Return PolishForums LIVE
  PolishForums Archive :
Archives - 2005-2009 / News  % width 90

Helena Wolinska dead


1jola 14 | 1,879  
28 Nov 2008 /  #1
Good news. Helena Wolinska finally died in England.

Helena Wolińska-Brus (born 1919 as Fajga Mindla Danielak died 2008) was a former military prosecutor from Poland, involved in Stalinist regime show trials of the 1950s.

Seanus 15 | 19,706  
28 Nov 2008 /  #2
Who on earth was she?
osiol 55 | 3,922  
28 Nov 2008 /  #3
Odd how "advanced age" and it being "a long time ago" can be used as excuses.
Odd? Or sickening?

Who on earth was she?

Copy the link and pop an h at the beginning.

Pal of Stalin's apparently.

I will, however add, that saying this is good news is the wrong way to look at it. She should have been tried for what she did. She lived the rest of her life in legal-immunity if I believe correctly. Death is not a punishment in such circumstances. Death comes to us all eventually.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
28 Nov 2008 /  #4
Good riddance then!! I'm not one of those people who believe that we shouldn't speak ill of the dead, although I tend not to do it as a matter of course.
Bzibzioh  
28 Nov 2008 /  #5
Who on earth was she?

Piece of worst human scum ever existed.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
28 Nov 2008 /  #6
Sorry, I'm too lazy to research it. Was she Polish or Russian?
osiol 55 | 3,922  
28 Nov 2008 /  #7
Polish-born Jewish or something like that. I'm sure some people will have their typical field day with this.
tornado2007 11 | 2,274  
28 Nov 2008 /  #8
what the heck did she do?? whats all the noise about??
Bzibzioh  
28 Nov 2008 /  #9
"Among other crimes, she is alleged of organising the unlawful arrest of, and aiding investigation and trial against, Poland's wartime hero general Emil August Fieldorf, a legendary commander of the Polish underground Polish Home Army during WW II. Emil August Fieldorf was executed on February 24, 1953. Communist authorities concluded already in a 1956 report that Wolińska had violated the rule of law by her involvement in biased investigations and trials that frequently resulted in executions."

Alleged cos she never stud a trial of her own for that crime.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
28 Nov 2008 /  #10
Another dubiously compiled quote. Alleged to have organised seems more correct
Bzibzioh  
28 Nov 2008 /  #11
Yeah, Seanus, lets analyze quality of translation here. Purity of Queen’s English over all! The hell with merit.
scorpio 20 | 188  
28 Nov 2008 /  #12
Good news. Helena Wolinska finally died in England.

That is good news. I don't have any sympathy for a devious Communist like herself. She murdered, tortured, and imprisoned countless innocent Polish Catholics.
Sasha 2 | 1,083  
28 Nov 2008 /  #13
Why wasn't she tried in England?
RubasznyRumcajs 5 | 488  
28 Nov 2008 /  #14
well....
shame on britain- because she (i.e. hw) wasnt expelled.

@scorpio:
no, its not a good news. she shouldnt die as 'free' human- she should be arrested and jailed.
btw, ".... innocent Polish Catholics" - so, if she would murder, tortur and imprisoning Polish Protestants or Polish Orthodox or Polish Atheists etc- would it do a difference?
Daisy 3 | 1,227  
29 Nov 2008 /  #15
Odd how "advanced age" and it being "a long time ago" can be used as excuses.
Odd? Or sickening?

just plain wrong, she never allowed her victims the luxury of dieing from old age
Filios1 8 | 1,336  
29 Nov 2008 /  #16
The witch is finally dead... but obviously she did not deserve to die naturally.

I hope she rots in hell for her crimes....I still cannot believe why England did not deport her back to Poland, where we would have put her on trial, and in prison for the last years of her miserable life.

Despite her involvement in Stalinist-era crimes she called to forget that period in her life and, in her own words, "not to disrupt her with this silly prosecution"

What a disgusting human being...

RIP Emil Fieldorf. You were a true hero, and never deserved such a horrible fate for your sacrifices.
Daisy 3 | 1,227  
29 Nov 2008 /  #17
I still cannot believe why England did not deport her back to Poland

Probably had friends in the right places, same as Pinochet
OP 1jola 14 | 1,879  
29 Nov 2008 /  #18
From Chicago Tribune:

"After communism’s collapse, Poland’s new leaders quickly rehabilitated thereputations of heroes such as Fieldorf. They also began going through thefiles and building criminal cases against those responsible for the worst ofthe Stalin-era crimes. In 1999 the Polish government asked for Wolinska-Brus’extradition.

