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Joined: 26 May 2008 / Male ♂
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Speaks Polish?: not quite yet...
Interests: Math, history, science, economics, & hockey

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Babinich   
8 Jan 2009
Food / What is your favourite Polish meal?! [64]

Yeah, it would appear so but I am conditioned by having eaten this type of food for quite some time.

Chasing the meal with hot cinnamon rice milk is comforting too.
Babinich   
11 Jan 2009
History / Targowice and Bar Confederations [34]

Bar Confederacy was organized by patriotic Poles against Russian domination in Poland, among others. Took place 1768-1772. Was one of the pretexts for Russia, Austria and Prussia to divide Poland in the first partition.

Shortly speaking, Targowica was organized by pro-Russian Poles who decided to turn against their Polish King and abolish the reforms which were to strengthen the country at the end of 18 century. Russians invaded, the King gave up after a short campaign and surrendered the army. Poland experienced the 3rd partition and vanished from the map of Europe for 123 years.

This is how I pretty much remember it. One key fact I'd like to point out is that Frederick (Prussia) exploited this situation greatly by giving council to Catherine (Russia).
Babinich   
13 Jan 2009
News / What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others? [1108]

What if Churchill had kept to his word, stood up to Stalin and demanded Polish sovereignty? Would it have changed anything? No.

Maybe... Depending on when the confrontation occurred and if Roosevelt backed Churchill.

So if Poland's woes were not caused by this political betrayal, it's hardly worth placing such importance on it. What if Churchill had the political might to put operation unthinkable in to action? Would I have wanted my grandparents to fight The Red Army in a potentially brutal war to free Poland.

The prospect of fighting against the SU would not exist, because the SU would not exist if not for Lloyd George.

Be that as it may, there would be no fight with the SU if the British and Americans were united in facing down Uncle Joe in 1943 because the Wehrmacht was hardly beaten in 1943.
Babinich   
13 Jan 2009
News / What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others? [1108]

From what I have read on Yalta, it would appear that any such attempts to impose allied will on Stalin, were made by Churchill and dismissed by Roosevelt.

I am specifically targeting Tehran in late November of 1943. It was at this conference where Stalin pushed for the the borders of post-war Poland to be set along the Oder and Neisse rivers and the Curzon line.

What if Churchill and Roosevelt made their promise of a second front in Western Europe conditional? Conditional on Polish sovereignty?

Why was Roosevelt so eager to placate Stalin?

Roosevelt was intent on reshaping the post-war world around the creation of new nation-states from the remains of the old colonial empires. Roosevelt felt that Stalin might serve as a key ally in his attempt finish off the old colonial system.

The latter point can be viewed as a slight at Churchill who in all likelihood wished to restore some form of a British Empire.
Babinich   
14 Jan 2009
News / What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others? [1108]

As an aside it does make one wonder which faction would want to see Sikorski dead

In April 1943, General Sikorski turned down the Soviet demand that Poland withdraw their plea to have the Red Cross investigate Katyn. Anthony Eden (Foreign Secretary) refused to help and the Soviet Union broke diplomatic relations with Poland on the following day, on the basis that the Polish government was in league with Nazi Germany. Despite the Polish requests for help, the United States and the United Kingdom decided not to put pressure on the USSR.

Emphasis mine... Quite a tell in my book.

I have no problem with the fact that General Sikorski proposed the Oder and Neisse line in the west. The problem is that both Roosevelt and Churchill officially agreed that the eastern borders of Poland would roughly follow the Curzon Line. The Polish government was not notified of this decision (leading to an approximate loss of 48% of Poland's pre-war territory). Very little information was given about the Tehran conference. One of the gems was this was the press release: We await the day, when all nations of the world will live peacefully, free of tyranny, according to their national needs and conscience. This press release pointed to the principals outlined in the Atlantic Charter.

The principals of the Atlantic Charter were adopted by a number of nations including the SU in September of 1941. Both Roosevelt and Churchill had little interest in holding Stalin to the Atlantic Charter.

Thus the Atlantic Charter was not worth the paper it was written on and proved, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that both Roosevelt and Churchill could not be taken at their word.
Babinich   
14 Jan 2009
History / Poland Betrayed in WW2 [243]

The two countries fought together against Russia. Then in 1921, after the war was won, Poland made a seperate peace with Russia (despite the treaty clearly forbidding that) and seized the western half of Ukraine (the eastern half went to Russia).

Lets talk facts shall we?

The unfortunate matter was that Piłsudski felt the Riga agreement was a disaster. The Riga treaty was negotiated by Jan Dąbski (Poles). By 1921, Piłsudski was only an observer during the Riga negotiations, which he called an act of cowardice. Allegedly, after he left the conference room, he told the waiting Ukrainians: Gentlemen, I deeply apologize to you.

There were many Poles who fought and died along side of the Ukrainians that honored the Petlura-Piłsudski Alliance.

A reminder of the topic: Poland Betrayed in WW2
Babinich   
14 Jan 2009
News / What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others? [1108]

It seems as if the quotes are being associated with the wrong folks.

But I personally do not see how Sikorski or his government's position re a Red Cross investigation of Katyn would mean Sikorski was a target of some USSR, USA or British sponsored assasination conspiracy?

sjam,

All I am saying is that Poland, being one of the allies, was left out of many discussions. I am not implying in any way that any of the Big Three had designs on assassinating Sikorski.

My key points:

* The Atlantic Charter was not worth the paper it was written on.
* The word of Churchill & Roosevelt meant nothing.

Can the US be blamed? Possibly, but what did they owe Poland?

