History / germany prepares for invasion of Poland [43]

It's also nice to remember their get together: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestapo-NKVD_Conferences

History / Who Was Really Behind the Shooting of John Paul II? [21]

One thing is certain. Agca`didn't know who really hired him. He is alive.

Oh, yeah, Harry, the the Jews did it for sure, you freak.

History / Col.Jozef Swiatlo-Secret agent, torturer, CIA-collaborator to be tried? [145]

What would they have said? I'm sure they knew they were trash, but unpricipled men make excuses and basicaly just look out for their own interest. They are easily bought.

History / Col.Jozef Swiatlo-Secret agent, torturer, CIA-collaborator to be tried? [145]

", they just had the party card because without it, life really sucked"

Exactly, life really sucked for 90% of the people. Yet, they didn't join. "Partyjny" in my circle was a badge of shame. Trust me, we had no friends who were in the Party; we just didn't associate with them. They were weak people who would turn to whichever the wind blew. They had no principles. They were the type who would snitch on their friends since the system required it. They were trash. I'll grant not all were nasty, but they were at the service of the enemy.

One thing you got right, though. Many people are finding out now that a close friend was writing reports on them. Watch "Trzech Kumpli" to see the reality of the totalitarian system.

History / Col.Jozef Swiatlo-Secret agent, torturer, CIA-collaborator to be tried? [145]

The derogarory phrase was not directed toward you.

Funny, all educated people I know here were not members of the Party. In fact, all less educated people I know were not either. The ones who were were shunned by us. I guess we come from different traditions.

You know, many people gave their life for our country. We owe it to them to stay true to the cause of free Poland. Subservience for material gain is immoral.

Gestapo, NKVD, UB, same animal, different color. The likes of Światło, Różański, Berman were beasts like Spilker or Hahn. Do not apologize for torturers.

History / Who Was Really Behind the Shooting of John Paul II? [21]

Good one, Frank.

There was also an another attempt on his life. The recent film "Świadectwo" had footage of it. It was a priest who knifed JPII.

History / Col.Jozef Swiatlo-Secret agent, torturer, CIA-collaborator to be tried? [145]

Please. We can also excuse Gestapo agents as they also had to survive.

Did they have to torture AK soldiers to put bread on their table? Did Wisława Szymborska, the celebrated Nobel winnner(sic), have to write poems exalting Stalin? Raz kurwa...

History / Col.Jozef Swiatlo-Secret agent, torturer, CIA-collaborator to be tried? [145]

No, that's not all there is to it. There is more. The elimination of intelligensia by the Germans and the Soviets caused a vaccum in who can actually do the serious work. The promotion of imbeciles into the upper spheres was detrimental to the nation. Of course, it wasn't real economy, as most of the products went east to the Soviet masters, but you had to staff positions with intelligent people, and who were they? They were the 90% of population who didn't join the Communists. You, and others like you, wanted more. A better flat, privilages, separate stores... Scum, like I said. It is shameful that we can't put people like that on trial now.

Even Wałęsa? It is well documented he was a commie stooge and played his part well in the smooth transition from communist rule.

History / Col.Jozef Swiatlo-Secret agent, torturer, CIA-collaborator to be tried? [145]

I'm not misguided at all. People joined the Party and the Stalinist regime because they were scum. They were traitors, nothing else. Real Poles were regularly tried, imprisoned, and executed by the likes of Światło, et al.

The communists had a grip? What percentage of the population joined them? Do answer.

History / germany prepares for invasion of Poland [43]

McCoy,

Thanks for including pics of the happy meeting between NKVD and Werhmacht in Brześć on 22 September 1939. Patrycja probably thought the Soviets were allies too. Education continues.

History / Col.Jozef Swiatlo-Secret agent, torturer, CIA-collaborator to be tried? [145]

The scum died last year.

It is sickening to read some of you lefties talk among yourselves. Perhaps you have no idea what MBP was, and then you should educate yourselves. This piece of human garbage was the worst of the Holocaust "survivors" we had. Oh, BTW, 37% of MBP cadre was Jewish.

Also, no one was forced to sign up for the Communist regime, lest to survive. What bullshit.

Genealogy / spelling Kotylak right [3]

There are 271 Poles with this name. Probably more.
moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/kotylak.html

News / Polish-Hungarian friendship - reality till today or just a phantasmagoria [144]

Try this link:

youtube.com/watch?v=_YJVO6jPaR0

News / Helena Wolinska dead [90]

Speaking of enemy collaborators, some of you might be interested in these two discussions:

forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=146142&start=30

forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=144090&start=0

I'm a new member so I can't post hot links.

News / Helena Wolinska dead [90]

From Chicago Tribune:

"After communism’s collapse, Poland’s new leaders quickly rehabilitated thereputations of heroes such as Fieldorf. They also began going through thefiles and building criminal cases against those responsible for the worst ofthe Stalin-era crimes. In 1999 the Polish government asked for Wolinska-Brus’extradition.

She replied with disdain: The charges were “idiotic,” she said, and Poland was a “despicable” country.
“If they don’t like you, they accuse you of being an ex-communist and a Jew,” she told The Jewish Chronicle, a prominent British publication. She vowed to never return to “the land of Auschwitz and Birkenau.”

But while anti-Semitism is a touchy issue in Poland, “she is being asked about her responsibility for the death of a very important Polish hero, and that has nothing to do with being Jewish,” said Rafal Wnuk, a Polish historian and expert on the Stalin era.

One prominent Pole who feels strongly that Wolinska-Brus should stand trial is Wladyslaw Bartoszewski, a former foreign minister, former Auschwitz inmateand now a special foreign policy adviser to new Prime Minister Donald Tusk.

Bartoszewski, 82, also served in the Home Army, where he helped organize Zegota, the Council for Aid to Jews."

The British record if often dishonorable. Sweden is also giving shelter to a Stalinist prosecutor: Adam Michnik's brother, Stefan. Shame.