mkpolka
17 May 2009
UK, Ireland / Poles claim UK benefits after working only one year instead of going home [156]
Mister H
You sure come accross as hostile. Maybe you might need to think how you frase your sentences if you do not wish to come accross as so.
On the subject:
Benefits claims system is well suited for abuse. i am saying so as a polish person having lived there for 7 years. I always worked, paid taxes and I must add : have never claimed any benefits, although my daughter have been treated in English hospital. For which I am thankful as she got fantastic care. Th fact that my husband is English should not have been an issue in this matter as the impotrant thing was a sick little girl that needed care. NHS is one of the things that Britain should be really proud of. Having said that my daughter got sick when we were in Poland. We had to pay for hospitalisation as i have not been working there and contributing to the system. All have been covered by insurance paid by myself before we left. It brings me to the issue of what is fair. I have been working and contributing to UK system for 5 years (not the Polish one - hence my benefits would have been declined). In England, if my doughter or myself get sick we should be able to get the help. On the other side if my husband moves into Poland with us, is there a reason why he should not be entitled to heath or any other care over there( after let's say a year), after he worked and paid his dues?? From what i understand there are plenty of English people living and working abroad, not only in Europe.
We live in Australia now and i do see large influx of Enlish ex-pats, having sold their english properties for a lot, coming here and buying regular Australians out of the market. After 3 years they can apply for Australian citizenship and claim all the benefits they want. Without ""having to pay taxes"" for 20 yrs or contributing in the past in any shape or form. Some would say that might be unfair.
What we all have to understand is that it is an open world, people move and make a living where they can. As long as they obey the law, pay taxes and raise their children properly it shouldn`t matter where they from.
The entitlement to 3 bedroom house with nice garden and a nice car is not only for the British to have. We all should be allowed to strife for it if choose to do so.
PS Mister H's use of "strawberry pickers & toilet cleaners"" expressions i find very offensive. I would like to know whether Mister H, having been made(hipoteticaly) to leave Englang and move to, let`s say Brazil, would be able to get a banking job straight away or reverse to strawberry picking or toilet cleaning??
Mister H
You sure come accross as hostile. Maybe you might need to think how you frase your sentences if you do not wish to come accross as so.
On the subject:
Benefits claims system is well suited for abuse. i am saying so as a polish person having lived there for 7 years. I always worked, paid taxes and I must add : have never claimed any benefits, although my daughter have been treated in English hospital. For which I am thankful as she got fantastic care. Th fact that my husband is English should not have been an issue in this matter as the impotrant thing was a sick little girl that needed care. NHS is one of the things that Britain should be really proud of. Having said that my daughter got sick when we were in Poland. We had to pay for hospitalisation as i have not been working there and contributing to the system. All have been covered by insurance paid by myself before we left. It brings me to the issue of what is fair. I have been working and contributing to UK system for 5 years (not the Polish one - hence my benefits would have been declined). In England, if my doughter or myself get sick we should be able to get the help. On the other side if my husband moves into Poland with us, is there a reason why he should not be entitled to heath or any other care over there( after let's say a year), after he worked and paid his dues?? From what i understand there are plenty of English people living and working abroad, not only in Europe.
We live in Australia now and i do see large influx of Enlish ex-pats, having sold their english properties for a lot, coming here and buying regular Australians out of the market. After 3 years they can apply for Australian citizenship and claim all the benefits they want. Without ""having to pay taxes"" for 20 yrs or contributing in the past in any shape or form. Some would say that might be unfair.
What we all have to understand is that it is an open world, people move and make a living where they can. As long as they obey the law, pay taxes and raise their children properly it shouldn`t matter where they from.
The entitlement to 3 bedroom house with nice garden and a nice car is not only for the British to have. We all should be allowed to strife for it if choose to do so.
PS Mister H's use of "strawberry pickers & toilet cleaners"" expressions i find very offensive. I would like to know whether Mister H, having been made(hipoteticaly) to leave Englang and move to, let`s say Brazil, would be able to get a banking job straight away or reverse to strawberry picking or toilet cleaning??