...
You Germans lost all the wars in the last centurys and You speaking about big mouth?
look up Hitler speeches
Ironside
4 May 2009
History / Poland and Ukraine [240]
Well, there were talks ..... Did Hitler asked for Poland to attack Soviets? All it just me...
any links?
For cleaning up the situation between us? Border adjustments, resettlements both of us could live with? Anything would had been better than antagonizing and mocking an angry, armed to the teeth neighbour, wouldn't it...
Well, there were talks ..... Did Hitler asked for Poland to attack Soviets? All it just me...
Puuuuleeeeeeze...read up about that!
any links?
Ironside
4 May 2009
History / Poland and Ukraine [240]
Thats no true they were protected by international treaty.
What uprisings? In silesian uprising in the first place there were majorty of the local population kin on joning Poland - with a little help of the friends.
anyways Germany supported ukrainian terrorist organizations and trained germans living in Poland to act as a support for German Army and to sabotage Polish defences.
I guess it's clean ....
As for talks - what about ?
Poland did anything to antagonize relationships and treated their "new" Germans they got because of the new borders badly.
Thats no true they were protected by international treaty.
Instead of financing and supporting "uprisings" Warsaw should have held talks with the Germans.
What uprisings? In silesian uprising in the first place there were majorty of the local population kin on joning Poland - with a little help of the friends.
anyways Germany supported ukrainian terrorist organizations and trained germans living in Poland to act as a support for German Army and to sabotage Polish defences.
I guess it's clean ....
As for talks - what about ?
Ironside
4 May 2009
History / Poland and Ukraine [240]
What do you mean?
And?
You better had talked with the Germans!
What do you mean?
Manipulated and supported by Warsaw!
And?