She replied with disdain: The charges were “idiotic,” she said, and Poland was a “despicable” country.
“If they don’t like you, they accuse you of being an ex-communist and a Jew,” she told The Jewish Chronicle, a prominent British publication. She vowed to never return to “the land of Auschwitz and Birkenau.”

But while anti-Semitism is a touchy issue in Poland, “she is being asked about her responsibility for the death of a very important Polish hero, and that has nothing to do with being Jewish,” said Rafal Wnuk, a Polish historian and expert on the Stalin era.

One prominent Pole who feels strongly that Wolinska-Brus should stand trial is Wladyslaw Bartoszewski, a former foreign minister, former Auschwitz inmateand now a special foreign policy adviser to new Prime Minister Donald Tusk.

Bartoszewski, 82, also served in the Home Army, where he helped organize Zegota, the Council for Aid to Jews."


The British record if often dishonorable. Sweden is also giving shelter to a Stalinist prosecutor: Adam Michnik's brother, Stefan. Shame.
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446  
29 Nov 2008 /  #19
Helen Wolińska (real name: Fajga Mindla) has died at 89 in Britain where she had been a political fugitive for many years. A Stalinist military prosecutor, she was instrumental in the jailing, torture and death of Polish freedom-fighters, including Gen. August Emil Fieldorf. The Jewish communist held many other important posts in the former Soviet-backed regime until the ruling communist party udner Władysław Gomułka staged an anti-Semitic purge in 1968. Despite numerous Polish requests, the Brits had refused to extradite Wolińska to stand trial as a Stalinist criminal in Poland.
Wroclaw 44 | 5,384  
29 Nov 2008 /  #20
Polonius3,

This is yet another of you copy postings. Please, don't keep posting topics that we have already discussed.
osiol 55 | 3,922  
29 Nov 2008 /  #21
Username:
Polonius3
Member Since:
Apr 11, 08
Last Post:
Today, 05:59

Threads:
200
Posts:
685
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446  
29 Nov 2008 /  #22
Mea maxima culpa! A cursory glance seemed to indicate the topic hadn't been raised. Only proves that haste makes waste!
celinski 31 | 1,258  
29 Nov 2008 /  #23
Despite numerous Polish requests, the Brits had refused to extradite Wolińska to stand trial as a Stalinist criminal in Poland.

It is rather sad that justice was not carried out. Thanks for the update.
miranda  
29 Nov 2008 /  #24
A cursory glance seemed to indicate the topic hadn't been raised.

https://polishforums.com/archives/2005-2009/news/helena-wolinska-dead-30222/

what about this?

Only proves that haste makes waste!

you are very correct on that one.

People have told you before that you repeat the topics and you still do it.

Don't you read replies? What is the purpose of some of your threads?

You actually behave like a troll.
Puzzler comes to mind
Prince 15 | 590  
29 Nov 2008 /  #25
It is fact that it is not possible to catch communist criminals with Jewish origin, There is no problem if they had other than this origin...

Helena Wolinska has murdered leader of Polish anti-Nazi resistance.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_August_Fieldorf
miranda  
29 Nov 2008 /  #26
I wonder if there were other people who escaped like her.

Does anybody know?
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161  
29 Nov 2008 /  #27
Helena Wolinska finally died

Good. Too bad Gerries didn't put that s*it to the ovens.

Why wasn't she tried in England?

Because she was one of the chosen.

I wonder if there were other people who escaped like her.

Many. For example Shlomo Morel. Some other s*it like Bielski bros are made heroes now.
Prince 15 | 590  
29 Nov 2008 /  #28
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salomon_Morel
wildrover 98 | 4,451  
29 Nov 2008 /  #29
Please, don't keep posting topics that we have already discussed.

Perhaps he is hoping that people may think his posting was the first and that he does have some original thoughts and idea.s not likely , but what else can he do...?
jonni 16 | 2,485  
29 Nov 2008 /  #30
Remember, Celinski, that you posted about her, saying she had been extradited to Poland? I wondered where you got that from, now it's clear - nowhere!

It's sad that people like Pani Wolinska, who committed crimes are able to get away scot-free, but there comes a time when a line must be drawn under the past, so life can go forward.

Archives - 2005-2009 / News / Helena Wolinska deadArchived