The obligation of honoring the Atlantic Charter.
Babinich   
14 Jan 2009
News / What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others? [1108]

Yet the European powers were allowed to keep their colonies, as were the USSR. The Atlantic Charter therefore did not constitute a US obligation to Poland.

The Atlantic Charter singled out no particular nation as being special. FDR laid out his determination to shape a post-war world free of colonialism, poverty and illiteracy. This means that FDR wanted to eliminate backward colonial policy. Can you guess who was in the cross hairs?
Babinich   
31 Jan 2009
News / Peculiar opinions about Poland [33]

You are wrong. It is because USA has poor education system

Sorry but the lack of educational excellence in American stems from parental indifference and laziness.
Babinich   
9 Feb 2009
News / Polish engineer beheaded in Pakistan. [347]

You all felt for your Polish countryman right? If it was upto you, you would take the honor of beheading them and playing football with their heads.
You feel angry and frustrated over his killing although noone here claims to know him personally.

I, according to some on this board, happen to be a plastic Pole. What I feel is sadness because a son is deprived a father.

What I want is justice.
Babinich   
15 Feb 2009
History / Any apologies about Sikorski's 'murder'? [95]

I think you should have said that both Churchill and Roosevelt could not face up to Stalin...

HWPiel,

I think both Churchill and Roosevelt would not face up to Stalin... Stalin bluffed them, outsmarted them, tricked them, you pick the verb.
Babinich   
15 Feb 2009
Language / agresywne/agresywnym; Confused about when to use nominative and instrumental [3]

Martin,

I too am learning the language. My initial take is that the ending of the adjective must correspond to the gender of the noun it is modifying. Dziecko is neuter; that is why I believe you see the neuter endings on the adjectives. As for the case, I see nie. For me, the Genitive case spring to mind.
Babinich   
22 Feb 2009
News / Forget Ukraine! The question is: " Is Poland going down??" [36]

I'm not here to give free exposes on the dynamics of the financial system.

Your experience in the world of finance makes your opinion matter more than most. So, you do have an opinion; care to share it?
Babinich   
22 Feb 2009
News / Forget Ukraine! The question is: " Is Poland going down??" [36]

The country lost billions whilst the corporations themselves reaped the benefits.

Is it your opinion that 'Laissez-faire Capitalism' practiced by America caused the world wide downturn we see today?
Babinich   
22 Feb 2009
News / Forget Ukraine! The question is: " Is Poland going down??" [36]

As you are no doubt aware, it is the gross mismanagement of banks that have been the primary cause of the crisis.

This "gross mismanagement" you speak of, did government play a part in any of this?
Babinich   
23 Feb 2009
News / Forget Ukraine! The question is: " Is Poland going down??" [36]

The hoverers have swooped, Babinich. The FED will never put its hands up. The Bank of England either. It's an inadvertent redistribution of wealth.

I go with leverage, MBS obfuscation, and tragic government policy as the causes.

realclearmarkets.com/articles/2009/02/the_sec_killed_wall_street_on.html
spectator.org/archives/2009/02/06/the-true-origins-of-this-finan

I have no problems with secularization of anything as long as proper risk analysis is conducted by all parties especially the rating agencies.

It's an inadvertent redistribution of wealth.

Welcome to America... America is about wealth redistribution and not about wealth creation. After all, if you create a dependency you've secured your voting base.

I think that Babinich is pulling your leg to see how much general knowledge he can pull out of you. I think is knows about the US crisis;),

Miranda, you're one smart cookie. Welcome back...:')
Babinich   
23 Feb 2009
USA, Canada / Why are Poles still comming to the US and staying illegally? [27]

If my husband, who married a born-American citizen (bona fide), had such a hard time getting a work permit and green card then how do these illegal immigrants think they're going to get it?

There is a great deal of hope that Obama changes things to make it easier for Poles to become citizens of the US.

archives.chicagotribune.com/2009/jan/18/magazine/chi-mxa0118magazinepolespg8-14jan18
Babinich   
28 Feb 2009
History / Why communism failed in Poland? [275]

Was it due to leaders' incompetence,or...?

It is because Communism butts up against human nature.
Babinich   
3 Apr 2009
History / Russia to outlaw criticism of WWII tactics [57]

approach to the seelow heights.........

Well, using spotlights to signal your approach in addition to blinding the yourself because of the reflection due to the dust cover didn't help.

It also worked against Soviets that the Germans were heavily armed and firing from the high ground.
Babinich   
6 Apr 2009
News / Poland. Sold for nothing. [341]

Yes, because the British could have done so much to prevent Poland from being occupied by the Nazis and Soviets in 1939, couldn't they?

The British could have done much to prevent the SU from taking over Poland. Let's start with David Lloyd George, the English prime minister, who decided to lift the Royal Navy's blockade of Russia just as the Civil War seemed to be turning against the Reds. This act enabled the looting Soviets an outlet to sell their booty on the black market.

This enabled Lenin and his boys catch their second wind.
Babinich   
20 Apr 2009
USA, Canada / HOLY SATURDAY FOOD BELSSING IN YOUR AREA? [13]

What's your connection (if any) to East Chicago?

EastChicago is where my my father's side of the family settled to after immigrating from the old country.

I remember taking the South Shore to my grandmother's sister's house when I was small.
Babinich   
29 Apr 2009
News / Poland to ban Che Guevara image [55]

Beside of that such T-shirts are not that bad. When I spot such person I already know that an idiot is walking in front of me. You are immediately informed who you may deal with . If this is your employee then you already know who do you need to get rid during the first opportunity.

Bingo...

I am in total agreement with McCoy's assessment of Che Guevara but there is no better way of identifying an idiot than one that self advertises.